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Most inhuman True Final Boss criteria?

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Which TLB conditions do you consider the most insane in all of shmups? I'd probably have to go with every single CAVE game ever made, Border Down, and Raiden Fighters Jet. Typically TLB criteria tends to be the bane of all shmups.
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Giga Wing TLB.

Also, Dangun Feveron.
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CCWI, becouse there is no criteria, it's there no matter what, to fuck my shit up.
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copy-paster wrote:Giga Wing TLB.
This only requires a 1CC to trigger. It's tough as there's no extends (if you're playing well) but it's not that bad compared to Dangun Feveron and Mushihimesama Futari BL God Mode (both require a no miss of the game).

Ketsui or Daifukkatsu probably qualify - entering the secret loop on Ketsui takes a no miss and has a minimum point requirement.
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expert inbachi
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Reaching Inbachi is probably the most insane in all of CAVE. How about reaching the true final boss of Strania, though?
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if we're counting inbachi, then that
if not, then sdoj hibachi on expert
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XIIstag and X-Multiply have the best in-human bosses.
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I'm not talking about games that have the hardest bosses. I meant games with the hardest TLB criteria.
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xxx1993 wrote:I'm not talking about games that have the hardest bosses. I meant games with the hardest TLB criteria.
Expert Inbachi meets both of those criteria.
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What are the Inbachi requirements? Isn't it something ridiculous like all bees collected, rank maxed out, no miss no bomb, etc?
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Yeah that's pretty much how it is - no miss no bomb, all bees, high rank. I don't think the rank has to be quite maxed out, but it does need to be pretty high. On the bright side, it's incredibly unlikely that you'll accidentally trigger Inbachi and lose your game that way. :wink:

I actually can't think of many games with special TLB requirements (i.e. more complex than 1CC'ing the game) besides CAVE games.
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Off topic (sorry sorry :oops: ): was Inbachi ever defeated without cheats? i mean 100% confirmed 'no cheats'.
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No, that one run on YouTube is the closest thing we have. I don't think many people have even reached Inbachi.
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Feel like you can't fight Inbachi unless you play the game's Xbox 360 Mode.
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Bloody Jitterbug in DS MBL is also a serious pain in the ass to trigger.
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Deadliar wrote:XIIstag and X-Multiply have the best in-human bosses.
RayForce and RayCrisis have the best con-human bosses.
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Kiken wrote:Bloody Jitterbug in DS MBL is also a serious pain in the ass to trigger.
What's the criteria for Pigeon Blood Jitterbug in DeathSmiles IIX anyway?
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xxx1993 wrote:What's the criteria for Pigeon Blood Jitterbug in DeathSmiles IIX anyway?
IIRC, play every level at max rank and kill every boss while in hyper mode.
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Gotcha.
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Shepardus wrote:No, that one run on YouTube is the closest thing we have. I don't think many people have even reached Inbachi.
I did some digging and found that that particular player uploaded at least two Inbachi videos on his nicovideo account.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22740646
This video shows him no missing Inbachi's first form in training mode.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21012682
This video shows him beating Inbachi with Saya and it seems to have been uploaded before his run on youtube. I used shitty google translate on this video's description to get
"Your own aircraft is too strong to defeat even if you do it properly". If anyone knows Japanese, could we get a more accurate translation? Does this mean he did not "do it properly"?
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The only correct answers are TLBs that are as easy as possible to trigger, so that they are always there to end your run.
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pat777b wrote: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21012682
This video shows him beating Inbachi with Saya and it seems to have been uploaded before his run on youtube. I used shitty google translate on this video's description to get
"Your own aircraft is too strong to defeat even if you do it properly". If anyone knows Japanese, could we get a more accurate translation? Does this mean he did not "do it properly"?
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From what I've seen/read, Inbachi seems like the textbook example of "diminishing returns." You can only make a boss's requirements so anal, and the boss itself so hard, before the curve of enjoyment starts swinging back down.

Not that a scrub like me ever has to worry about getting to that point. 8)
Despatche wrote:The only correct answers are TLBs that are as easy as possible to trigger, so that they are always there to end your run.
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Ha ha, not a bad point. To that, I submit Gun Frontier's "die and it's instant game over" final boss, regardless of your lives in stock! Better not miss either, you have six chances to hit.
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Despatche wrote:The only correct answers are TLBs that are as easy as possible to trigger, so that they are always there to end your run.
Agree. Always go out of my way to avoid Shin Seseri. If I forget to suicide I might as well start over.
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EmperorIng wrote:Ha ha, not a bad point. To that, I submit Gun Frontier's "die and it's instant game over" final boss, regardless of your lives in stock! Better not miss either, you have six chances to hit.
I just played Strania lately. The final boss is just like in Gun Frontier. Die there and you automatically lose. You have to defeat Yosemite using hit-and-run attacks.
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xxx1993 wrote:
EmperorIng wrote:Ha ha, not a bad point. To that, I submit Gun Frontier's "die and it's instant game over" final boss, regardless of your lives in stock! Better not miss either, you have six chances to hit.
I just played Strania lately. The final boss is just like in Gun Frontier. Die there and you automatically lose. You have to defeat Yosemite using hit-and-run attacks.
Except that the topic is referring to Inhuman TFB/TLB criteria, since Strania doesn't count, since you have to play on Hard/Expert to play the final stage, lol. (Though probably playing on Expert difficulty would be an inhuman feat, lol.)

But anyways, since I play much Strania in my freetime, yeah, you, only get one shot in the final stages, lose it and its back to the beginning. In the blue side in a chance of crossed swords, and in the red side for a duel of bullet dancing.
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Wait, how do you do Hyper Mode in DeathSmiles IIX anyway?
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xxx1993 wrote:Wait, how do you do Hyper Mode in DeathSmiles IIX anyway?
Should be X button by default, but IIRC, I thought triggering PBJ (lol), was done by using the lock-on shot (by defeating all bosses with it), which ironically is mapped to the same button, lol.
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I’ll have to remember that next year.
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