XRGB-mini Framemeister

[Zappyraccoon]

Would this do the trick? I am thinking about purchasing this, even though my Framemeister has been working fine in the wall socket. http://www.amazon.com/VCT-VT-500J-Japan ... CT+VT-500J

[Fudoh]

With switching PSUs that's really not neccessary and doesn't make a difference. With classic coil PSUs it would make a (tiny) difference, but I'm using 2:1 stepdown converters (230/240V to 115/120V) for 20 years now with all my import stuff. No problems whatsoever.

[ZellSF]

but the current (voltage) isn't the power (amperage). If your current doesn't match the unit, you'll fry your machine.

A PSP PSU is probably too weak.

As I said on last page, a 1000/2000 PSU is 0.3A short, a 3000 PSU is 0.8A short. I wouldn't use either, but I'm guessing it works for the guy who mentioned it in the first place?

Why would you use a power supply from a different device? Couldn't you just buy one of these voltage transformers?

Not who you were talking to, but I don't like using voltage transformers when there's native (?) power supplies available.

[RGB32E]

I live in the US. I get 120V from the wall. If I plug a 100V gadget into a 120V outlet, it will work for a while, but I'm not sure what will happen to a XRGB Mini in the long term.

I haven't had an issue with using the XRGB-3 power supply on 120VAC for several years. Nor have I noticed any issues with the mini's AC adapter on 120VAC either. So, it's really a non issue. The bigger issue is whether or not the capacitors go bad in the power supply. Micomsoft sells a replacement AC adapter for the XRGB-3, and sent replacements to owners in Japan. However, my XRGB-3 never stopped working, and I haven't tried openening the AC adapter to check. I'd imagine this type of issue won't happen with the mini, but it's not related to using 120VAC on a 100VAC adapter.

[eightbitminiboss]

The wiki I posted earlier had a link to this power supply. I ordered it earlier this week and should have it today.

The output is switchable to 5V and just about covers the Mini's amperage requirement. It also has the right size tip for it.

[Smashbro29]

I live in the US. I get 120V from the wall. If I plug a 100V gadget into a 120V outlet, it will work for a while, but I'm not sure what will happen to a XRGB Mini in the long term.

I haven't had an issue with using the XRGB-3 power supply on 120VAC for several years. Nor have I noticed any issues with the mini's AC adapter on 120VAC either. So, it's really a non issue. The bigger issue is whether or not the capacitors go bad in the power supply. Micomsoft sells a replacement AC adapter for the XRGB-3, and sent replacements to owners in Japan. However, my XRGB-3 never stopped working, and I haven't tried openening the AC adapter to check. I'd imagine this type of issue won't happen with the mini, but it's not related to using 120VAC on a 100VAC adapter.

Awesome. Something I won't have to convert six ways from Sunday.

[NWrain]

I live in the US. I get 120V from the wall. If I plug a 100V gadget into a 120V outlet, it will work for a while, but I'm not sure what will happen to a XRGB Mini in the long term.

I haven't had an issue with using the XRGB-3 power supply on 120VAC for several years. Nor have I noticed any issues with the mini's AC adapter on 120VAC either. So, it's really a non issue. The bigger issue is whether or not the capacitors go bad in the power supply. Micomsoft sells a replacement AC adapter for the XRGB-3, and sent replacements to owners in Japan. However, my XRGB-3 never stopped working, and I haven't tried openening the AC adapter to check. I'd imagine this type of issue won't happen with the mini, but it's not related to using 120VAC on a 100VAC adapter.

I received my XRGB mini today, and I plugged it in with the stock power adapter. It works, so I won't worry about that anymore.

I haven't read the entire thread yet, but some have called the component input on the mini bad. I have been pretty impressed with the component input so far. I can't see much difference between the RGB input and Component processing for 240P. I just plugged everything in, scaled to 1080P, and these were my results.

Apologies for the poor photos.

Sega Saturn->XRGB Mini->RGB Input->1080P


Sega Saturn->Sync Strike->Kramer FC-14 transcoder->Component->1080P


I can't believe I messed around with FLI-2200 scalers for as long as I did.

If someone could tell me how to eliminate the black borders around the screen I would appreciate it.

[Fudoh]

If someone could tell me how to eliminate the black borders around the screen I would appreciate it.

The resizing options are very buggy and you can't use scanlines if you resize the picture.

[jaxmazon]

Here's how to get the best PS2 image quality without losing any compatibility and make it all hassle free

here you go:

Step 1 - Buy this

PS1/2/3 RGB cable - good brand besides the original is Snakebyte
Arcadeforge Sync Strike - to get clean sync when using a 15khz signal.
Extron RGB Interface to convert RGsB in 31khz mode to RGBs for the Mini, e.g. a 190 xi.

Step 2 - Connect it here

PS2 > (RGB) > Sync Strike > (VGA cable) > Extron interface > (VGA to MiniDin cable) > XRGB Mini

Step 4 - Set your PS2 to this mode

set the PS2 to RGB. This will output RGBs in 15khz mode and RGsB (Sync on Green) in 31khz modes.

Firstly Im a noob to all this and I wasn't aware of this setup, does it really make a difference? Also I can't seem to find a VGA to Mini Din cable online is there a special place to get one?

also I got a av famicom being modded with rgb would this method improve the picture even more?


thanks in advance

[Fudoh]

does it really make a difference?

On the PS2 the RGBs (for 240p and 480i) and RGsB (for 480p) signals have basically no visible noise compared to the component ones. So, yes, it makes a difference.

Also I can't seem to find a VGA to Mini Din cable online is there a special place to get one?

no, you have to get one made or make it yourself.

also I got a av famicom being modded with rgb would this method improve the picture even more?

no, the AV Famicom with RGB is perfect already. Anything to complain about on yours ?

[jaxmazon]

does it really make a difference?

On the PS2 the RGBs (for 240p and 480i) and RGsB (for 480p) signals have basically no visible noise compared to the component ones. So, yes, it makes a difference.

Also I can't seem to find a VGA to Mini Din cable online is there a special place to get one?

no, you have to get one made or make it yourself.

also I got a av famicom being modded with rgb would this method improve the picture even more?

no, the AV Famicom with RGB is perfect already. Anything to complain about on yours ?

Thanks for the info, Will see if I can my self a cable I assume these diagrams are correct

http://www.gamesx.com/wiki/lib/exe/fetc ... pinout.png

http://www.teletechsvc.net/pinouts/img/vga_pinout.jpg


I haven't got my av famicom yet I was just asking if it would help but it doesn't then awesome

Thanks again

[NWrain]

If someone could tell me how to eliminate the black borders around the screen I would appreciate it.

The resizing options are very buggy and you can't use scanlines if you resize the picture.

I found that my monitor has an overscan function when paired with the frame meister. It takes care of the borders, and I still have my scanlines. It never appeared with my other scalers on VGA or DVI.

480P and 1080P work perfectly with and without scanlines. However, 720P has white/rainbow stipes flickering horizontally across the screen. Does anyone know what is happening?

I am using Euro scart wired cables, and the Retro Accessories Euro scart to mini-din adapter.

[Smashbro29]

I already have the SCART to mini din convert from retro game accessories, is it possible that I can get a VGA to SCART cable?

[Elrinth]

I just got my Framemeister Mini XRGB today. I'm not getting any audio at all from it tho

Using my Sharp Twin Famicom to try.

[grumly54]

I just got my Framemeister Mini XRGB today. I'm not getting any audio at all from it tho

Using my Sharp Twin Famicom to try.

it happend sometimes, just reboot your framemeister and retry

[Elrinth]

tried with my pal mega drive. image is horrible with that. still no audio btw.
maybe frame meister doesn't support pal video input?

Still no luck with sound. But is it really even supporting audio out in the hdmi?

[ZellSF]

It supports PAL (update your firmware if you haven't) and it definitely supports audio over HDMI.

[grumly54]

tried with my pal mega drive. image is horrible with that. still no audio btw.
maybe frame meister doesn't support pal video input?

Still no luck with sound. But is it really even supporting audio out in the hdmi?

you must have a RGB cable (RGB-21 JAP) or a PAL RGB with a SCART PAL to JAP to your framemeister. Your sound problem should be from this cable problem.

[Elrinth]

Tried my PC-Engine now aswell... Visuals but no audio.

Tried my Wii U with HDMI 1 just for funs sake... Bland visuals but no audio. Probably bland visual cause I didn't change any settings from how I set it up for my Famicom, for the visuals.

Are you guys sure there is nothing wrong with my unit?

There really are only 3 different settings for the audio...
(1) Volume. I tried maxing, still not a squeak.
(2) A/V Mute... This actually mutes both Audio and Video. Not only audio.
(3) Some HDMI / Analog setting under options, which doesn't make any difference.

Yes I updated to 1.07A already just like said in this tutorial:
http://junkerhq.net/xrgb/index.php/XRGB ... AMEMEISTER

I just ordered a PAL scart -> JAP scart convertor from here: http://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/euro ... erter.html

EDIT:
Success! I switched HDMI cable between TV and framemeister... Now I get better visuals for the Wii U AND Audio... That old cable must've been some real shit.

Actually it was the bottom-most hdmi-port on my tv whihc was fucked up. Tried again now with the old cable and top hdmi-port and it works flawlessly!

Thx everyone who try to help

[grumly54]

Great now have fun

[NWrain]

I took a photo of the issue I mentioned previously. I get streaks across the screen, and I was wondering if anyone knows what is causing this? I tested this on another monitor, and the same thing happens.

I tested on my TV, and it works fine there, but I occasionally lose sync.

[Fudoh]

try to disable functions like deep color. force the color space to RGB and possible switch between DVI and HDMI output mode. Nothing else I could think of.

[NWrain]

None of those worked unfortunately. I used firmware 1.06, and firmware 1.07a. I even tested a official Super Famicom cable on my SNES using the JP21 connector, and the same issue happens on 720P. I bought mine from Solaris Japan. Has anyone had any luck dealing with them before? They don't have a return policy listed on their website...

[Fudoh]

don't worry, if it's flaky unit, it will get replaced. Send them the pictures and have them forward your screenshots to Micomsoft. This is the easiest and fastest way to determine if it's a problem with the machine.

[Konsolkongen]

A friend of mine bought a Framemeister a while back and it behaved like yours in 720p, but worked fine in 480p and 1080p. Unfortunately he has been so busy with his work that he hasn't had a chance to test it on another TV. He's using an older LG LCD TV. I hope it's just the TV acting weird, it's probably too late for him to get a replacement Framemeister now.

It's a damn shame he lives in the opposite end of the country, I could easily determine what the problem was if I brought my Framemeister to his house

[arcadeswede]

I tried to read this thread but I have spent hours scrolling through all the pages and haven't found what I'm looking for.

So here's my question:
Has anyone tried to capture some gameplay with the HD PVR 2? It has HDMI in and out so it should be possible, right?

The connection would be something like this:
Console > XRGB-Mini > HD PVR 2 > HDTV

If anyone has tried this, please let me know and tell me if it works and if it does, what should I think of.

[Elrinth]

shouldn't be anything special?

I ordered a roxio game capture hd same time as my framemeister, still waiting for it to arrive, tho I got my framemeister yesterday. should be same setup. will post back to thread when I got it
then again, japan to swe has always been faster than us to swe for me.

[Fudoh]

In theory it works. You need to disable the framelock (V-Sync) on the Mini, so the processor can output 59.94Hz instead of what the source system delivers. When I last tried the framelock function was broken and could NOT be properly turned off. This was mentioned in my review a year ago already.

[Elrinth]

In theory it works. You need to disable the framelock (V-Sync) on the Mini, so the processor can output 59.94Hz instead of what the source system delivers. When I last tried the framelock function was broken and could NOT be properly turned off. This was mentioned in my review a year ago already.

I tested on 1.07A yesterday and I notice there was VSYNC OFF and Auto.
Also I notice there was under options some sync stuff, however couldn't be configured.

Btw... Here's just a quick preview on what happens with framemeister on my TV:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73q60opmmgE
Looks okay, but I feel there is color bleeding happening with the framemeister but without the framemeister image looks great on my samsung tv. it's like the samsung tv upscales better? o_O
Will see how it is with the Pc-Engine later when I get the jap -> eu scart convertor cause my pc-engine is rbg-modded.

[Konsolkongen]

You're using composite video. That always sucks.