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Well the screen tearing problem has seemed to be gone now after about 150 odd Window 7 updates and Service Pack 1 was installed. I have now a new problem, when i play back a capture in VLC i get this problem.....

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Im using Lagarith codec for capturing, if i play the file through windows media player it displays fine. I never had this problem with VLC player before i did a format and fresh install on my OS drive, any ideas?
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Did you pull down the Tools -> Media Information and Codec Information dialogs? This might give you a clue. Messages (Ctrl+M) might be helpful too.
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Ed Oscuro wrote:Did you pull down the Tools -> Media Information and Codec Information dialogs? This might give you a clue. Messages (Ctrl+M) might be helpful too.
this is all the info i got.....

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Most VLC people hate hearing this, but I have found that VLC works great under 90% of cases, and then fails spectacularly in the rest of them. I switched away from VLC when they were having problems supporting subtitles that came with X,Y coordinates.

That said, Have you tried loading your file in Media Player (Windows, or Classic, they both really use the same method of playback internally)?
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dieKatze88 wrote:Most VLC people hate hearing this, but I have found that VLC works great under 90% of cases, and then fails spectacularly in the rest of them. I switched away from VLC when they were having problems supporting subtitles that came with X,Y coordinates.

That said, Have you tried loading your file in Media Player (Windows, or Classic, they both really use the same method of playback internally)?
Well i just this week did a OS format and fresh install, before this VLC player was playing my capture files fine, so im not sure why its not now?.

Yeah the videos play fine in windows media player
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lettuce wrote:
dieKatze88 wrote:Most VLC people hate hearing this, but I have found that VLC works great under 90% of cases, and then fails spectacularly in the rest of them. I switched away from VLC when they were having problems supporting subtitles that came with X,Y coordinates.

That said, Have you tried loading your file in Media Player (Windows, or Classic, they both really use the same method of playback internally)?
Well i just this week did a OS format and fresh install, before this VLC player was playing my capture files fine, so im not sure why its not now?.

Yeah the videos play fine in windows media player
Again, personal experience, ymmv, but I find that VLC is very dependent on things like the current phase of the moon. The videos playing in WMP mean that its something that VLC is doing. Has anyone button mashed at your install of VLC? I recall VLC having a plethora of keyboard shortcuts.
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Can anyone shed any light why having, 'Advanced>Video Rendering Settings>Priority to EVR' in AmaRecTV causes the CPU to be throttled at 100% usage? As for long capturing periods this is causing a lot of heat on the CPU, when monitoring with RealTemp?, setting to 'Advanced>Video Rendering Settings>Use Only Overlay' and the CPU usage is only 4% but then i get an error message of, 'Unusable Overly Video Renderer'

I'm not sure why the CPU gets throttled as doesn't the StarTech Capture card do its own processing?
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dieKatze88 wrote:
lettuce wrote:
dieKatze88 wrote:Most VLC people hate hearing this, but I have found that VLC works great under 90% of cases, and then fails spectacularly in the rest of them. I switched away from VLC when they were having problems supporting subtitles that came with X,Y coordinates.

That said, Have you tried loading your file in Media Player (Windows, or Classic, they both really use the same method of playback internally)?
Well i just this week did a OS format and fresh install, before this VLC player was playing my capture files fine, so im not sure why its not now?.

Yeah the videos play fine in windows media player
Again, personal experience, ymmv, but I find that VLC is very dependent on things like the current phase of the moon. The videos playing in WMP mean that its something that VLC is doing. Has anyone button mashed at your install of VLC? I recall VLC having a plethora of keyboard shortcuts.
Seems more likely a codec hasn't been installed yet, or all the updated drivers haven't been snagged yet.

I don't have any of the problems with VLC you describe...it's been getting much better over the years and it started out pretty good to begin with.
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VLC is great, as is MPC-HC, just make sure you have all the up to date codecs.
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Any ideas on the excessive CPU usage, even when there is nothing being captured?
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I've been seeing a lot of conflicting information about the StarTech version of this card and the documentation isn't detailed as to what inputs it accepts. Can it or can it not capture (not record) 1080p@59.94/60?
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eightbitminiboss wrote:I've been seeing a lot of conflicting information about the StarTech version of this card and the documentation isn't detailed as to what inputs it accepts. Can it or can it not capture (not record) 1080p@59.94/60?
It can't. It also can't record 1080p30.
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blizzz wrote:
eightbitminiboss wrote:I've been seeing a lot of conflicting information about the StarTech version of this card and the documentation isn't detailed as to what inputs it accepts. Can it or can it not capture (not record) 1080p@59.94/60?
It can't. It also can't record 1080p30.
Thanks for the definitive answer!
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Question about my current setup when playing and capturing Xbox 360 gameplay sessions. I have my xbox connected to the Micomsoft/StarTech capture card via HDMI, i then have a HDMI cable running from the HDMI port on my GFX card (AMD 6979) to my LCD TV which acts as the 2nd display for my PC. I load AmaRecTV and move it to the 2nd display and make it fullscreen, so i am now playing my 360 games on the LCD TV whilst capturing. Regarding the resolution i run the 2nd display in do i want to leave it as 1920x1080 or should i be changing it to 1280x720 as this is the max res the Micomsoft/StarTech supports? I would have though i shoudl change the desktop res to 1280x720 to match the capture res but i appear to be losing some of the screen when compared to 1080p res. Any ideas?
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I would really think about adding a 1:2 HDMI splitter behind your 360 and going directly into the TV. All you get using it the way you do now is additional lag.
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To be honest ive have had any real lag issues, was able to do all the quick time events in Resident Evil 6 without any problems, and some of them require fast reaction times.

I havent been able to find a HDMI switch that allows output to 2 or more HDMI sources, only ones ive seen allows 2 or more inputs to a HDMI source. For example i would need...

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But can only seem to find...

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which isnt what i want, as it is send 2 HDMI sources into the xbox it not allowing 2 HDMI sources to come out of the xbox
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you need a splitter, not a switch. Easy and really cheap, have a look on amazon or ebay.

Even without lag issues, a direct connection is always better. Just imagine what you want to play a 360 session and your PC is occupied with something else or switched off...
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Splitter-INPUT- ... 285&sr=8-2

Like that?

Surely i need 1 output to 2 output, thats listed as 1 input to 2 output??
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lettuce wrote:http://www.amazon.co.uk/Splitter-INPUT- ... 285&sr=8-2

Like that?

Surely i need 1 output to 2 output, thats listed as 1 input to 2 output??
You plugging the xbox into the input and you're outputting to your television and capture card. Also, get a powered splitter at least...
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eightbitminiboss wrote:
lettuce wrote:http://www.amazon.co.uk/Splitter-INPUT- ... 285&sr=8-2

Like that?

Surely i need 1 output to 2 output, thats listed as 1 input to 2 output??
You plugging the xbox into the input and you're outputting to your television and capture card. Also, get a powered splitter at least...
Hang i need to be outputting from the 360 though not inputting???

any suggestions for a cheap power splitter?, do i really need a power splitter if its only 2 outputs?
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lettuce wrote:
eightbitminiboss wrote:
lettuce wrote:http://www.amazon.co.uk/Splitter-INPUT- ... 285&sr=8-2

Like that?

Surely i need 1 output to 2 output, thats listed as 1 input to 2 output??
You plugging the xbox into the input and you're outputting to your television and capture card. Also, get a powered splitter at least...
Hang i need to be outputting from the 360 though not inputting???

any suggestions for a cheap power splitter?, do i really need a power splitter if its only 2 outputs?
You're getting the video signal from the 360, not putting into it.

I recommend a powered HDMI splitter because the unpowered ones introduce latency issues or fail handshaking between devices, at least in my experience.

You're looking for something similar to this.
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indeed, please use a powered one. 25 pounds is a bit steep, maybe something like this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Proxima-Direct% ... 15&sr=1-23

ebay will probably give you some 10 pound options.
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Any ideas if there's a splitter which would allow 1 output to output 720p and the other to output 1080p if the XBOX was outputting a 1080p signal?. This way i could still run a 1080p to the LCD and 720p to the Micomsoft/StarTech card?
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this would be called a video processor and costs $500+
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The "cheap alternative" would be to have the 360 output at 720p. :lol:
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sounds good to me :lol:
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You don't lose anything from playing in 720p. I only know one game on the 360 that runs natively at 1080p*, the rest runs at 720p or slightly lower.

* there are some other games too, but mostly obscure sports titles
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Hi,

I have got an issue trying setting up Amarectv.
Once i lanch amarectv, i always have error message with .ini files.

I want to capture my Cave PCBs through my xrgb mini framemeister and sc500n1 via RGB cable.

I set up everyhting and it can get video on my pc with videokeeper but not with amarectv! :shock:
I set up manually all the information in amarectv :
SA7160 PCI analog 01 capture
w720 h240 59.64....

As mini framemeister has only hdmi output, i use a HDMI-DVI cable to connect to SC500N1.

I am getting the following error message:
"return: HRESULT=80004005 (FAILED) Error not specified
code: pConfig -> SetFormat(pamt)"

I cannot find where is the problem.
Is there an input issue or my installation is not correct?

Hope you can help me getting it work 8)
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w720 h240 59.64
this is a 15khz timing and certainly nothing your Framemeister would output.
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yukbeezy wrote:I have got an issue trying setting up Amarectv.
Once i lanch amarectv, i always have error message with .ini files.
Most likely your PC is set to write numbers like this 3,14. Amarec needs the English version wiht a dot as the decimal symbol (3.14).
You can change it under 'Control Panel' -> 'Clock, Language, and Region' -> 'Change the date, time, or number format' -> Formats, Additional Settings -> Decimal symbol: .

Also, why don't you just use a standard HDMI cable?
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