R-Type Dimensions Coming to Xbox Live Arcade

Khan · Post by **Khan** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:55 pm

I like the look of this, i havent been on xbox live in awhile so thanks for this i might be buying it depending on the demo turns out

antron · Post by **antron** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:38 pm

so the demo is not out?

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:52 pm

The demo is out on Wednesday, the same day as the full game.

antron · Post by **antron** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:55 pm

DazTM wrote:I can't say I like the new camera angle gimmick, but from what I've played today it's bloody good fun.

sooooo.......
are you a game reviewer or something?

ex.machina · Post by **ex.machina** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:14 am

Anyone knows what time those updates usually take place? I wanna grab the demo at least, will probably pass on the full game. I think MS would have more turnover if they don't force demos for all Arcade games. Since I just wanna try most stuff, I am saving a lot cos of their mandatory demos.

supagorgonizer · Post by **supagorgonizer** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:20 am

go to the marketplace on xbox.com, queue the demo from there. it always appears on there quite a few hours before the live marketplace for some reason. here's the link for r type: http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-GB/games ... ?cid=SLink

ex.machina · Post by **ex.machina** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:29 am

supagorgonizer wrote:go to the marketplace on xbox.com, queue the demo from there. it always appears on there quite a few hours before the live marketplace for some reason. here's the link for r type: http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-GB/games ... ?cid=SLink

I found it on the marketplace now and just gave it a try. The 2d/3d switch function is quite funny, heh.

Still think this one should not cost more than 800 points though, there are a lot of good arcade games which cost less than this one.

BBH · Post by **BBH** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:57 am

for fuck's sake, why can't you change the button layout? ugggghhh

I was on the fence about buying this at 1200 points but am definitely not going to bother if they can't even take the time to at least give the option of manually setting what each button does, let alone offer alternate pre-made choices for button configurations (note to game developers - putting a "Controls" section in the Options and then just having that section be nothing more than a diagram of the pad layout, does not fall under the category of OPTIONS!)

gigadrive32 · Post by **gigadrive32** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:05 am

Just downloaded it. Going to play now. I'll give my impressions later.

ex.machina · Post by **ex.machina** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:08 am

BBH wrote:for fuck's sake, why can't you change the button layout? ugggghhh

Yeah the default layout is kind of weird, I agree on that one. All in all I don't think there was an extreme effort put into this game. Once again, why don't they also overhaul sound effects? Looks nice, sounds shit.

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:13 am

Does anyone else think the ship movement is a bit jerky?

gigadrive32 · Post by **gigadrive32** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:13 am

Set the camera to 'crazy' to be able to switch the view from:
angled 3D>>to normal 3D>> to classic 2D, and back again,
with one butten press. You get to see more detail that way, like when you enter Bydo's base on the first level.

I like this.

dcharlie · Post by **dcharlie** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:18 am

just had a quick go, posting a truly miserable 225,300 in classic mode :/

Anyways, the biggest complaint i had with the TGS version has been somewhat addressed : the 3d graphics look was a bit too clean.

However, pressing select in game gives the ability to apply a limited set of filters to the 3d and it makes it a lot more pleasing to look at (at least to me anyways).

There is a fairly amusing "arcade" setting for the 2d mode which renders the emulation onto a model of an RType arcade machine. Pointless, but at least fun.

the standard 2d mode (widescreen and original available) both look good, nice and sharp. The "crazy" 3d cam is interesting, but not that well suited to a game like Rtype.

The infinite mode basically gives you infinite respawns from where you last died. no stopping and reloading from the last checkpoint, just reappear with the basic Force. Okay, it's nice that everyone can now finish the game, but an infinite lives with classic death might have worked a bit better (albeit it would still be hard!) . I actually did much worse in this mode than in classic on 3 lives. Coop looks like it could be fun and i'll be interested to see how it plays out.

Not sure about one of the achievements : Complete level 1 of RT1/2 using only the beam. One slight issue is that you ALWAYS fire a shot when charging the beam. Not sure whether it simply means "Don't pick up any non standard weapons" but with the horrid omission of configurable controls, this might not be possible to do.

Other quibbles, and i'd need to have the boards i already sold here to compare, is that there seems to be some weird collission errors in the players favour. I didn't notice it until level 4 but, despite having The Force at the front, no option, and no missiles, enemies that hit me from slightly above were killed.

Anyways, i quite like it!

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:09 pm

I suppose nobody knows if the Japanese or European marketplaces are going to receive this game? I'll download the demo on my old, unused American account and see what it's like. I've never been too particularly interested in horizontal shmups though.

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:21 pm

It was released world-wide today.

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:45 pm

I see that. I checked on Gamefaqs and it said that it was released in the US, and nowhere else.

I checked out the demo. The controls feel a bit weird.. I can't quite explain it, but they don't feel totally smooth. The ability to change from 2D to 3D while playing is a neat (although distracting) feature to the game. The different available angles are fairly irrelevant, including the arcade one which is just awful. I'm tempted to purchase it, but I'll probably wait until the SFIV pads are released. I'm tired of playing with the 360's dpad.

ex.machina · Post by **ex.machina** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:16 pm

bcass wrote:It was released world-wide today.

Got mine from the Asian marketplace.

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:18 pm

I got mine from the UK marketplace, and the Japanese are already hogging the top of the leaderboards, so it's definitely a world-wide release today.

Has anyone bought the premium theme? Any chance of some pictures of it?

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:46 pm

BBH wrote:for fuck's sake, why can't you change the button layout? ugggghhh

This was one of the first things I noticed. It's rather inexscusable.

ex.machina · Post by **ex.machina** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:51 pm

bcass wrote: Has anyone bought the premium theme? Any chance of some pictures of it?

No, can't stand such. Though it's cheap, you shouldn't sell such stuff but give it away for free.

TodayIsForgotten · Post by **TodayIsForgotten** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:17 pm

Not being able to change the layout is pretty lame. The arcade view is pointless. You play the game from an arcade cab(and from a distance). I put the game on its original graphics. The game play at first felt sluggish, but now it is fine. If anything it seems like enemy patterns are a tad different for some enemies. But, that could just be since i havent played it in a few months.

Overall, its fine to me. I'll try the remade graphics. I pulled a shitty 294k score. Need to push some japanese players down (:

3d looks pretty ok. Feels like im playing super rtype.

CecilMcW00t · Post by **CecilMcW00t** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:34 pm

Ok, I got the Beam Me Up! achievement. It seems that you are allowed to fire a shot to fire up the beam because I accidentally fired off a couple normal shots in order to start the charge up of the beam. But most of the time I was able to start charging without firing. None of those stray shots hit any enemies though. I also only collected the first pod power up and skipped the missile power up. The achievement popped right after the boss died. I was playing R-Type I.

Fudoh · Post by **Fudoh** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:56 pm

However, pressing select in game gives the ability to apply a limited set of filters to the 3d and it makes it a lot more pleasing to look at (at least to me anyways).

most definitely! Just played through R-Type (infinite only) with the Retro 2.0 filter. Looks amazingly good.

Retro sets the resolution to 320x240 whereas Retro 2.0 sets it to 640x480. Looks like a flawless progressive DC game this way. Very nice.

The scrolling all through the game remains a bit choppy as they don't seem to have invested much effort into converting the 5x Hz from the original into the 60Hz output the game now has.

A question the difficulty: I assume this is the standard arcade difficulty ? I've only played R-Type on the PC Engine I always remembered the 3rd boss (the large ship) to dye from a SINGLE beam shot, whereas I needed at least 10 to kill it in Dimensions.....

TodayIsForgotten · Post by **TodayIsForgotten** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:59 pm

Fudoh wrote:
However, pressing select in game gives the ability to apply a limited set of filters to the 3d and it makes it a lot more pleasing to look at (at least to me anyways).
most definitely! Just played through R-Type (infinite only) with the Retro 2.0 filter. Looks amazingly good.

Retro sets the resolution to 320x240 whereas Retro 2.0 sets it to 640x480. Looks like a flawless progressive DC game this way. Very nice.

The scrolling all through the game remains a bit choppy as they don't seem to have invested much effort into converting the 5x Hz from the original into the 60Hz output the game now has.

A question the difficulty: I assume this is the standard arcade difficulty ? I've only played R-Type on the PC Engine I always remembered the 3rd boss (the large ship) to dye from a SINGLE beam shot, whereas I needed at least 10 to kill it in Dimensions.....

nah the ship always took 4 or 5 beamshots.

also you dont have to be in the game to change the filters. Probably would actually save too if you just do it in the title screen.

Fudoh · Post by **Fudoh** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:28 pm

nah the ship always took 4 or 5 beamshots.

one and a half in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVNHNJoWAe0

And I'm pretty sure that 1 was enough if it's 100% loaded and exactly hit in the open eye.

TodayIsForgotten · Post by **TodayIsForgotten** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:59 pm

damn, i can never play with that much speed. Yea i guess 1.5 it is. I generally only charge up half way.

Square King · Post by **Square King** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:21 pm

I haven't played R-Type in years...and it shows.

The 3D is a little plasticy, but it's not horrible. The reflections and lighting effects are a nice touch. Looks and feels pretty good. I'm going to purchase once I have a little extra cash.

rancid3000 · Post by **rancid3000** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:35 pm

People who have it, is it worth the 1200 points? I only have 1200 points left, need to spend it wisely!

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:43 pm

At just 600 MSP per game, yes, I'd say it's worth it. There's plenty of extras here to warrant the cost IMO (leaderboards, online co-op, achievements, tastefully updated graphics, etc.). Show your support for these smaller projects so that more get made in the future.

TodayIsForgotten · Post by **TodayIsForgotten** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:43 pm

You're getting rtype 1 and 2 for 1200. I thought it would be awesome to have r-type, but after playing it until I 1cc'd it in Mame. THe lasting appeal for the first one is a bit low. Coop was a lot of fun, albeit lagged as hell. Atleast i have the 2nd one to look forward to. Bottom line: if you're a fan of rtype or like the genre, you should get it. You should try the demo regardless though.