Official Raiden IV thread

Dazzyman · Post by **Dazzyman** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:19 pm

Yea its worth getting

Udderdude · Post by **Udderdude** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:30 pm

It's worth getting, and also you can show everyone your mad skillz on Live.

Post by **spadgy** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:55 pm

Right - I bought this game on 360 for Double Play, and it seems you can only play Double Play on one pad using the two thumb sticks. I really want to play using both my Xbox 360 arcade sticks. Is there anyway I can set it up to let me do this? If not, that's crap. Surely standard Double Play should be with arcade sticks? Raiden III had it.

Guardians Knight wrote: so what is the difficulty of choice here then? arcade and original? wondering the same thing for RFJ too, i been on arcade mostly and aint noticed a huge difference between that and normal like....

On Raiden IV I'm playing Arcade Mode, Original difficulty (1 up from Normal), and finally Original Mode (as opposed to Light). I set the difficulty up to Original as that's the same as the default on the PCB.

If I do play Xbox 360 mode, I go for Normal difficulty, as it's default for the game.

Finally another question: After you enter a highscore, you save twice in a row. (I presume once for your score and once for replay). Is the first save for score, or for replay? I keep saving all these replays I don't want!

msm · Post by **msm** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:31 am

spadgy wrote:Right - I bought this game on 360 for Double Play, and it seems you can only play Double Play on one pad using the two thumb sticks. I really want to play using both my Xbox 360 arcade sticks. Is there anyway I can set it up to let me do this? If not, that's crap. Surely standard Double Play should be with arcade sticks? Raiden III had it.

can't you just play a 2 player game on your own? or am i missing something, maybe to do with it scoring differently?

kemical · Post by **kemical** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:46 am

the sound issue, can you guys post what your xbox's system settings are, and if it is hooked up via the analog LR or optical?

Douza · Post by **Douza** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:27 am

My Xbox is hooked with a microsoft vga cable and uses the L/R output and the sound issue is there

Post by **Dave_K.** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:20 am

msm wrote:
spadgy wrote: Surely standard Double Play should be with arcade sticks? Raiden III had it.
can't you just play a 2 player game on your own? or am i missing something, maybe to do with it scoring differently?

Yeah, Dual Play mode should work with two independent sticks. The only difference is the is that Double play combines the scores, Dual does not.

Post by **spadgy** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:57 pm

Dave_K. wrote:
msm wrote:
spadgy wrote: Surely standard Double Play should be with arcade sticks? Raiden III had it.
can't you just play a 2 player game on your own? or am i missing something, maybe to do with it scoring differently?
Yeah, Dual Play mode should work with two independent sticks. The only difference is the is that Double play combines the scores, Dual does not.

Yeah - no combined scores, no shared lives, no Double Play achievements! I guess at least the separate lives makes things easier - but that's not what I want! Gonna have to use a pad. Pah...

Anyway, I worked out that after you enter you score the first save is fpr you score, and the second save is for the replay.

EddyMRA · Post by **EddyMRA** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:28 am

Once again, here are the boss names, along with their Romaji.

Boss 1: エグゼレイ・イス (eguzerei isu)
Boss 2: オルド/フュラス/マイラザード (orudo/fyurasu/mairazaado)
Boss 3: ファメル・ヤー (fameru yaa): Famel Yar?
Boss 4: アグェン/エウァト (aguen/euato)
Boss 5: ダ・ルチュラ (da ruchura)
Boss 6: イスドガーラム (isudogaaramu)
Boss 7: ホルダ・ガーディア (horuda gaadia)

I can't figure out any of these. They are probably obscure mythological references. The closest I got was "Fyurasu", which is an Akkadian loanword and "euato", which closely matches "Evato", a town in Madagascar ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evato )

"Da ruchura" could be a corruption of "Da" and "Ruchira". "Da" refers to Adi Da, a controversial guru who founded a new religious movement known as Adidam. Ruchira is short for "Ruchira Avatar-Bhakti Yoga", which is the practice of this relationship to Adi Da.

The Ultimate of Raiden soundtrack is interesting, since it includes remixes of Raiden II music. The Raiden II music tracks never were given track names, but in this Raiden IV OST, they were given actual names:

R4 Stage 3, R2 Stage 7: "Flap Toward the Hope"
R4 Stage 4, R2 Stage 2/8: "Tragedy Flame"
R4 Stage 5 EX, R2 Stage 1: "Repeated Tragedy"

This makes me wonder if these Raiden II tracks were named these from the beginning, or given these names in Raiden IV.

Zeether · Post by **Zeether** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:45 pm

I think I remember the stage 2/8 track from Raiden II being called "Weapons of Hope"...

EddyMRA · Post by **EddyMRA** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:36 am

ZeetherKID77 wrote:I think I remember the stage 2/8 track from Raiden II being called "Weapons of Hope"...

That and other Raiden II track names you've seen were custom-named by Skyknight.

kemical · Post by **kemical** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:46 am

ok this game is awesome.

is world ranking the only way to rank using the leaderboards? (seems like it) i think I have the left speaker SFX thing too.

Guardians Knight · Post by **Guardians Knight** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:46 pm

can someone tell me how to buy the extra ships please? ive got some asian ms points and an asian account but it wont work keeps on giving me an error: status code:800700e8. do i need specifically japanese points on a japanese account?

Kron · Post by **Kron** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:41 pm

Unfortunately you'll need Japanese or Asian points to download the Japanese marketplace items.

Guardians Knight · Post by **Guardians Knight** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:05 pm

ive got asian points! thats what i tried to use, but it keeps giving me that error i posted above

kemical · Post by **kemical** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:39 pm

Guardians Knight wrote:ive got asian points! thats what i tried to use, but it keeps giving me that error i posted above

I think you need to be signed in on a Japanese region profile because I get that error when trying to purchase ships on my US profile.
What I'd really like to know is, after this type of DLC is downloaded, would it then be available to my US profile to use? I guess I can test this by signing in on another profile to see if DLC in other games still is added...

originalz · Post by **originalz** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:24 am

DLC bought by one account can be used by any account on the system except for very unusual circumstances.

Kron · Post by **Kron** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:25 am

Guardians Knight wrote:ive got asian points! thats what i tried to use, but it keeps giving me that error i posted above

How old is the asian points card? If you look at Play-Asia the users seem to be having success with the latest asian points cards on a Japanese gamertag but old points don't seem to be compatible.

How much truth is in that I don't know.

Guardians Knight · Post by **Guardians Knight** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:10 pm

ok thanks guys, i guess i'll have to buy some japanese points then

kemical · Post by **kemical** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:31 am

Guardians Knight wrote:ok thanks guys, i guess i'll have to buy some japanese points then

Hey I managed to purchase ms points in-game, I used a Japanese profile (passport/live account) and added a credit card, I put in all my normal credit card info, then onthe next page for address I used zip 0600000 and chose the first prefecture on the list and made up a city name (random japanese characters) then on the address 1 line, I put my normal correct street address that I use for billing (not including city state or zip)

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:56 am

kemical wrote:
Guardians Knight wrote:ok thanks guys, i guess i'll have to buy some japanese points then
Hey I managed to purchase ms points in-game, I used a Japanese profile (passport/live account) and added a credit card, I put in all my normal credit card info, then onthe next page for address I used zip 0600000 and chose the first prefecture on the list and made up a city name (random japanese characters) then on the address 1 line, I put my normal correct street address that I use for billing (not including city state or zip)

Wait, what? Impossible. This would mean that you can download points via Japanese content that you can access inside games, and not directly from the marketplace. I tried this with iDOLM@STER Live for You just now, and it wouldn't let me add my Mastercard to a recently created Japanese account. It says "The postal address doesn't match your city, state and locale."

kemical · Post by **kemical** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:48 am

It really worked, I am using a VISA card, I'm not sure if that makes any difference. It could possibly be that VISA doesn't check the address, and uses the 3-digit security code, not sure if Mastercard has that.

The first information screen was entirely credit card related, and had the ZIP on there (my real zip) once I entered the info, it then goes to page 2 which has the billing address, which I chose Japanese information for, except for the first line of my real address "XXXX Street Name #APT" which went in the final field on that screen.

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:37 am

Don't have a VISA card but it definitely doesn't work with my Mastercard. I'm not sure why. It has a security code too, but after entering it and entering a bunch of Japanese details, I get a failed error pop up.

I'm not too worried though. My current Mastercard is still attached to my main JP account, before they locked them in late 2007. Still, I would like to have another account with my card attached to it as well.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:54 pm

yeah I recently bought sin and punishment on the wii via the japanese wii download page.... I was shocked when it actually took my card. I thought it wouldn't work... visa also.

Guardians Knight · Post by **Guardians Knight** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:57 pm

well i just tried to add both my visa debit and my mastercard and neither worked, shame

Post by **spadgy** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:03 pm

Dazzyman wrote:Yea its worth getting

Even more worth getting after today's update (well - I downloaded it today).

Best of all for me, (and J^aws if you're out there mate!) you can now use two arcade sticks for Double Play!)

Also, the sound - is it me or is it improved?

Also, loads of small updates like being able to select the player-two ship in the 'World Ranking' game start-menu. (EDIT - seems you can now select P2 ship for all modes.)

I know this should have all be done before release, but I'm really glad they've gone to the time and effort to put this in!

ANOTHER EDIT: None of my Xbox Live freinds seem to be playing this, so my 'Friends' World Ranking hi-score table is empty. I'm OTAspadgy - Add me!

TodayIsForgotten · Post by **TodayIsForgotten** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:45 pm

Is this all that they changed? I noticed the 1p 2p thing, but what is the real point in that?

Post by **spadgy** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:35 pm

For Double Players, the two-stick thing is a big improvement. I for one always play Raiden games in Double Play more than Solo.

Fixing the sound issues too (if they are fixed - it sounds better on my TV...)

Admittedly, the Blue ship thing is small, as the ships don't have the vast difference between them that they do in many other Raiden games. Having played DX quite a bit with Blue ship because of that difference, it's nice to be able to climb inside a familiar cockpit once again.

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Add me on XBL for the Raiden IV 'friends' Leaderboard - OTAspadgy

antares · Post by **antares** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:18 pm

It seems that the update also made it possible to get the last secret achievement. Before the update no one had it.

So, does anyone know what it is (the one which is worth 30 gs)?

kemical · Post by **kemical** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:33 pm

nice i cant wait to get my 360 hooked back up and play the updated later

Glad they fixed the sound, and the sorting is great too. This game is so good.
i'll add you Spadgy, I'm XRA on there