Official Raiden IV thread

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:09 am

I hope for a 360 or PS3 port... if the PS2 or DC could do a arcade perfect port, sure. I just want a accurate port is all.

UnscathedFlyingObject · Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:56 am

I'm sure the PS2 can handle it if they do some decent work. The PS2 can handle stuff much better looking than this.

lupin23rd · Post by **lupin23rd** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:28 am

I thought a 360 port was already announced but that could have just been a rumor.

I'm voting for DC or PS3. I wonder if this game would end up at retail or on the PSN / XBLA.

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Necronom · Post by **Necronom** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:09 am

The problem with 360 and PS3 ports could be that there's a high possibility of them lacking Tate mode. Didn't MS already say that there'll be no tate in XBLA games? Probably the same with full priced ones.
PS3? Well, expensive to develop for and the userbase right now is hardly worth it.
Businesswise a PS2 port would make perfect sense though it seems they cranked up the details quite a bit which probably won't result in an arcade perfect port.
Voting for a PC port means voting for the most realistic and accurate port of them all. Seriously

Edit: Which one of the two buttons is the "send it/vote" one? I clicked on the left...hope it was the right one

Anybody having problems with the questions - use the google translator P_Hat posted.

JusteZero · Post by **JusteZero** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:00 pm

Necronom wrote: Anybody having problems with the questions - use the google translator P_Hat posted.

Hate to be the resident noob,... but that link allowed me to translate gibberish to gibberish.

Necronom · Post by **Necronom** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:21 pm

Please cooperate for a better product development regardless!
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incognoscente · Post by **incognoscente** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:54 pm

JusteZero wrote:
Gorecki wrote:Can anyone translate that? I'm all for voting for a port of Raiden IV, but I have no idea what bits to click.
Same here, even that translating link does me no good, prolly cuz I don't have any japanese language fonts installed.

Anyone care to dissect the questions so more people can vote.

Given in 3 parts so that I don't have to make a really tall png.
Part 1
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Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:15 pm

The problem with 360 and PS3 ports could be that there's a high possibility of them lacking Tate mode. Didn't MS already say that there'll be no tate in XBLA games?

yeah but i think that all applies to the US... if it were released on 360 in japan I don't think those rules would really apply.

JusteZero · Post by **JusteZero** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:16 pm

Awesome!!!
I'm just glad that I, a Canadian, got the chance to tell these guys at Moss my 2cents. More Shmup developers should do this, so they could see how many people outside of asia still give a damn about this genre.

I must say THANKS A MILLION Necronom and incognoscente!!!

You deserve a virtual beer, careful even our virtual beer up here isn't watered down. It's strong enough for virtual lumberjacks and virtual polar bears.

Battlesmurf · Post by **Battlesmurf** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:32 pm

I wish for a perfect Raiden 4 home port, with Raiden 1,2,DX, Fighters 1,2,Jet (all in a PERFECT package) following after the IMMENSE success of Raiden 3 and 4 in the US.......lol...someday

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:42 pm

I wish for a perfect Cave Legends 1, 2 and 3

with all Cave shmups.
For PC only off course

icepick · Post by **icepick** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:09 am

incognoscente wrote:Privacy policy at bottom:
E-mail address and other information will not be given, lent, or sold to a third party.
If the feds bust in, then we will comply with any orders they have which might involve disclosing this data. But we will punch them in the face first just as soon as we finish pissing our pants.

Does it actually say that?

Also, I really hope that you don't mind my posting links to your translation images in that Joystiq article. I thought that they worked really well, but it occurred to me only after I posted that I should've asked for permission first.

I don't think that I can edit it.

incognoscente · Post by **incognoscente** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:12 am

No worries!

The privacy policy covers that contingency but not in as colorful of language.

Xexyz · Post by **Xexyz** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:25 am

I voted for a NDS port of Raiden IV

Michaelm · Post by **Michaelm** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:44 am

Thanks very much for the translation of the questions !
I voted too

DC,PS2 and PC.

Necronom · Post by **Necronom** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:46 am

Just had a quick look at the specifications of Taito Type X, the arcade game system Raiden III and IV are running on. Didn't know that the system has an embedded Windows XP. Considering this fact and the standard PC components used, I wouldn't even call a PC version a "port"...more like "optimization" with a new menu screen including some options and stuff. Guess the PC version is pretty much a sure thing.

dark penguin · Post by **dark penguin** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:04 pm

nZero wrote: Except they've already developed the game on Type-X. Whatever happened with GD-ROM production, anyway?

With Last Hope being pressed on CD for the DC release, is the GD-ROM thing even an issue? I'm not sure how big Raiden 4 is, but I've seen some impressive stuff crammed into less than CD-R capacity.

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:13 pm

dark penguin wrote:
nZero wrote: Except they've already developed the game on Type-X. Whatever happened with GD-ROM production, anyway?

With Last Hope being pressed on CD for the DC release, is the GD-ROM thing even an issue? I'm not sure how big Raiden 4 is, but I've seen some impressive stuff crammed into less than CD-R capacity.

Officially released DC games are ONLY printed on GD-ROMs. That is a requirement from Sega themselves, and MOSS aren't a doujin circle. Anything they release is going to be licensed.

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:19 pm

Necronom wrote:Just had a quick look at the specifications of Taito Type X, the arcade game system Raiden III and IV are running on. Didn't know that the system has an embedded Windows XP. Considering this fact and the standard PC components used, I wouldn't even call a PC version a "port"...more like "optimization" with a new menu screen including some options and stuff. Guess the PC version is pretty much a sure thing.

So, we need to start new voting "Pls, release Chines PC version for 15.99$"

szycag · Post by **szycag** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:39 pm

Under why I like Raiden IV I put

"ARCADE GAME" damashii
USA loves Raiden!

hope they understand

Necronom · Post by **Necronom** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:48 pm

So, we need to start new voting "Pls, release Chines PC version for 15.99$"

Hehe, yeah...something like this. Would love to see a budget priced PC release in Europe like the PS2 one.

Limbrooke · Post by **Limbrooke** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:24 pm

Kiken wrote:
dark penguin wrote:
nZero wrote: Except they've already developed the game on Type-X. Whatever happened with GD-ROM production, anyway?

With Last Hope being pressed on CD for the DC release, is the GD-ROM thing even an issue? I'm not sure how big Raiden 4 is, but I've seen some impressive stuff crammed into less than CD-R capacity.
Officially released DC games are ONLY printed on GD-ROMs. That is a requirement from Sega themselves, and MOSS aren't a doujin circle. Anything they release is going to be licensed.

Exactly. Moss wouldn't be doing themselves a favour by going the other route. It just doesn't make sense at all to see fit a Dreamcast release.

Another large point to consider is the platform it's being ported from. Who can name the last non-Naomi based port to Dreamcast, I wouldn't even know where to start.

neoalphazero · Post by **neoalphazero** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:34 pm

Voted DC just for the pure insanity that it was offered, and PS2 because I'm confident a perfect port could come of it. *-neo

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:19 pm

Limbrooke wrote:Another large point to consider is the platform it's being ported from. Who can name the last non-Naomi based port to Dreamcast, I wouldn't even know where to start.

Probably KOF 2002 (MVS)... which was first released on DC in June of 2003 (it had a Dori Kore re-release in 04). I'm pretty sure every DC release after that was either developed on the home console or was a NAOMI port.

Although, if you throw in PC ports, then stuff like Baldr Force EXE (released in October of 2004) come in even later. Since the Type-X is a glorified PC, I guess this isn't too far fetched.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:37 pm

Three new Raiden IV vids are up on this Japanese site:

http://www.sepia.dti.ne.jp/poorgamer/movie.htm

The first one is a complete stage 1 vid (2.9mil). The other two sound like they are Stage 4 and Stage 5 boss vids.

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:58 pm

woah x5.0 multipliers

And is that a charge shot type thing I see there?

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:12 pm

Yeah, the x5.0 multipliers are a nice addition. The game looks really cool. Much better than Raiden III. I'm looking forward to playing some port of this in the near future.

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:38 pm

Yeah, game looks really cool.
Can't wait for loop 2 videos ))

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:15 am

Looks excellent; the boss explosions in particular look a lot more elaborate!

However, if the ship is even slower, or at about the same speed, as the ship in Raiden III, I don't understand how the player in the first video is able to move the ship around so quickly-and it isn't even the 2nd player ship.

Limbrooke · Post by **Limbrooke** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:03 am

Looks terrific, what sense of speed and the framerate is real easy on the eyes. I'm not crazy about 5.0x, since it allows much greater margin of error and obviously greater difference in scores. Maybe I'm looking at that the wrong way but it's probably not bad.
What's interesting is what appears to be a 'charging' element to the secondary weapons. It's very curious.