Settle an argument.....

SuperPang · Post by **SuperPang** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:41 pm

... how is Guwange pronounced?

benstylus · Post by **benstylus** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:37 pm

guwange is pronounced goo (as in poo) wan (as in Sean) gay (as in... gay).

Minzoku · Post by **Minzoku** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:38 pm

Goo-Wah-N-Gay are the Japanese characters, so some mutilation of that

Edit: JINX! *punches benstylus*

SFKhoa · Post by **SFKhoa** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:49 pm

Minzoku wrote:Goo-Wah-N-Gay are the Japanese characters, so some mutilation of that

Edit: JINX! *punches benstylus*

*says benstylus' name*
At least now I know this is the correct pronounciation.

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:57 pm

I think the GE part of Guwange is pronounced as the english "Get" without the "t".

landshark · Post by **landshark** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:18 pm

I think I'll forever pronounce it as:

Goo juan jee

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:57 pm

Turrican wrote:I think the GE part of Guwange is pronounced as the english "Get" without the "t".

I was about to mention that. The 'e' should be a softer, almost aspirated sound.. like 'geh' (or as you mentioned above, close to a schwa e).

velocity7 · Post by **velocity7** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:11 pm

If you go by hiragana, there's:

ぐわんげ = goo-wah-n-geh

And since CAVE spells it that way, I am pretty much certain *that's* how it's supposed to be pronounced. If it were an American name, I'd be singing a different song...

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:06 pm

velocity7 wrote:If it were an American name, I'd be singing a different song...

On that note, what, if anything, does "Guwange" mean when translated into English?

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:59 pm

I think I'll forever pronounce it as:

guh WANG

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 10:11 pm

I'm surprised you haven't found a way to make it "GIH-guh-WIHNG."

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 10:12 pm

No, this game sucks. Well, not really, but in comparison.

pixelcorps · Post by **pixelcorps** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 10:12 pm

BulletMagnet wrote:
velocity7 wrote:If it were an American name, I'd be singing a different song...
On that note, what, if anything, does "Guwange" mean when translated into English?

closest i can tranlate it to is that it's a legendary spirit / ghost (or class of spirit) of some sort..

nine tailed foxes, and other mythical ghosts could be classed as guwange, as far as I know, a more often used term is "yokai"..

maybe gaijunpunch can offer more clarification...

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 10:13 pm

Rob wrote:No, this game sucks. Well, not really, but in comparison.

But of course.

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 10:42 pm

Someone (like twe for instance, are you reading this?) could gently write it in IPA (International Phonetic Alphabet)? Thanks in advance!

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 11:06 pm

BulletMagnet wrote:
velocity7 wrote:If it were an American name, I'd be singing a different song...
On that note, what, if anything, does "Guwange" mean when translated into English?

The World of Guwange. If you still can't figure it out, read the notes, then spank yourself for not having read it earlier.

No, this game sucks. Well, not really, but in comparison.

Pass the bong.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 11:39 pm

Hey, I'm not the one who thought Guhwang was a good idea. Reflect barrier > Sonic Crackers + bullet shielding. It's just clunky and slow. Of course, without making the main character the slowest thing ever they would've had to think of a new idea.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:50 am

Kiken wrote:
Turrican wrote:I think the GE part of Guwange is pronounced as the english "Get" without the "t".
I was about to mention that. The 'e' should be a softer, almost aspirated sound.. like 'geh' (or as you mentioned above, close to a schwa e).

Aspiration isn't a term that applies to vowels, only consonants. There is no [h] at the end of the Japanese vowel sound either, and it's not close to schwa at all. The [e] at the end of 'guwange' is basically the same sound as the vowel sound in English 'day' (phonetically [dei]) but without the up-glide to . So try saying "day" but stop before you go to the short part at the end, and you should have it about right. It's slightly higher and tenser than the vowel in English "bet".

And the IPA phonetic transcription is easy: [guwaŋge] (except the is pronounced with the lips unrounded--I don't have the symbol for that on this keyboard).

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:59 am

twe wrote:Aspiration isn't a term that applies to vowels, only consonants. There is no [h] at the end of the Japanese vowel sound either, and it's not close to schwa at all. The [e] at the end of 'guwange' is basically the same sound as the vowel sound in English 'day' (phonetically [dei]) but without the up-glide to . So try saying "day" but stop before you go to the short part at the end, and you should have it about right. It's slightly higher and tenser than the vowel in English "bet".

Alright, I'm pronouncing it correctly, I just fail in explaining how to do so.

I'd like to buy a vowel... an F, please?

Minzoku · Post by **Minzoku** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:10 am

^^ I am, too, I was just lazifying it for American audiences

Specineff · Post by **Specineff** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:15 am

WTF?

LOL.

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:37 pm

twe wrote:
Kiken wrote:
Turrican wrote:I think the GE part of Guwange is pronounced as the english "Get" without the "t".
I was about to mention that. The 'e' should be a softer, almost aspirated sound.. like 'geh' (or as you mentioned above, close to a schwa e).
Aspiration isn't a term that applies to vowels, only consonants. There is no [h] at the end of the Japanese vowel sound either, and it's not close to schwa at all. The [e] at the end of 'guwange' is basically the same sound as the vowel sound in English 'day' (phonetically [dei]) but without the up-glide to . So try saying "day" but stop before you go to the short part at the end, and you should have it about right. It's slightly higher and tenser than the vowel in English "bet".

And the IPA phonetic transcription is easy: [guwaŋge] (except the is pronounced with the lips unrounded--I don't have the symbol for that on this keyboard).

GuwanGE like in GEtta Robot, (Getter), right?

highlandcattle · Post by **highlandcattle** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:31 pm

Minzoku wrote:^^ I am, too, I was just lazifying it for American audiences

Is that real

Minzoku · Post by **Minzoku** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:43 pm

Err, somethingawful.com tag? Nope... "unfortunately"

pixelcorps · Post by **pixelcorps** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:43 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:
BulletMagnet wrote:
velocity7 wrote:If it were an American name, I'd be singing a different song...
On that note, what, if anything, does "Guwange" mean when translated into English?
The World of Guwange. If you still can't figure it out, read the notes, then spank yourself for not having read it earlier.

No, this game sucks. Well, not really, but in comparison.
Pass the bong.

hmm.. so its a sound effect.. strange.. but this makes sense why i misinterpted it.. the (as I now know) sound is associated with 9-tailed foxes as well as wolves.. I should spent more time learning japanese instead of speculatively filling in the gaps!!

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:09 pm

Guwange is eventually what they named the gigantic baby at the end of the game, but from the info on the website, it got that name due to the sound the people could hear from outside the forrest. Not sure if that's a type of russling, or his stomach, or gnarling, or what. Then again, this is a langauge "ruff ruff" equals "wan wan".

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:31 am

twe wrote:right pronunciation

thanks, i thought it was simply [guwange] (yeah, with rounded lips for .