Some people just have too much money!

[neorichieb1971]

http://www.chicagosvt.com/forums/showth ... p3?t=11567


Yellow, white, orange, gray and lots of red. Must be $20 million worth there at least. I guess it puts Zak's PCB collection to shame

[D]

I guess it puts Zak's PCB collection to shame

No, it doesn't, I thought you found someone with all pcb's ever released And who's Zak? # pcb's?
Who has the most pcb's cabs collection incl. pics, etc?

[mannerbot]

This KILLS any PCB collection, period.

[Ceph]

Why, these are just cars. All you can do is clean them, fix them and drive them (at 65mph in the US of A, wahaha). So what.

[system11]

Why, these are just cars. All you can do is clean them, fix them and drive them (at 65mph in the US of A, wahaha). So what.

All you can do with a PCB is store it, play it, and cry when it inevitably breaks

Seriously - the 'drive at 65' thing is a line you can only use if you've never driven a fun car. I drive my 'nice' car between 65 and 75 (limit here is 70), but I get more enjoyment from it than my PCB and cab collection, which used to number 250-300 boards and 20 cabs.

I wish I had that much money. Money most certainly can buy happiness, and people who disagree are just trying to make themselves feel better.

[Ganelon]

Seems awfully risky to put that much into a standard shed... I'd have a 24-hour guarded underground steel-reinforced compound to store those babies.

[Davey]

Seriously - the 'drive at 65' thing is a line you can only use if you've never driven a fun car.

Maybe, maybe not. Granted, I've only owned econoboxes, but I've never considered driving even remotely fun. More of a burden, really. Boring at best, stressful at worst. If it weren't for the crappy weather and all the other cars on the road, I'd much rather ride a bicycle everywhere. But I'm sure a lot of people would consider that boring... doesn't mean they never owned a nice bike, though.

It reminds me of roller coasters (which are a much different experience, of course, but the speed issue made me think of them). I live near Cedar Point, which is rated one of the best roller coaster parks in the world, yet I don't find the place very exciting. I'm just not particularly amused by roller coasters... I get really nervous upon the first ascent, then I swoop around at 70 to 120 mph. Meh. Yet other people around me feel a huge adrenaline rush. The part of my brain that senses speed must be numb, I guess.

I wish I had that much money. Money most certainly can buy happiness, and people who disagree are just trying to make themselves feel better.

I don't know. I have an entry-level job, and yet I still I save over half my net income because there aren't many things out there I want to buy. On the other hand, if I won enough money to retire today, my mind would probably change quickly... but even then it would be the freedom I would value, not the stuff I could buy.

Although I'm sure a lack of money could buy you plenty of despair.

Actually, I once read about a study involving the science behind happiness, and Tibetan monks were found to be the happiest group, despite having virtually no material possessions (although my favorite finding was that raising kids generally didn't raise happiness, although pet ownership did). Sorry, I don't have a link.

[Limbrooke]

I like the line where someone believes that owner is the man 'who invented the barcode.."
Honestly though, unless you're into track driving, I think having such a collection is pretty useless. One Lotus Elise 190 is more than enough on the track and can take it to any given car in that whole lot, pardon say that Touring style 911. If you're the kind of person who likes a nice stretch of vacant, straight road and just flooring it, well...I cannot comment on that, but to each their own.

[neorichieb1971]

If $20 million was invested in PCB's you would need about the same storage space

The comparison between Zak and this guys car collection that I was making is that there are people with silly amount of money, but there are also people who have so much money its not even a thought. I bet this guy just pre-orders everything for the sake of just having it.

[sven666]

man i wish i had an elise

[SAM]

I wish I had that much money. Money most certainly can buy happiness, and people who disagree are just trying to make themselves feel better.

I know you are speaking the truth. But I am sorry, I have to disagree. Since there is no point making myself feel worser, for I am a poor cat.

I am runing out of money... Somebody please buy my JORK converter, the Trigon & 1943 PCB...

[Ceph]

I wish I had that much money. Money most certainly can buy happiness, and people who disagree are just trying to make themselves feel better.

I know you are speaking the truth. But I am sorry, I have to disagree. Since there is no point making myself feel worse, for I am a poor cat.

LOL

[professor ganson]

Money most certainly can buy happiness, and people who disagree are just trying to make themselves feel better.

All the data I've seen shows otherwise. One's life satisfaction will typically increase if one is initially in poverty and gets out of it. But studies strongly suggest that people above a certain threshold (approx. the poverty line) who go on to acquire a lot more money-- such people have a temporary high (not more than six months, say), but in the long run their life satisfaction is no greater than before they got the increase in funds. You might think: well, I'm different; my life would definitely be more satisfying. And perhaps you're right. But you would be an exceptional case, if that's true about you.

[raiden]

All the data I've seen shows otherwise. One's life satisfaction will typically increase if one is initially in poverty and gets out of it. But studies strongly suggest that people above a certain threshold (approx. the poverty line) who go on to acquire a lot more money-- such people have a temporary high (not more than six months, say), but in the long run their life satisfaction is no greater than before they got the increase in funds. You might think: well, I'm different; my life would definitely be more satisfying. And perhaps you're right. But you would be an exceptional case, if that's true about you.

that´s pretty much self-explanatory once you realize how perception of feeling works: the only thing you really notice is a difference from the previous state. That´s because the system of hormones responsible for sensations and feelings is a self-stabilizing, self-regulating "mechanism" elevating all changes so they are perceived as normal after some time. And it works this way because that´s the most effective way to regulate human behaviour in a way that makes us fit for survival. Human beings are what they are by their ability to adapt to changes, and the way emotions work is an important foundation for this ability.

[PaCrappa]

Not one single 60s, 70s or 80s Toyota Landcruiser. Guy's a pussy.

Pa

[Davey]

But studies strongly suggest that people above a certain threshold (approx. the poverty line) who go on to acquire a lot more money-- such people have a temporary high (not more than six months, say), but in the long run their life satisfaction is no greater than before they got the increase in funds.

Yeah, I remember hearing that most lottery winners are actually less happy a year or so after they win than before they won (but in some cases that had to do with them overspending and depleting their winnings prematurely).

Telling fair-weather friends to fuck off would be hard, too. I mean when I worked at McDonald's in high school, people from class who I never talked to would be like "Dude, what's up, man! Hook me up!" If people I hardly know pretended to be my friend to get a free Quarter Pounder with Cheese, I can just imagine what mild acquaintances might come out of the woodwork to try to get a cut of my lottery winnings. That would create a lot of akwardness and tension...

[MSZ]

Not one single 60s, 70s or 80s Toyota Landcruiser. Guy's a pussy.

Pa

Did they make any Land Cruiser/LX450/LX470 in UK, Germany and Italy?

No wonder why he doesn't have any.

[landshark]

Wow. Just, wow.

Why, these are just cars. All you can do is clean them, fix them and drive them (at 65mph in the US of A, wahaha). So what.

65? Which America? My average speed on the way to work is 75-100. (except for a few spots and known cop spots)

If you have that money, it becomes fun to just collect - you don't have to drive them. Why do people collect baseball cards? Stuffed animals? Etc... it's just a different price range.

[system11]

that´s pretty much self-explanatory once you realize how perception of feeling works: the only thing you really notice is a difference from the previous state. That´s because the system of hormones responsible for sensations and feelings is a self-stabilizing, self-regulating "mechanism" elevating all changes so they are perceived as normal after some time. And it works this way because that´s the most effective way to regulate human behaviour in a way that makes us fit for survival. Human beings are what they are by their ability to adapt to changes, and the way emotions work is an important foundation for this ability.

The important thing about money=happiness is that lack of money=misery. The more money you have, the less you have to fear for the future. I have a job, I work in IT where traditionally careers are dashed in an instant. This is a constant source of worry for me. Rich people don't have that pressure, they don't need to worry about where the rent will come from. Money = freedom, and free people are always more content.

[PaCrappa]

Not one single 60s, 70s or 80s Toyota Landcruiser. Guy's a pussy.

Pa

Did they make any Land Cruiser/LX450/LX470 in UK, Germany and Italy?

No wonder why he doesn't have any.

Well they didn't make any Landcruisers (I'm talking about the real utility vehicles, not some poofy luxury truck from last year so leave out all that LX bullshit please) in the USA either, but somehow I have one. Magic?

Pa

[Marc]

The important thing about money=happiness is that lack of money=misery. The more money you have, the less you have to fear for the future.

Now that, sir, is the truth. And one I am currently feeling the sharp pointy end of.

[professor ganson]

The important thing about money=happiness is that lack of money=misery. The more money you have, the less you have to fear for the future.

Now that, sir, is the truth. And one I am currently feeling the sharp pointy end of.

Yeah, it does seem like wealthy people are insulated from a number of kinds of bad things. They too are subject to bad luck, but there are surely fewer things to worry about overall. At the same time, if you are the sort to worry or be depressed, I'm not sure money is all that helpful. You can sedate yourself with expensive drugs, but in the long run that presumably won't do a lot for your sense of well-being. And then if you're not the sort of person to worry about things much, having enough money to get by will probably keep you happy. One thing is clear, though: poverty generally has a negative impact on happiness, and the real threat of poverty is likely to have a negative impact as well.

Today I'm relatively happy. Yesterday I was genuinely worried that my daughter might have cancer, but good results came back this morning. I have a very real sense of how much happiness is subject to chance/luck.

[mannerbot]

Today I'm relatively happy. Yesterday I was genuinely worried that my daughter might have cancer, but good results came back this morning.

Good to hear. Wish you and your family the best.

[system11]

Today I'm relatively happy. Yesterday I was genuinely worried that my daughter might have cancer, but good results came back this morning. I have a very real sense of how much happiness is subject to chance/luck.

Not to make light of the situation, but this is a prime example of what I meant. If the results had been bad, you'd most certainly be upset either way, but the rich person doesn't have to additionally worry about remortaging their house to pay for medical bills. Money is insulation, money is safety, and money most certainly means you can buy a big shiny red Ferrari if driving them makes you happy.

[raiden]

The important thing about money=happiness is that lack of money=misery. The more money you have, the less you have to fear for the future. I have a job, I work in IT where traditionally careers are dashed in an instant. This is a constant source of worry for me. Rich people don't have that pressure, they don't need to worry about where the rent will come from. Money = freedom, and free people are always more content.

Rich people don´t have to worry about getting money, but about losing it. Rich people aren´t used to get by with a little, so they are more vulnerable in situations like being stranded on an island, out of reach of all their possessions. Moreover, you usually don´t get rich without being obsessed with maximizing your money, but being obsessed != freedom. It´s like saying being in love equals happiness, that may be true, but once you lose that state, you´re even unhappier than before falling in love, because you´ve grown accustomed to the state of being in love.

Going even further, you could say that worrying is an important part of life, a life without worries is also boring. So lack of money means problems, not misery. Misery, like "living happily everafter", is a term suggesting it lasts forever, and states like these never do. You can get used to problems as well, get used to dealing with them, until you consider that kind of life as normal, and it doesn´t nearly bother you as much as it used to, while on the other side of the road you may see a rich person freaking out because someone put a scratch on that new Ferrari of his.

[Vexorg]

Why, these are just cars. All you can do is clean them, fix them and drive them (at 65mph in the US of A, wahaha). So what.

Or you can take 'em to the track and drive 'em like you stole 'em...

[PC Engine Fan X!]

Why, these are just cars. All you can do is clean them, fix them and drive them (at 65mph in the US of A, wahaha). So what.

Or you can take 'em to the track and drive 'em like you stole 'em...

Ah yes, the "need for speed" at the racetrack -- this is the recipe for future superstars of motorsports racing...get bitten by the competitive racing "bug" when your kids are young and there's no known cure for it...except to win and win "Big". Who knows, perhaps your kid will be the next Jeff Gordon or Danica Patrick. ^_~

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[MSZ]

Not one single 60s, 70s or 80s Toyota Landcruiser. Guy's a pussy.

Pa

Did they make any Land Cruiser/LX450/LX470 in UK, Germany and Italy?

No wonder why he doesn't have any.

Well they didn't make any Landcruisers (I'm talking about the real utility vehicles, not some poofy luxury truck from last year so leave out all that LX bullshit please) in the USA either, but somehow I have one. Magic?

Pa

Well the LX is still named as Land Cruiser in Japan, like it or not.

I don't see any Cayennes in the pics, so he basically hates SUV.

Unlike Jay Leno's garage where you can find any kind of vehicles there.

[PaCrappa]

Landcruiser:



Some LX pile with a plastic spoiler:



I don't care who's listing what as what. "Luxury on the go" with a plastic spoiler on the back = dumb. Not a truck. I'm talking utility and piss on the "sport".

Pa

[DEL]

sven666 wrote;

man i wish i had an elise

One of my friends had an Elise, now he's upgraded to an Exige. It gets a lot of looks and of course is great for trackdays.
sven - If you want an Elise or Exige, I'm sure you can save up enough for a 2nd hand one. It will just take 'sacrifice' on your part & test how badly you want it. I'll give you an example, I always dreamed of a 928 S4 or GTS, so back in '97 I basically sacrificed a year. ie. I worked 2 jobs 14hrs/day 7 days a week, no girlfriend that year, I barely even saw my friends. I came out the other side with my goal and it felt Great! I mean 100 times better than if I'd been given it by rich parents. A huge sense of achievement.
Like I said, it all depends how badly you want it.