Battle Garegga Price Rise?

Diabollokus · Post by **Diabollokus** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 12:11 pm

Can anyone explain why this game has just doubled in value in a relatively short time, sure its godlike but its been around a few years!

Why now?

Is it due to magazine publicity or has some pyscho decided to buy everyone making the others more rare just to piss other guys off?

Hope Zak didn't start it LOL

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:32 pm

It seems the PCB is cheaper now...it's a lot better too. No between-stage load times.

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:48 pm

New influx of interested shmupo's after gradius V?

Maybe the old offer<->demand rule drove up the pice because it got a good reputation and a bigger possible market with still the same ammount of copies available?

Hell, I don't know! Just guessing here...

Cugel · Post by **Cugel** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 2:49 pm

It's expensive. I paid $90 including EMS shipping for my copy of GAREGGA. I paid $102 for Radiant Silvergun so I use that as a gauge for Saturn game prices.

Prices have definitely increased. I've seen $135 on one recent eBay auction.

Was it worth it? Hell yes. It's a great game. It's my favorite right now.

raiden · Post by **raiden** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:25 pm

It seems the PCB is cheaper now...it's a lot better too. No between-stage load times.

I don´t find it better, really. Afair, Saturn version loading times were around 5 seconds between stages, and the PCB self-check procedure takes about as long as booting the game up on a Saturn does. The Saturn version has better audio (including arranged soundtrack), a practice mode, saves scores - separately for each difficulty, play mode, and even keeps track of the date and whether continues were used. It´s graphically on par completely (at least I don´t remember any detail in which it was inferior), controls are even more precise than with the arcade version, and you can just turn the slowdown off if you want to. A lot of nice extra options like red ball, shrapnel on/off, useable yoko modes, built-in superplays... together with RaidenDX and both modern Cave games on PS2, it´s one of the rare occasions where a console version is so perfect you don´t miss a thing from the arcade.
The reason I still bought the PCB is just that my tate setup is completely geared to PCBs by now, so playing the PCB means a lot less hassle than switching to a Saturn I don´t even have just for Battle Garegga. And maybe the fact that I trust a PCB´s durability a little more than a CD. But if I still had a Saturn, or in case I should buy one again, I´d probably change to the Saturn version again. That´s different with Dodonpachi and Strikers 1945 II.

One reason for the current price increase might be the superplay DVD released last year. Hearing that someone spent 8 years playing this game should make a few people more aware of its qualities.

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 10:52 pm

Very valid point about the controls...I haven't played the Saturn version in a long time though that could make it better. I'd love to hear the arranged soundtrack and replays also but I could probably download them somewhere.

For me the instant transfer between stages makes the mame version (and soon the pcb) a lot more fun...but I'm an impatient bastard. And I guess you would need the correct region of pcb to get the bullets to be visible, unless that's a dip switch setting.

sven666 · Post by **sven666** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 11:03 pm

dude its just market fluctuation.. i remember about 2yrs ago garegga would fetch upto $150 on ye'ol'bay.. and then it plummethed down to around $70 and now its on a rise again.

same with RSG and just about every other collectible game..

buy it quickly or wait another year and hope for interest to cool down..

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 2:27 am

Couldn't agree more. What's up with people who take one look at a $130 Battle Garegga and think "OMG!!! Price skyrocketing!!" Just chill out; just 2 years ago, Garegga fetched about $90-100, then went to about $65-90 last year, and is now probably a bit higher. All through that time, there've been weird copies that hit over $100. How much higher isn't known well since the market isn't saturated with copies currently.

Getting bargains on their games isn't for people who don't have patience.

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 2:46 am

5 years ago I got mine used and complete in good/fair condition for $54. But as I was telling Cugel in a PM the other day, even back then it could go for $80 (that was a sealed copy I saw though, still fetched $70 opened)

Best $54 I ever spent.

TVG · Post by **TVG** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 2:50 am

maybe its because of ibara?
you know how an announcement of a sequel suddently makes you feel like playing the original til that one is out.

Diabollokus · Post by **Diabollokus** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 11:59 am

I think I'll wait for interest to cool down them, maybe buy some cheaper titles like parodius series in the mean time.

I paid 80 quid for silvergun, mint complete another guy 6 hours later paid 140£ including postage thats about 250-280$!

Yeah so what all does garegga have extra wise?

Aside from 4 extra characters

It has built in replays? any other things?

sven666 · Post by **sven666** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:51 pm

built in replays and the ost of kingdom GP/garegga (just put the CD in yor hifi system).

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 1:25 pm

There's built-in replays in Battle Garegga? How do you access them? I've never noticed them...

There's an options menu where you can change 5 things: stage select, immediate availability of Kingdom Grandprix ships, small hitbox, change most bullets to balls, and one other option. There's also an arranged soundtrack that sounds crisper and makes the intro music a lot more majestic.

Diabollokus · Post by **Diabollokus** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:18 pm

I take it then that all of those features are absent from the mame version?

For replays, extra characters or 4 new ships including a dragon! and an arranged soundtrack its definetly up there to get!

Think firestorm made me an offer, I'll have to check my finances at the moment though can't go out of control.

raiden · Post by **raiden** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:24 pm

but I'm an impatient bastard.

me too, that´s why this self-check procedure unnerves me so much. Thankfully, Dimahoo doesn´t have that.

And I guess you would need the correct region of pcb to get the bullets to be visible, unless that's a dip switch setting.

yeah, I could flash the eproms if I was inclined to, but that´s nowhere near the comfort of switching on the fly. I prefer the regular bullets (don´t consider them invisible), but when friends come by, they would sometimes like to use red ball option. No way to do that with the PCB. Honestly, the option to turn slowdown off is a much bigger tease for me.

Just for the record: the 4 extra characters are availlable on the PCB as well, but you need to enter a code each time to access them, much less comfortable than the Saturn version.

To access the superplay, afair you need to 1cc the game, but it doesn´t matter which difficulty setting and whether you use continues. As scores are saved separately anyway, you could spoil your very easy list while keeping the others intact.

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:42 pm

Ahh, thanks. But I guess if you can use continues, it's not a 1CC. Hell if I'm going to leave a save file without a nice solid 0 at the end of my score. Guess I'll have to keep practicing sometime to unlock it.

The biggest problem I find with the red balls is that I expect every bullet to be changed into red balls, which isn't the case since a few bullets for whatever reason still appear as bullets. And while training my eye to spot only red bullets and missiles, I narrowly miss or get hit by a normal bullet, which feels very awkward. The Garegga MAME ROM from Denmark has the red balls on by default if you want to compare them.

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:25 pm

Well, if you're willing to pay $100, Play-Asia has some copies of Garegga from their latest classic game gathering. Includes the spine but no clue what condition their used games usually are.

theevilfunkster · Post by **theevilfunkster** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:39 pm

all the preowned games ive got from play-asia have been near mint with spine card

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 7:05 am

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... eName=WDVW

Why did I have to miss this? Why?

Ord · Post by **Ord** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 11:36 am

Neon wrote:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... eName=WDVW

Why did I have to miss this? Why?

Wow, someone got a bloody bargain there!

Diabollokus · Post by **Diabollokus** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:24 pm

lol I saw that auction myself but just couldn't be bothered

I'm all shmuped out at the moment.

Dartagnan1083 · Post by **Dartagnan1083** » Mon May 02, 2005 2:33 am

I paid $80 for my Garegga.
But I saw an LE of Garegga on Ebay 3 years ago for $200 BIN. Came in a HUGE black box with some extras. Wonder how much that will fetch today.

I think the factor could be an RS review on Gamefaqs that proclaims a large consensus of japanese shmupers favoring Garegga.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon May 02, 2005 3:11 am

Maybe I should sell mine. Definitely not that attached to it.

Dartagnan1083 · Post by **Dartagnan1083** » Mon May 02, 2005 3:25 am

I'd sell mine if I knew I wouldn't regret it.

Besides, If I do sell it I'll have to put up with Sage berating me for it on another forum.

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Mon May 02, 2005 8:26 am

Dartagnan1083 wrote:I paid $80 for my Garegga.
But I saw an LE of Garegga on Ebay 3 years ago for $200 BIN. Came in a HUGE black box with some extras.

Anyone got any pictures/further info on this?

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon May 02, 2005 9:27 am

Probably this:

Not an LE at all. Just a promotional CD carrier w/ the Garegga logo. Holds up to 6 CDs.

I actually bought something from this seller a long time ago. A beaten up Gekirindan I think. Nice enough person. You might be able to convince 'em to ship abroad.

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Mon May 02, 2005 9:44 am

Does it hold just CDs, or will it hold CDs in the boxes? What is the sellers ebay/yahoo jpn name?

Cthulhu · Post by **Cthulhu** » Mon May 02, 2005 3:23 pm

The "red ball" (or whatever, I forget the correct name) mode on the Saturn make that THE version to own for me. Not that I could play the PCB anyway.

Diabollokus · Post by **Diabollokus** » Mon May 02, 2005 6:48 pm

$200??? wow thats alot to pay for a great game + cd holder, $80 sounds more my style.

I'm going to leave buying it a month anyway, I'm rather worried about my silvergun as it could be lost in the post, terrible feeling about it, think it was posted to me on wedensday from england so its tuesday 2morrow and it better be there at my house!

theres a few gareggas on ebay at the mo, none of you guys are to bid though! lol.

Dartagnan1083 · Post by **Dartagnan1083** » Mon May 02, 2005 8:19 pm

It was different.
The seller put the Garegga Jewel Case outside the box, and it was much smaller. Could have been a mockup, but I know what I saw.