Capcom Retro shooters on the way?

DazTM · Post by **DazTM** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 9:40 pm

About a month back now Capcom revealed it was working on a new retro collection for the PS2 that would have around 20 games on it. While no games were mentioned, it was hinted that many of them had never been previously released on home consoles. Let's hope it includes stuff like Dimahoo and Eco fighters eh...

8 1/2 · Post by **8 1/2** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 9:43 pm

It's basically a compilation of all the Capcom Generations discs released for PSone and Saturn. The shmups (or shmup-like games) will at least include 1942, 1943, 1943 kai, Gunsmoke, Commando and Mercs.

Here's hoping they throw in a few more surprises before it ships.

DazTM · Post by **DazTM** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 9:47 pm

Are you positive on that? I know they've just been re-released on the PSone and have a website, but that isn't what Capcom hinted at to me.

MovingTarget · Post by **MovingTarget** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:03 pm

I just hope they dont forget about my PAL PS2

Wanderer · Post by **Wanderer** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:26 pm

8 1/2 wrote:It's basically a compilation of all the Capcom Generations discs released for PSone and Saturn. The shmups (or shmup-like games) will at least include 1942, 1943, 1943 kai, Gunsmoke, Commando and Mercs.

Here's hoping they throw in a few more surprises before it ships.

I think DazTM is referring to is a different release from the recently announced re-release of the Capcom Generations discs. I believe Capcom announced an upcoming retro collection in Oct-Nov. 2004 for the PS2, but i have heard no new info since.

Wanderer · Post by **Wanderer** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:31 pm

Actually after thinking about it for a sec, you probably are right 8 1/2, maybe the mysterious retro collection just turned out to be the capcom generation re-releases.

DazTM · Post by **DazTM** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:33 pm

Wanderer wrote:Actually after thinking about it for a sec, you probably are right 8 1/2, maybe the mysterious retro collection just turned out to be the capcom generation re-releases.

No, I've spoken to Capcom Europe about it and something is definately happening and it doesn't appear to be the re-releases. I was just hoping that you shmuppers would have known a little more.

Wanderer · Post by **Wanderer** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:58 pm

I just remember pure speculation awhile back that we could get older shmups like Varth, eco fighters, etc. with a Capcom retro collection. I believe the consensus was 1944 Loop Master, Dimahoo, Progears were too new for the collection.

Andi · Post by **Andi** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:21 am

Maybe we'll get to see Legendary Wings re-released! YEAH!

8 1/2 · Post by **8 1/2** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:22 am

Check out issue #144 of Game Informer. It's the new one with Sean Connery on the front. On page 26 they have a little pic of Bionic Commando, and the following quote:

"Capcom is bringing gamers Capcom Classics for the PS2. The collection will feature all of the goodness of the Capcom Generations compilation series (put out in Japan for the PSone and Saturn), featuring games like 1942, Ghosts n' Goblins, and more. Capcom is also tacking on Final Fight and Bionic Commando, along with a few extra surprises. "

BLAM! You can all officially freak-out now.

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:25 am

I'd still buy it...1943 kai is badass.

LoneSage · Post by **LoneSage** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:32 am

8 1/2 wrote: "Capcom is bringing gamers Capcom Classics for the PS2. The collection will feature all of the goodness of the Capcom Generations compilation series (put out in Japan for the PSone and Saturn), featuring games like 1942, Ghosts n' Goblins, and more. Capcom is also tacking on Final Fight and Bionic Commando, along with a few extra surprises. "

Yay, pretty much just straight-up of what the Japanese and Europeans got a few years ago, can't say I'm surprised with Capcom's 2D attitude today after playing the pile tat is Capcom Fighting Evolution; they better include a good deal more games in the collection.

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:56 am

LoneSage wrote:
8 1/2 wrote: "Capcom is bringing gamers Capcom Classics for the PS2. The collection will feature all of the goodness of the Capcom Generations compilation series (put out in Japan for the PSone and Saturn), featuring games like 1942, Ghosts n' Goblins, and more. Capcom is also tacking on Final Fight and Bionic Commando, along with a few extra surprises. "
Yay, pretty much just straight-up of what the Japanese and Europeans got a few years ago, can't say I'm surprised with Capcom's 2D attitude today after playing the pile tat is Capcom Fighting Evolution; they better include a good deal more games in the collection.

Final Fight and Bionic Commando weren't in the Japanese Capcom Generations collections. The arcade Bionic Commando has never been ported to consoles. Final Fight has great versions of GBA and SEGA CD, though I wouldn't mind seeing an arcade perfect version. Capcom Fighting Evolution doesn't mean the end of 2D for Capcom. Aren't you forgetting about Megaman X8 (2 1/2 D) and their GBA lineup? Viewtiful Joe is great too.

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:05 am

Is the Bionic Commando that came out for the PSX in Japan not a direct arcade port? I thought it was and thus the rarity and pretty high price.

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:11 am

Brian wrote:Is the Bionic Commando that came out for the PSX in Japan not a direct arcade port? I thought it was and thus the rarity and pretty high price.

That's Captain Commando, not Bionic Commando. Captain Commando is a Final Fight style beat 'em up. Bionic Commando is a side scrolling action game where a cyber arm is used to climb up platforms instead of jumping.

LoneSage · Post by **LoneSage** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:29 am

I didn't mean that CFE was the end of 2D for Capcom; just play the game and see what I mean...it's horrendous.

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:42 am

LoneSage wrote:I didn't mean that CFE was the end of 2D for Capcom; just play the game and see what I mean...it's horrendous.

Yeah, but from what I heard, Megaman Battle Network 5 might not be. I heard good things about the Megaman Zero games (I only have the first one, but I love it) and I heard good things about Megaman X8. Same difference or whatever. Capcom made some bad 2D games before, but CFE comes out and suddendly all these predictions pop up about no more good 2D games coming from Capcom. Just becuase Capcom messed up CFE doesn't mean that they'll mess up the upcoming compliation.

it290 · Post by **it290** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:59 am

Well, Capcom has made some bad 2d games in the past, but I don't think they ever made a bad 2d fighter before CFE.

Back OT a bit, though -- didn't the Generations series include Street Fighter II / SSF2T on one of the discs? If so, I wonder if those games will be included in the compilation as well. Somehow I doubt it, but..

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:05 am

One of the generation discs included SF2, SF2: CE and SF2: HF (aka Turbo). It did not include any in the 'super' series (IE, the CPS2 ones).

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 4:21 am

Well, if this collection is indeed coming out in the US, there's absolutely no mention of it in any PS2 release date schedule that I've seen, so I'll remain skeptical until I at least see a release date.

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 4:55 am

Brian wrote:Is the Bionic Commando that came out for the PSX in Japan not a direct arcade port? I thought it was and thus the rarity and pretty high price.

Yeah, first off, it's Captain Commando (a beat-em-up). Secondly, the PS version not quite arcade perfect since it only allows for 3-player play and not 4 players as in the arcade.

I didn't mean that CFE was the end of 2D for Capcom; just play the game and see what I mean...it's horrendous.

I dunno. I find the game a lot of fun. Nice to see Sonic Boom traps again.

One of the generation discs included SF2, SF2: CE and SF2: HF (aka Turbo). It did not include any in the 'super' series (IE, the CPS2 ones).

Yeah, Capcom Generations Vol. 5, already released in the US PS as Street Fighter Collection 2.

Well, Capcom has made some bad 2d games in the past, but I don't think they ever made a bad 2d fighter before CFE.

Final Fight Revenge, made by Capcom USA, was crappy. Star Gladiator and Power Stone weren't that great. Warzard/Red Earth sucks as a 2-player game as well.

it290 · Post by **it290** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 4:58 am

Well, I like Warzard, although I don't know how it is in 2 player. The rest you mentioned are all 3d fighters.

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:11 am

Err, sorry, forgot the 3D thing there. Well, arguably, FFR is still played on a 2D plane. Then, I'd mention Vampire Hunter 2, Vampire Savior 2 and Street Fighter Zero 3 Upper, all 3 games that practically nobody played. Arguably, Cyberbots isn't that great either but I'd probably get a lot of flak from calling it a bad game.

Yeah, Warzard is pretty fun in single play but in 2-players, the exp. system kills the balance. If somebody else is much higher in level than you, you'll get crushed. That was just a stupid inclusion. And at lv. 1 defaults, every character is missing moves. So it doesn't work at all.

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:51 am

The original Street Fighter wasn't that great.

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:26 am

Cool news but it will be must buy only is they put in games like 19XX and Varth too. Otherwise why not just buy the games themselves or the previous generation packs?

But if it's true there will be 20 or so games on the disc then I'm sure we will have a lot of goodies either way.

Progear I can understand since it was a joint release with Cave and I imagine there are some sticky rights issues. 1944 though, even though Raizing devved that you'd think they;d own it lock, stock and barrel since the 194X series is their baby.

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 7:11 am

I got a capsule toy in a Capcom Classics series, I'm guessing the collection might be something along those lines... BTW these games are OLD...

I only bought one toy, hoping it would be 1942... but I got Makaimura instead :\
The other ones I think were Senjou no ookami (I believe this is Mercs..? or an earlier one in the series), Exed Exes, Son son, and Sidearms.

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 7:45 am

iatneH wrote:I got a capsule toy in a Capcom Classics series, I'm guessing the collection might be something along those lines... BTW these games are OLD...

I only bought one toy, hoping it would be 1942... but I got Makaimura instead :\
The other ones I think were Senjou no ookami (I believe this is Mercs..? or an earlier one in the series), Exed Exes, Son son, and Sidearms.

I think Senjou no Ookami is Commando and Mercs is Senjou no Ookami 2. I like Makaimura/Ghosts 'n Goblins quite a bit. That game is hard!

chtimi-CLA · Post by **chtimi-CLA** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:18 am

iatneH wrote: I only bought one toy, hoping it would be 1942... but I got Makaimura instead :\

you don't want it? i'll pm you if you want to get rid of it, i'm a horrible ghost'n goblins fanboy.

Post by **Ghegs** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:24 am

iatneH wrote: I only bought one toy, hoping it would be 1942... but I got Makaimura instead :\
The other ones I think were Senjou no ookami (I believe this is Mercs..? or an earlier one in the series), Exed Exes, Son son, and Sidearms.

I checked Play-Asia and NCSX but didn't find this particular capsule toy collection, where'd you buy it? I wouldn't mind having a Side Arms toy...

sven666 · Post by **sven666** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:05 am

DazTM wrote: Let's hope it includes stuff like Dimahoo and Eco fighters eh...

not diagreening with your wishes but... can you really call dimahoo and ecofighters retro? isnt that a bit like calling the earliest PS2 games retro..
when i think of retro games its SNES and beyond.. not games released yesteryear..

one thinks a compilation with CPS2 games would be called Capcom arcade collection or something similar.. yes?..

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