Judgement Silversword: the end

druuna · Post by **druuna** » Fri May 11, 2007 5:24 pm

Don't watch this video if you think you might be able to finish the game!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVHfw7RQ3TM

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Sat May 12, 2007 1:42 am

Fuck me!! First time I've seen that, and those patterns look like wild fun.

An incredible marvel of programming too, that those complicated patterns and sprite numbers could be done on WSC.

40 million

And I thought I was hot stuff...

Blade · Post by **Blade** » Sat May 12, 2007 12:13 pm

Just curious but what what all systems was Judgment Silversword for anyway?

SFKhoa · Post by **SFKhoa** » Sat May 12, 2007 12:30 pm

Only for the Wonderswan. That's it.

Nakano · Post by **Nakano** » Sat May 12, 2007 12:55 pm

That looks stunning, hope a handheld Ketsui or a sequel to this comes out on the psp/ds. I'll probably track this down and get a wsc just for this.....

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Sat May 12, 2007 12:56 pm

its madness make game like this for handhelds X_X

SFKhoa · Post by **SFKhoa** » Sat May 12, 2007 12:57 pm

Nakano wrote:That looks stunning, hope a handheld Ketsui or a sequel to this comes out on the psp/ds. I'll probably track this down and get a wsc just for this.....

I wish you luck on finding a copy of Judgement Silversword for less than $100.

Nakano · Post by **Nakano** » Sat May 12, 2007 1:02 pm

SFKhoa wrote:
Nakano wrote:That looks stunning, hope a handheld Ketsui or a sequel to this comes out on the psp/ds. I'll probably track this down and get a wsc just for this.....
I wish you luck on finding a copy of Judgement Silversword for less than $100.

I know, I hesitated to buy BIG's one with the WSC for $125 shipped when I shoulda just paid it, damn!

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Sat May 12, 2007 1:09 pm

Nakano wrote:
SFKhoa wrote:
Nakano wrote:That looks stunning, hope a handheld Ketsui or a sequel to this comes out on the psp/ds. I'll probably track this down and get a wsc just for this.....
I wish you luck on finding a copy of Judgement Silversword for less than $100.
I know, I hesitated to buy BIG's one with the WSC for $125 shipped when I shoulda just paid it, damn!

I don't wish to sound rude, but you are a fool

Nakano · Post by **Nakano** » Sat May 12, 2007 2:00 pm

DJ Rectal Prolapse wrote:
Nakano wrote:
SFKhoa wrote: I wish you luck on finding a copy of Judgement Silversword for less than $100.
I know, I hesitated to buy BIG's one with the WSC for $125 shipped when I shoulda just paid it, damn!
I don't wish to sound rude, but you are a fool

Pixel_Outlaw · Post by **Pixel_Outlaw** » Sat May 12, 2007 6:23 pm

It looks great I just think the sprite blinking would drive me crazy.

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Sat May 12, 2007 6:40 pm

I refuse to watch this much further than the first few seconds as I really should try and finish this one day and see for myself what it's like.

Pixel_Outlaw wrote:It looks great I just think the sprite blinking would drive me crazy.

Trust me, it's not a big of issue while playing. (well not for me anyway).

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Sat May 12, 2007 6:50 pm

I like JS, but that WSC is so damn hard to see and I have never been able to track down a light for it.

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Sat May 12, 2007 7:05 pm

Brian wrote:I like JS, but that WSC is so damn hard to see and I have never been able to track down a light for it.

I remember someone on here posting a link to a site selling modded ones...

edit: just found it

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Sat May 12, 2007 8:40 pm

Yea, thanks for the mosh-mads link. I have tried in vain to buy one from him, he does not answer his emails.

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Sat May 12, 2007 9:44 pm

That's strange, I bought mine from mash-mods earlier this year and he always responded promptly to e-mails, and sent me frequent updates on the progress too. I went through the shopping cart process on the site first though, don't know if that made any difference.

He even offered me a partial refund due to the condition of the unit he received from his supplier, which I gladly accepted, the condition was perfectly satisfactory for me.

Anyway, for me going from WSC to SwanCrystal, the screen itself is the huge improvement, rather than the front-lighting. I still play under a desk lamp to get the high scores.

I paid $121 shipped for my copy of JSS (which happened to be the reprint). Damned if it isn't worth that price, it's certainly the best shooter on a handheld ever made, and I would venture to say one of the best shooters on any platform.

agony · Post by **agony** » Sat May 12, 2007 10:35 pm

31 area? o_O

Halloween Jack · Post by **Halloween Jack** » Mon May 14, 2007 8:26 pm

iatneH wrote:the screen itself is the huge improvement, rather than the front-lighting. I still play under a desk lamp to get the high scores.

This is interesting iatneH, in your view is it worth the additional money to get the frontlit version???

I've also ordered a WSC from mash-mods, but so far have only received an automated confirmation of the order - how long did it take them to turn around your order??

Cheers,

HJ

shinsage · Post by **shinsage** » Mon May 14, 2007 8:54 pm

Solar Striker's harder

Post by **Ghegs** » Tue May 15, 2007 1:47 pm

shinsage wrote:Solar Striker's harder

Hahah, no. I've cleared Solar Striker on the hidden Hard mode. JSS is much harder.

Sensato Kurai · Post by **Sensato Kurai** » Tue May 15, 2007 3:18 pm

I'll have to check Solar Striker sometime, not the first time I hear about it.

Didn't know there was a backlit WSC, going straight for the Swan Crystal seem like the option for me. Wish I could grab some headphone adapter though. Under a desk lamp at home, under neons at school or even better if you ask me, outside on a sunny day, that's where I train in order to beat iatneH's JS score.

Regarding that ending clip, after a few days of reading comments in this thread, I could not resist watching a few seconds of it. I doubt I'll ever 1CC JS but, as of now, I don't wanna know too much about what I haven't seen. The few seconds I've seen of the video reminded me of how I felt when I saw a clip of the mirror boss before I decided to grab the game. Simply insane!

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Tue May 15, 2007 7:04 pm

Halloween Jack wrote:This is interesting iatneH, in your view is it worth the additional money to get the frontlit version???

I would say it highly depends on how you are going to use it. This might sound a bit backwards, but if you are just going to play casually anywhere, the frontlight may be helpful (especially on the bus). However, if you want to do some serious score play, you'd best be sitting right under a lamp or outside in the sun. This kind of reflective screen on the Crystal is absolutely gorgeous in sunlight. The frontlight is comparable (though a tiny bit weaker IMO) than the old version GBA SP. I have to turn the brightness dial a little bit down from the maximum, otherwise there is a bit of noise interference in the audio.

I've also ordered a WSC from mash-mods, but so far have only received an automated confirmation of the order - how long did it take them to turn around your order??

Gregor was very quick with mine, he had the mod finished in 2 or 3 days and I had the unit in my hands before 2 weeks was up. This was from the initial order on the website, a couple of e-mails back and forth, and the package arriving at my door.

Sensato Kurai wrote:Didn't know there was a backlit WSC, going straight for the Swan Crystal seem like the option for me. Wish I could grab some headphone adapter though.

It is frontlit like the old GBA SP and it is not an official model from Bandai. Besides, I know you are serious enough to use proper lighting for score play :)
It's surprising about headphone adaptors, I remember when I checked 1 or 2 years ago, there would a lot of them on eBay which is why I kept delaying my purchase. But when I decided to get one early this year, there were only 1 or 2... It's very nice to have more fine control over the volume, and I actually play better with the headphones..!

I just really wish SwanCrystals came in pink. I thought about getting another modded pink WSC, but there's no way I can go back to the crappy screen of the WSC.

shinsage · Post by **shinsage** » Tue May 15, 2007 7:09 pm

Ghegs wrote:
shinsage wrote:Solar Striker's harder
Hahah, no. I've cleared Solar Striker on the hidden Hard mode. JSS is much harder.

Yeah, I was joking. I recently started playing SS again and was pretty surprised that, although it's incredibly simple, it can get pretty tough -- majorly in part because everything's black and white, so the bullets can be hard to see (Garegga's got nothin on this). That level 4 boss is a real bitch, too.

Halloween Jack · Post by **Halloween Jack** » Tue May 15, 2007 7:25 pm

iatneH wrote:Gregor was very quick with mine, he had the mod finished in 2 or 3 days and I had the unit in my hands before 2 weeks was up. This was from the initial order on the website, a couple of e-mails back and forth, and the package arriving at my door.

Sounds excellent iatneH, hope I get similar service

Incidentally, for interested UK shmuppers, Raven Games has the WSC for £25 a piece and Videogameimports has JSS for £75...

Cheers,

HJ

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Tue May 15, 2007 7:50 pm

Halloween Jack wrote:
iatneH wrote: Incidentally, for interested UK shmuppers, Raven Games has the WSC for £25 a piece

With having to buy a new one, trouble of shipping back and forth, having to pay for the mod itself + the fact that you only get a Wonderswan Color instead of a Crystal (and a Crystal´s screen is a huge +), you might be better off getting a modded Swancrystal one straight from the modders at $118...
That´s like £59 total or something.

well, that´s what I´d do anyway.

Would like to hear some more impressions on the mod though, before even considering it. (So please let us know what you think of it Halloween Jack!
The more impressions the merrier

)

Halloween Jack · Post by **Halloween Jack** » Tue May 15, 2007 7:58 pm

Super Laydock wrote: With having to buy a new one, trouble of shipping back and forth, having to pay for the mod itself + the fact that you only get a Wonderswan Color instead of a Crystal (and a Crystal´s screen is a huge +), you might be better off getting a modded Swancrystal one straight from the modders at $118...
That´s like £59 total or something.

well, that´s what I´d do anyway.

Thanks Super Laydock, sounds good advice - that's exactly what I've opted for

.

Also, I should have been a little clearer with my acronym, as £24.99 does get you a SwanCrystal, not a WSC as I incorrectly stated

.

Cheers,

HJ

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Tue May 15, 2007 8:21 pm

Too bad there was no re-release of this game, otherwise it might be cheaper.

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Tue May 15, 2007 8:23 pm

dave4shmups wrote:Too bad there was no re-release of this game, otherwise it might be cheaper.

Actually there was a re-release, which is why it isn´t more expensive than it is already!

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Tue May 15, 2007 8:25 pm

Is this some kind of bossrush shooter? The gameplay looks brilliant for a handheld, and seeing this many sprites onscreen and stuff like sprite rotation really makes me wonder why the sound is so basic. Also, Wikipedia tells me that this is a homebrew from 2004 - someone really needs to do something as good for the GBA or the DS.

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Tue May 15, 2007 8:29 pm

FrederikJurk wrote:Is this some kind of bossrush shooter? The gameplay looks brilliant for a handheld, and seeing this many sprites onscreen and stuff like sprite rotation really makes me wonder why the sound is so basic. Also, Wikipedia tells me that this is a homebrew from 2004 - someone really needs to do something as good for the GBA or the DS.

No it´s a fully fledged shooter. popcorns and everything there.
The sound is basic cause the Wonder swans speakers suck (dunno how it is with the headphones on though...)

Also it´s the winner of a programming competition organized by Bandai.
One of the prizes was a real release of the game on cartridge.
It was altered/improved over the original game before release though, hence the full name: Judgement Silversword: Rebirth edition.

There´s a caravan like mode game called Judgement Silversword:Cardinal Sins too, which is only playable on the system if you have a wonderwitch (player) and it´s technically even more amazing!