Oh my frickin god...CYVERN

tehkao · Post by **tehkao** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:07 am

Anyone else agree this is one of the most unknown, underrated, underappreciated, kick-ass shmups of all time???

Frankly I would have never known this unbelievable game existed if I didn't read about it here.

Thunder Force · Post by **Thunder Force** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:25 am

IIRC, the only other shmup Kaneko made was Aero Blasters, which happened to be one of the best horis for 2P co-op play in its era. Kaneko should have made more shmups...

tehkao · Post by **tehkao** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:31 am

They also made Super Star Soldier, didn't they? Another classic shmup.

Man Kaneko must be one of the most underrated shmup developers of all time.

Thunder Force · Post by **Thunder Force** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:19 am

Don't know about "underrated" but certainly one of the most forgotten...

chtimi-CLA · Post by **chtimi-CLA** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:17 am

they made heavy unit too i think (taito only published).

Post by **system11** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:24 pm

Super Star Soldier was Hudson

And yeah - Cyvern absolutely rocks, I'm meaning to get my hands on another one sometime.

Post by **Ghegs** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:52 pm

bloodflowers wrote:Super Star Soldier was Hudson

Check the menu screen in SSS, Kaneko's logo is clearly visible, so they had at least something to do with it.

Post by **system11** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:12 pm

http://www.classicgaming.com/thedump/tg ... prstr1.gif

Yup, you're right!

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:05 pm

Cyvern's got a lot of good things going for it, though I wish the bullets were a bit more visible...in any case, yeah, I do wish it got a console release or something like that, so more people would know about it. For some reason I always mentally compare it to the Vasara games...not 100 percent sure why.

captain ahar · Post by **captain ahar** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:53 pm

tehkao, i hate you. this is THE game i have been wanting to play for almost two years. and monitarily i am very far away from getting my cab/super gun + Kaneko Super Nova + Cyvern. so screw you for "saving" money, you're just playing Cyvern to mock me! Aren't you?

....
congratulations, i am way jealous (evidenced by how much time i wasted on the above paragraph

)[/i]

FatCobra · Post by **FatCobra** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:11 pm

Any shmup with dragons as selectable characters gets extra points in my book.

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:08 pm

At least back in the PCE days, Hudson just liscenced/distributed the Star Soldier series, Kaneko devved them and don't forget Star Parodia. One of the best comical shooters of all time even though it's painfully easy.

simian · Post by **simian** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 6:24 am

tehkao wrote:Anyone else agree this is one of the most unknown, underrated, underappreciated, kick-ass shmups of all time???

Frankly I would have never known this unbelievable game existed if I didn't read about it here.

Oh yeah, I just ... uh ... what's the general consensus on emulating here? Because, if it's cool with y'all, then I just started playing it a couple a days ago and it doth rock hard.

If emulating is hated here ... then ... uh ... I was fortunate enough to find it in an arcade nearby ... run by this old guy selling Mogwais ... he cackled at me every time I put a quarter in. Said something about buying my soul bit by bit and not to eat after midnight.

Yeah.

landshark · Post by **landshark** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 6:52 am

Emulation is like mastusrbation. If you can't get the real thing, it's the next best thing.

tehkao · Post by **tehkao** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:15 am

captain:
I played it on MAME.

simian:
I don't think anyone here is expecting everyone to own the original PCB of a shmup to have the right to talk about it. That would be fricking retarded.

BIG · Post by **BIG** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 2:24 pm

Cyvern seems pretty cool..been meaning to pick it up,myself. As far as Air Buster goes,I think it's one of the better 16-bit shmups out there. Underrated,it was,indeed...

BIG-

Nuke · Post by **Nuke** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:01 pm

I agree. Air Buster seldom gets the credit it deserves, and It predicts many things that were later to come (Border Down, anyone?)
Altough the "loading" times on the Mega Drive version can drive a man nuts.....

captain ahar · Post by **captain ahar** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:31 pm

tehkao wrote:captain:
I played it on MAME.

i am sure i could emuate it. but i refuse to emulate any games that i know i want/will love. (ex: ESPrade, Cyvern, Guwange, UFO Dangar, , and many more!)

NOTE: I will compromise my Guwange experience with a replay though (can't download the one from Leeram's FTP). Any offers?

DEL · Post by **DEL** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:07 pm

Mode 7 seems to have disappeared recently - He hosted the Cyvern Hi-Sc Thread & held the 10,000,000 record.

It is indeed an excellent game, as is the other Kaneko Super Nova System favourite - Sengeki Striker.

Raidenfighter Kirkov · Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:28 am

DEL wrote:Mode 7 seems to have disappeared recently - He hosted the Cyvern Hi-Sc Thread & held the 10,000,000 record.

It is indeed an excellent game, as is the other Kaneko Super Nova System favourite - Sengeki Striker.

You really cant compare the incredible CYVERN with this dumbass game Sengeki Striker.

Remember the soundeffect of the mainweapon ?
I think this must be the badest sample i have ever heard in a shmup.

Greetings
RFK

Post by **system11** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:46 am

Raidenfighter Kirkov wrote:
DEL wrote:Mode 7 seems to have disappeared recently - He hosted the Cyvern Hi-Sc Thread & held the 10,000,000 record.

It is indeed an excellent game, as is the other Kaneko Super Nova System favourite - Sengeki Striker.
You really cant compare the incredible CYVERN with this dumbass game Sengeki Striker.

Actually I'll speak in defense of Sengeki too - it's a very playable game, the weapon pods are interesting, it's smooth, stuff explodes - what's not to like?

Still surprised they didn't just call it Shienryu 2, that's obviously what it is...

Zelikazi · Post by **Zelikazi** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:19 pm

Heh....if you want to rail on Sengeki Striker's sound effects, that might prove troublesome as you approach the bosses and hear THEIR main guns...

It's pretty intimidating to hear them going off before they've even appeared on screen, to say nothing of the 3rd stage flying battleship which has its giant engines blasting simultaneously.

DEL · Post by **DEL** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:06 pm

RFK - As Bloodflowers wrote: "What's not to like" about Sengeki Striker??
Was it too difficult for you?

Raidenfighter Kirkov · Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:46 pm

Hi !

Ok i make it short and simple:

I have mentioned the soundeffects before. They are really annoying.

Graphic is substandard especially compared to a title like CYVERN produced on the same hardware platform.

Gameplay is boring. There is nothing i havent seen in another shooter.

Bossfights:Nahhh...the same procedure as every year, James.

Why wasting time with such a bloody game ? There are hundreds of better games out there.

Sengeki Striker or Cyvern ?
Its like chosing between heaven or hell !

Cheerio
RFK

landshark · Post by **landshark** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:39 pm

Nuke wrote:I agree. Air Buster seldom gets the credit it deserves, and It predicts many things that were later to come (Border Down, anyone?)
Altough the "loading" times on the Mega Drive version can drive a man nuts.....

I really like the level 2 boss. I like the effect the background gives to it.

DEL · Post by **DEL** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:53 pm

RFK - Apologies for playing Devils Advocate there!

Cyvern Vs Sengeki Striker is a matter of personal preference. I'm not putting Cyvern down, as you might have seen from the old Cyvern score rankings

.

We're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. I simply enjoy playing Sengeki Striker

Ps. "Same procedure as every year, James" - Got it - Dinner for one every Christmas in Germany, I believe.

Devilsheep · Post by **Devilsheep** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:08 pm

What's the big deal with Cyvern? It didn't do much for me...

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:57 pm

Since Mode 7 got that incredible score, did he put up a Superplay video of it anywhere? I've never seen an "all clear" type replay of Cyvern, but would like to.

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