The PS Vita Thread - Remote Play for all PS4 Games

[Skykid]

The savegame problem is annoying; I've been meaning to switch to US-PSN, too. But it makes sense that saves are tied to a PSN account; it's certainly better than tying them to the hardware itself. At least this way you can create backups and restore them on a different system.
I suggest you get a cheap 4GB memory card for your European account; they cost next to nothing now and should be big enough for a few saves (unless you have downloaded PSN content)..

I got a 4 gig with the system, but it's formatted now. I've kept a backup on my PC for just Dragon's Crown save data. If i ever decide to play it again i'll need another card, but I put 30 hours into it, may as well move onto something else. I'd get Ys if PSN was bloody working.

Otherwise that's it for the EU account, won't bother with it now.

To kill time I decided I may as well give Assassin's Creed 3 a look, it came free with the system so may as well.

Forgot how amusing current gen gaming is, and it's been ages since I tried out AC2. They're barely even games. The character is doing all these incredible acrobatics across the city, and all I'm doing is holding up on the stick and a shoulder button.

Challenging stuff.

[ZellSF]

Save games are NOT tied to a PSN account. You just won't be able to gain any trophies on the game until you delete your saves.

[Friendly]

Save games are NOT tied to a PSN account. You just won't be able to gain any trophies on the game until you delete your saves.

So you *can* copy them to your PC, reset your Vita, change the region by using a different PSN account and then copy them back? If saves are not linked to a PSN account, how does your Vita know if a save belongs to you?

[Skykid]

So you *can* copy them to your PC, reset your Vita, change the region by using a different PSN account and then copy them back?

No, you can't copy them back. They're tied to your PSN account. If ZellSF is correct, my backed up application data will hold my Dragon's Crown save, but it's inaccessible unless I revert to the EU account. I can't load them up on the US account and carry on playing DC, annoyingly.

[ZellSF]

Sony's Content Manager probably doesn't allow you to transfer it...

Retail game saves are not locked to one PSN account, but saves transferred by Sony's Content Manager might be.

[Skykid]

Sony's Content Manager probably doesn't allow you to transfer it...

Retail game saves are not locked to one PSN account, but saves transferred by Sony's Content Manager might be.

Content manager will not recognise any backed up data on an account of a different regon / different username, and therefore you can't use it to transfer saves back to memory.

If you know of a method where I can get my application data back onto the new US account without needing Content Manager, I'm all ears!

On other things, Friendly, this scheduled maintenance was meant to end at 8am on the 8th. I'm eight hours ahead of the UK, but I still can't get in, on the Vita or online. Have I got the timeframes wrong?

EDIT: I'm in now. Followed the error message to a database rebuild in safe mode if anyone ever has the same problem.

:sigh:

[ZellSF]

Sony's Content Manager probably doesn't allow you to transfer it...

Retail game saves are not locked to one PSN account, but saves transferred by Sony's Content Manager might be.

Content manager will not recognise any backed up data on an account of a different regon / different username, and therefore you can't use it to transfer saves back to memory.

Sorry, I was just saying that saves aren't account locked (see: retail games that save on the card itself), but Sony just won't allow you to transfer them (why?).

[Skykid]

Sorry, I was just saying that saves aren't region locked (see: retail games that save on the card itself), but Sony just won't allow you to transfer them (why?).

Because they're being dicks. Region free is cool, moving weenie save games around your accounts isn't cool. What if you move country - it happens!

After a whole day monkeying around, I'm about three clicks away from experiencing the legend that is Ys. Wish me luck.

(And I'm about to fall asleep.)

[ZellSF]

I like how Sony's network always gets slower after maintenance. It's like they don't get the meaning of the word.

[Skykid]

I like how Sony's network always gets slower after maintenance. It's like they don't get the meaning of the word.

I know you guys love your blue chips, but I haven't been fucked about like this since similar rigmaroll on my PS3. Since the last post I've been getting in, getting error codes, getting kicked out, getting in (repeat)

Is there maintenance on or what? It's either that or my console's buggered.

Anyway, finally gotten to redeem code, buying game (fingers crossed!)

EDIT: Well would you look at that, Ultimate Ghosts N' Goblins is in the US store! Definitely worth the switch, there are looooads more games in here.

[ZellSF]

PSN is being especially bad atm here too, so it's not a problem with your Vita.

[Skykid]

PSN is being especially bad atm here too, so it's not a problem with your Vita.

Good to know.

Just did the math, and the $20 code cost me £12 today. Ys cost £4.57. I believe it's listed on the EU store for £7.99. Just saved almost £3.50. Win.

Here's a good laugh:

SF Alpha 2 EU PSN: £7.99
SF Alpha 2 US PSN: $5.99 (£3.66)

That's less than half price. The shafting ever?


I have a thing about only downloading games I physically own, or intend to, so if Ys is good I'll have to get a PSP copy. On the plus I have a backlog of stuff still unfinished, like Vagrant Story, Arc the Lad and (shudder) MGS3 - but being able to access those games I already own on the other side of the world (and on an OLED) is rather convenient. It's cheaper than shipping them over, essentially.

Just a quick question, if I delete Ys to make space on the memory card, it's now tied to this PSN account and I can re-download at any point for free, correct? And my save data goes where?

[replayme]

Have you moved to China for good?

I was under the impression that you can download as many times as you want, but was then told that it's a max number of 3.

I know... I'm no help. I should really know this.

Edit: which Ys are you getting? I've heard 7 is especially good.

[replayme]

PSN is being especially bad atm here too, so it's not a problem with your Vita.

Good to know.

Just did the math, and the $20 code cost me £12 today. Ys cost £4.57. I believe it's listed on the EU store for £7.99. Just saved almost £3.50. Win.

Here's a good laugh:

SF Alpha 2 EU PSN: £7.99
SF Alpha 2 US PSN: $5.99 (£3.66)

That's less than half price. The shafting ever?


I have a thing about only downloading games I physically own, or intend to, so if Ys is good I'll have to get a PSP copy. On the plus I have a backlog of stuff still unfinished, like Vagrant Story, Arc the Lad and (shudder) MGS3 - but being able to access those games I already own on the other side of the world (and on an OLED) is rather convenient. It's cheaper than shipping them over, essentially.

Just a quick question, if I delete Ys to make space on the memory card, it's now tied to this PSN account and I can re-download at any point for free, correct? And my save data goes where?

UK PS1 Classics are on par with US prices (on average). But yes, US can be cheaper and has more stuff overall.

[replayme]

For new Vita owners, I really recommend a US PS+ subscription, ATM it gets you:

Gravity Rush
Hotline Miami
Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath
Soul Sacrifice
Uncharted: Golden Abyss
Wipeout 2048
Zen Pinball 2: Star Wars Pinball
(+ Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed this month)

Every single game on that list is worth trying. Yeah, you lose the games if you stop subscribing, but for 40$ a year (it's 50$, but there's often discounts) it's well worth it, especially if you also have a PS3. In addition to the games you also get discounts, cloud saves and auto updates.

Also get:

Dragon's Crown
Persona 4 Golden
Super Stardust Delta
Ys: Memories of Celceta

How long is this PS+ offer on for? I assume till the end of the month?

[ZellSF]

What PS+ offer? The games rotate one at a time each Tuesday. I don't know of any lower price offers / get three months free offers atm.

Just a quick question, if I delete Ys to make space on the memory card, it's now tied to this PSN account and I can re-download at any point for free, correct? And my save data goes where?

The save data is contained in the game bubble, if you delete it you also delete saves, updates and anything else related to the game. So yes, you'll have to backup the entire game to backup saves.

Any game you bought from PSN (or got through PS+) is kept in your download history and you can redownload them as often as you like.

3 is just the activation limit, how many Vita/Vita TV/PSPs you can have at the same time. They go under the same category, so if you have a Vita you can only limit two PSPs for example.

[Skykid]

Have you moved to China for good?

No, just until I get bored I expect. I'm here in a property mission.

I was under the impression that you can download as many times as you want, but was then told that it's a max number of 3.

If that's true it's terrible. If you pay for the game it should be tied to your account infinitely - otherwise it really is a rental.

Edit: which Ys are you getting? I've heard 7 is especially good.

Gotta start at the start (I&II). It's a series that tickled my interest when Super Play used to show screens of the SFC games - it was just completely out of reach back then.

UK PS1 Classics are on par with US prices (on average). But yes, US can be cheaper and has more stuff overall.

Actually, and after some digging through the webstore, they're not! They're remarkably unfairly different. Nearly everything in the EU store is more expensive than the US, and the US has abundant more choice. You can even get movies if you were so inclined, whereas the EU store doesn't even support the function.

If you have a lot invested in your EU Vita account, I understand the pain in switching. Personally, the only history I have with PSN is PS3 based, where it's as easy to switch accounts as ABC. For my Vita, just waiting for some bright spark to create a hack which will allow me to bring my Dragon's Crown save over and all is well.

[ZellSF]

I was under the impression that you can download as many times as you want, but was then told that it's a max number of 3.

If that's true it's terrible. If you pay for the game it should be tied to your account infinitely - otherwise it really is a rental.

It's not true, I've redownloaded lots of games 10+ times when switching games on my Vita. No one has ever run into a limit. Edit: as already said, 3's the activation limit, which you can can reset every once in a while.

[Skykid]

I was under the impression that you can download as many times as you want, but was then told that it's a max number of 3.

If that's true it's terrible. If you pay for the game it should be tied to your account infinitely - otherwise it really is a rental.

It's not true, I've redownloaded lots of games 10+ times when switching games on my Vita. No one has ever run into a limit. Edit: as already said, 3's the activation limit, which you can can reset every once in a while.

Sorry, educate me: activation limit means the number of consoles you can log into your PSN account with and re-download your games?

For example, a game under one PSN user account can be downloaded on a PS3/PS4/Vita - and then that's it, no more? I assume that's to stop guys sharing DLs with all their friends?

[Friendly]

You can now have 3 active portable devices linked to the same PSN account, and download the games you have purchased online to all three devices.
And yes, you can re-download anything from your download list as often as you please.

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Heads up: While browsing the Playstation Store, I noticed that there are currently 2 free games in the Playstation Mobile section, as a holiday gift: Gun Commando and MononokeSlashdown

[Skykid]

Heads up: While browsing the Playstation Store, I noticed that there are currently 2 free games in the Playstation Mobile section, as a holiday gift: Gun Commando and MononokeSlashdown

I downloaded them three days ago and they're both dreadfully shit, don't even bother wasting your time.

[Friendly]

Too late, I had already downloaded both when I posted. I just tried Gun Commando, and it's embarrassingly bad. I find it hard to believe that this is actually sold for money; I would be ashamed if I was its author.

[Skykid]

Too late, I had already downloaded both when I posted. I just tried Gun Commando, and it's embarrassingly bad. I find it hard to believe that this is actually sold for money; I would be ashamed if I was its author.

Wait until you try Slashdown, it's worse. I'm embarrassed they're being advertised as freebies.

[ZellSF]

If that's true it's terrible. If you pay for the game it should be tied to your account infinitely - otherwise it really is a rental.

It's not true, I've redownloaded lots of games 10+ times when switching games on my Vita. No one has ever run into a limit. Edit: as already said, 3's the activation limit, which you can can reset every once in a while.

Sorry, educate me: activation limit means the number of consoles you can log into your PSN account with and re-download your games?

Yes. I think it is:

3 for portables combined (PSP, Vita, Vita TV).
2 for PS3s.
1 for PS4 + You can play and download your games wherever you're logged in online.

You can deactivate consoles at will to activate new ones (games will obviously stop working on a deactivated console) if you have access to them. If you don't, you can periodically deactivate ALL your devices from the PSN website.

Overall it's a pretty reasonable system, though I think the handheld activation limit should be even higher with multiple PSP and Vita models.

[replayme]

Have you moved to China for good?

No, just until I get bored I expect. I'm here in a property mission.

I was under the impression that you can download as many times as you want, but was then told that it's a max number of 3.

If that's true it's terrible. If you pay for the game it should be tied to your account infinitely - otherwise it really is a rental.

Edit: which Ys are you getting? I've heard 7 is especially good.

Gotta start at the start (I&II). It's a series that tickled my interest when Super Play used to show screens of the SFC games - it was just completely out of reach back then.

UK PS1 Classics are on par with US prices (on average). But yes, US can be cheaper and has more stuff overall.

Actually, and after some digging through the webstore, they're not! They're remarkably unfairly different. Nearly everything in the EU store is more expensive than the US, and the US has abundant more choice. You can even get movies if you were so inclined, whereas the EU store doesn't even support the function.

If you have a lot invested in your EU Vita account, I understand the pain in switching. Personally, the only history I have with PSN is PS3 based, where it's as easy to switch accounts as ABC. For my Vita, just waiting for some bright spark to create a hack which will allow me to bring my Dragon's Crown save over and all is well.

So does that mean that you will be considering China as your permanent place of stay in future?

Regarding my Vita... I have the following games via PSN+:
Gravity Rush
Uncharted
Guacamelee
Sonic Racing Transformed
Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus
MGS HD
GTA Liberty City Stories
Oddworld Strangers Wrath
Touch my Katamari
SF X Tekken
Stealth Inc
Jak and Daxter trilogy
Little Kings Story
Unit 13
Sine Mora
Thomas was alone
Virtue's last reward
Puddle


I've also bought the following via UK PSN:
Fear Effect 2
Resident Evil 2
FF 8
FF 9
Hotline Miami (Vita)

[Skykid]

So does that mean that you will be considering China as your permanent place of stay in future?

I refer back to my first answer.

Regarding my Vita... I have the following games via PSN+:
/List

I've also bought the following via UK PSN:
/List

Well if you have a PS+ acc for a year, you're tied in anyway. If it expires and you're done with those games, you could always region switch. Long haul though if you have a while until expiry.

The games you bought on PSN... I wouldn't like to think how much the savings would have been if bought on the US store, but I'd hazard somewhere in the £15 - £20 region.

Been playing Ys today - it's superb, I love it. And yes, the PSP version surely has the most going for it. 3 soundtrack options, 360 degree movement, and beautiful graphics. As soon as the bilinear filtering goes on, it's remarkably lovely.

Ramming into things: no-idea how that came about, but once you grind for thirty minutes it becomes a highly unique and rather enjoyable way to zip through the game pinballing off everything. Very much enjoying it at the moment.

Does anyone know, since these are packaged together, if the stats or general character info carries over to Ys II?

[dunpeal2064]

I don't think info carries over, but I could be wrong on that.

Have you fought the first boss yet? I really enjoyed the boss battles in that game (Although one of them can be a bit of a nightmare)

[Skykid]

I don't think info carries over, but I could be wrong on that.

Have you fought the first boss yet? I really enjoyed the boss battles in that game (Although one of them can be a bit of a nightmare)

I'm at the first shrine. Only boss I fought was a mid-boss reaper thing who teleports in rows of blue smoke. Three headbutts and he was off.

I think I might be a little ahead of the game at this point, since I ran around bopping things until I got to level three, skipped the first armour and bought the mk.2 outright, and purchased the mk.2 sword.

In the lower levels of the shrine there's no health recharge though, and those big heads are kind of deadly, so need to be a little more strategic at the moment.

[replayme]

So does that mean that you will be considering China as your permanent place of stay in future?

I refer back to my first answer.

Regarding my Vita... I have the following games via PSN+:
/List

I've also bought the following via UK PSN:
/List

Well if you have a PS+ acc for a year, you're tied in anyway. If it expires and you're done with those games, you could always region switch. Long haul though if you have a while until expiry.

The games you bought on PSN... I wouldn't like to think how much the savings would have been if bought on the US store, but I'd hazard somewhere in the £15 - £20 region.

Been playing Ys today - it's superb, I love it. And yes, the PSP version surely has the most going for it. 3 soundtrack options, 360 degree movement, and beautiful graphics. As soon as the bilinear filtering goes on, it's remarkably lovely.

Ramming into things: no-idea how that came about, but once you grind for thirty minutes it becomes a highly unique and rather enjoyable way to zip through the game pinballing off everything. Very much enjoying it at the moment.

Does anyone know, since these are packaged together, if the stats or general character info carries over to Ys II?

All the PS1 Classics (apart from Fear Effect 2) were bought in a sale. RE2, FF8 and FF9 were £4 each. Fear Effect 2 was full price.

Hotline Miami was also in the sale.

So far, my US PSN games are Castlevania SotN and FF7. I bought those full price ($9.99 each) too.

There are a few more games on the US PSN account I want, but I also really want the JPN PSN only Einhander.

[dunpeal2064]

Nice. Yeah, you are a bit more decked out than I was for that fight. Once you get the hang of ramming enemies, it really does get addicting. Some of the most fun I've had grinding.

Was there an option to start Ys II right off the bat? I really want to get into it, but the Turbo version requires that I play through Ys I again. Granted, if I pick up the port, I'll most likely end up playing from the beginning anyways to check out the differences, so I guess its not too important. More curious than anything.