Anyone have 1080p footage of the N64 with XRGB-mini

[andykara2003]

Hi, Does anyone have well-captured 1080p footage of an RGB modded N64 running through an XRGB-mini (without scanlines & upscaled to 1080p)?


Come to think of it, it would be an awesome resource to have a set of high quality 1080p videos from the XRGB-mini using various consoles with all the various settings for each console - only because buying one's quite a big purchase & it would be good to be able to preview it beforehand.

[Smashbro29]

Hi, Does anyone have well-captured 1080p footage of an RGB modded N64 running through an XRGB-mini (without scanlines & upscaled to 1080p)?


Come to think of it, it would be an awesome resource to have a set of high quality 1080p videos from the XRGB-mini using various consoles with all the various settings for each console - only because buying one's quite a big purchase & it would be good to be able to preview it beforehand.

Usually with all the systems pre Gamecube era (that aren't 2-d) I'm assuming most people use 720p for the scanlines.

[andykara2003]

Hi, Does anyone have well-captured 1080p footage of an RGB modded N64 running through an XRGB-mini (without scanlines & upscaled to 1080p)?


Come to think of it, it would be an awesome resource to have a set of high quality 1080p videos from the XRGB-mini using various consoles with all the various settings for each console - only because buying one's quite a big purchase & it would be good to be able to preview it beforehand.

Usually with all the systems pre Gamecube era (that aren't 2-d) I'm assuming most people use 720p for the scanlines.

With the N64, some people prefer 1080p with no scanlines - but what I'm talking about is the having the possibility of basically being able to preview the XRGB mini across a wide range of settings and consoles before buying one - on your 50" screen in hi-def. It would be useful as it's a big purchase to make and I'm not sure how easy it would be to return it if you're not happy with the results.

Probably too much to ask though Maybe I'll do it myself one day if I buy one.

[Smashbro29]

Hi, Does anyone have well-captured 1080p footage of an RGB modded N64 running through an XRGB-mini (without scanlines & upscaled to 1080p)?


Come to think of it, it would be an awesome resource to have a set of high quality 1080p videos from the XRGB-mini using various consoles with all the various settings for each console - only because buying one's quite a big purchase & it would be good to be able to preview it beforehand.

Usually with all the systems pre Gamecube era (that aren't 2-d) I'm assuming most people use 720p for the scanlines.

With the N64, some people prefer 1080p with no scanlines - but what I'm talking about is the having the possibility of basically being able to preview the XRGB mini across a wide range of settings and consoles before buying one - on your 50" screen in hi-def. It would be useful as it's a big purchase to make and I'm not sure how easy it would be to return it if you're not happy with the results.

Probably too much to ask though Maybe I'll do it myself one day if I buy one.

Once I get my new capture card I'll take some video for you, should be here in a few days.

[andykara2003]

Once I get my new capture card I'll take some video for you, should be here in a few days.

Wow thanks, much appreciated! I'm specifically interested in N64 so would it be OK to get some at 1080p and 720p both with and without scanlines?

[Smashbro29]

Small update on this, I needed a new part for my X-Capture 1 to function so this isn't gonna get done until Thursday-ish. Hope that's ok.

[andykara2003]

Small update on this, I needed a new part for my X-Capture 1 to function so this isn't gonna get done until Thursday-ish. Hope that's ok.

Thanks - no that's great, incredibly appreciated

[eightbitminiboss]

Here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82Yos3iF1cw

I just received my XCAPTURE-1 earlier and have been messing around with it and just happened to see your thread. I don't have a proper recording setup as I mostly just stream so here's what I could scrape up in the middle of the night with lack of sleep. Recorded with Videokeeper 2 and uploaded to YouTube directly. At least it's something until Smashbro29 gets his stuff up.

Edit: 1080p should be processed soon as of this post.

[andykara2003]

Here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82Yos3iF1cw

I just received my XCAPTURE-1 earlier and have been messing around with it and just happened to see your thread. I don't have a proper recording setup as I mostly just stream so here's what I could scrape up in the middle of the night with lack of sleep. Recorded with Videokeeper 2 and uploaded to YouTube directly. At least it's something until Smashbro29 gets his stuff up.

Edit: 1080p should be processed soon as of this post.

Thanks very much for that - really appreciated & clears a couple of things up

Here's my thoughts - tell me if I'm wrong about any of this, I'm not an expert by any stretch of the imagination..

1: To me, it looks like the N64 definitely needs scanlines as it looks too blocky without. I'd be really interested to see light, medium & dark scanlines on this game to see the varying effects.

2: I'm thinking that Youtube uses too much compression in their 1080p video (or any video), so you never get a true 1:1 view of exactly what the mini is putting out (I'm viewing it on my 46" plasma). I think the only way to view it properly would be from a properly encoded video file with minimal compression, uploaded using something like Dropbox (big file!).

3: There seems to be some 'chequered' interference in the picture. Just wondered where this came from - maybe in the capture process?

Cheers.

[eightbitminiboss]

Here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82Yos3iF1cw

I just received my XCAPTURE-1 earlier and have been messing around with it and just happened to see your thread. I don't have a proper recording setup as I mostly just stream so here's what I could scrape up in the middle of the night with lack of sleep. Recorded with Videokeeper 2 and uploaded to YouTube directly. At least it's something until Smashbro29 gets his stuff up.

Edit: 1080p should be processed soon as of this post.

Thanks very much for that - really appreciated & clears a couple of things up

Here's my thoughts - tell me if I'm wrong about any of this, I'm not an expert by any stretch of the imagination..

1: To me, it looks like the N64 definitely needs scanlines as it looks too blocky without. I'd be really interested to see light, medium & dark scanlines on this game to see the varying effects.

2: I'm thinking that Youtube uses too much compression in their 1080p video (or any video), so you never get a true 1:1 view of exactly what the mini is putting out (I'm viewing it on my 46" plasma). I think the only way to view it properly would be from a properly encoded video file with minimal compression, uploaded using something like Dropbox (big file!).

3: There seems to be some 'chequered' interference in the picture. Just wondered where this came from - maybe in the capture process?

Cheers.

I'm no expert either but here are my observations.

Regarding point #1: Scanlines will help, it looked better at 720p with the proper scanlines. A good example is Paper Mario as the sprites without scanlines look really blocky or have odd shapes on the black outline on the characters.

Regarding point #2: That much is true, YouTube compressed the crap out of everything. Videokeeper 2 recorded the clip at 20000kbps. I couldn't really check on YouTube probably because I was looking at it through HTML5, but it appeared the bitrate went down for sure. I'll see if I can dump it somewhere, the clip is over 500 megs. I did try a quick reencode last night before sleeping and it did reduce file size but overall picture went darker for some reason.

Regarding point #3: Could be cable, I've seen it happen on my SNES with a badly made cable. It didn't look as bad on my TV as it did with the capture. Potentially dithering, but I doubt it.

[andykara2003]

I'm no expert either but here are my observations.

Regarding point #1: Scanlines will help, it looked better at 720p with the proper scanlines. A good example is Paper Mario as the sprites without scanlines look really blocky or have odd shapes on the black outline on the characters.

Regarding point #2: That much is true, YouTube compressed the crap out of everything. Videokeeper 2 recorded the clip at 20000kbps. I couldn't really check on YouTube probably because I was looking at it through HTML5, but it appeared the bitrate went down for sure. I'll see if I can dump it somewhere, the clip is over 500 megs. I did try a quick reencode last night before sleeping and it did reduce file size but overall picture went darker for some reason.

Regarding point #3: Could be cable, I've seen it happen on my SNES with a badly made cable. It didn't look as bad on my TV as it did with the capture. Potentially dithering, but I doubt it.

Nice one - I would happily download 500M if you can find somewhere to dump it Don't want to put you out tho'.

As to the cable, I bought an RGB cable from Console goods (supposed to be good) that gave this pattern. I ended up paying quite a bit for an official Gamecube cable that works with my mod which sorted it.

[eightbitminiboss]

I'm no expert either but here are my observations.

Regarding point #1: Scanlines will help, it looked better at 720p with the proper scanlines. A good example is Paper Mario as the sprites without scanlines look really blocky or have odd shapes on the black outline on the characters.

Regarding point #2: That much is true, YouTube compressed the crap out of everything. Videokeeper 2 recorded the clip at 20000kbps. I couldn't really check on YouTube probably because I was looking at it through HTML5, but it appeared the bitrate went down for sure. I'll see if I can dump it somewhere, the clip is over 500 megs. I did try a quick reencode last night before sleeping and it did reduce file size but overall picture went darker for some reason.

Regarding point #3: Could be cable, I've seen it happen on my SNES with a badly made cable. It didn't look as bad on my TV as it did with the capture. Potentially dithering, but I doubt it.

Nice one - I would happily download 500M if you can find somewhere to dump it Don't want to put you out tho'.

As to the cable, I bought an RGB cable from Console goods (supposed to be good) that gave this pattern. I ended up paying quite a bit for an official Gamecube cable that works with my mod which sorted it.

Here you go: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5O3eK ... sp=sharing

There's an arrow you can click on to download the actual file.

[andykara2003]

Here you go: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5O3eK ... sp=sharing

There's an arrow you can click on to download the actual file.

Thanks so much for bothering to do this - I'm downloading now.

Smashbro29 - If it's not too late, would it be OK to capture light and medium scanlines on this game instead of non-scanlined as we've established that the N64 needs at least some scanline definition?

[CkRtech]

Thanks for doing this, eightbitminiboss. Does your N64 use an amp similar to the 7314DR from http://retrorgb.com/n64rgbmod.html, or did you build your own using transistors/resistors/capacitors?

I have an xrgb-mini, and I am considering doing the RGB mod on my stock N64.

[eightbitminiboss]

Thanks for doing this, eightbitminiboss. Does your N64 use an amp similar to the 7314DR from http://retrorgb.com/n64rgbmod.html, or did you build your own using transistors/resistors/capacitors?

I have an xrgb-mini, and I am considering doing the RGB mod on my stock N64.

I believe so. I only wired up 3 points inside my N64 and bought a SCART cable with the amp circuit built into the housing of the cable from retro-accessories when they had a website.

Edit: Perhaps I'll change it up later on down the line, apparently there's a fix to the cross-hatching seen in the capture according to mmmonkey that I apparently glossed over the first time I read the page.