drauch wrote:
Dude...
The irony of what? Where are all these accusations of elitism coming from? I'm no stranger to self-deprecation, and I'm quite vocal of my lack of effort all over this forum. Dunno why you assume elitism through my annoyance.
I don't really understand what you're not understanding at this point. I've admitted multiple things at this point that should be clear:
A.) I don't hate Touhou
B.) I've admitted to "rash generalization" and "stereotyping," yet you're still so set on "drauch hates ANYONE who plays Touhou! Not one person that plays Touhou has ever done anything positive for shmups!"
Notice us in the high scores forum?! Haha... what? Again, you're quite set on Touhou fans being some sort of unique race of humans, yet you're arguing about me stereotyping them. Believe it or not, but I don't just skim every other user to find out if they are a Touhou fan, then lump them in a category for future belittling. Because I don't care. But I obviously hate them all.
This talk of expertise and skill, high scores, "contributing" to shmups, and general talk of we, like the Touhou fanbase is something of a minority group is quite perplexing and a tad silly. If you measure worth by skill and contribution by inputs in a high score section of a forum you may want to take a step back and evaluate your own obvious elitist attitude.
Are you still half asleep? Your accusations make no sense because I was following along with
your post. If you you really don't understand why I used the term "we" or "us" It's because you're the one who generalized in the first place. How was I otherwise supposed to talk to you on your own level? How was I supposed to defend people that aren't myself, without excluding myself since I was also targeted by your generalization, otherwise?
Since you backtracked, this bickering is completely worthless. If you're going to keep this attitude, I don't have anything more to say here except that I thought you were at least above trolling. Yes, you've admitted that you were stereotyping... so now what, now I'm the bad guy? Maybe
you should quit with that useless attitude, and for crying out loud, I didn't say "us" or "we" for the reasons you're saying.
In fact, everything you're accusing me of here is what I criticized you to begin with, and I was criticizing you by taking your posts very literally. Apparently that was wrong of me? Apparently worth by contributions don't exist, so then my follow up question to you, my rash friend is what in the world is wrong with the players that come here and don't contribute? Nothing, I suppose? That's clearly the correct answer and that means that you were in the wrong to begin with.
drauch wrote:chum wrote:If we have to make it known that we care about shmups, then why shouldn't he?
Just saw this.
DUDE. Get over it! Nobody is making you and whoever the hell else do anything. There is no proving yourself. Nobody cares! Except obviously me, or so you think. You're doing most of this to yourself... again.
What was that again about delusions?
This isn't how arguments work. You don't just make things up out of thin air and trick people into thinking that you hold a stance that you apparently don't. Actually, that's called trolling. You troll.
Yeah, Touhou is very well known, but is it actually bringing in shmup players for other games? I'm not seeing it, and when I do, it's the... er, questionable members we get on a frequent basis that post a few times, scoff at Fire Shark, then disappear back into the abyss of the internet in search for more doujin.
Again, who are these people? Where are you seeing them? This statement is one reason why I've called you delusional. You're trying to make this about
me now when that is a very silly thing to do for reasons already explained.