replayme wrote:
I think your love for your 3DS is clouding your judgement.
I don't have any love for my 3DS unless it produces good games. There's not much on the horizon bar LTTP2, that's why I bought a Vita.
As a console hardware manufacturer, Nintendo haven't been relevant for about 10 years. The Wii paid off, yes, but that still doesn't change the fact that it was a fluke. The Wii U is making people realise that.
This coming generation is finally making people realise, and sales testify to this, that Nintendo are outclassed and outmatched when it comes to hardware.
These statements feel based on what you would prefer to be the truth, rather than what is the truth. Nintendo's
policy is to be outmatched on hardware and deliver on games - they're one of (if not the) only company who chooses to sell hardware for profit. If that format made the Wii a fluke, that would also go for every console preceding it. Whether or not, now the gimmick has faded, it's a strategy that will continue to work is for the future to decide.
Edit: and correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you dismiss the Vita interface as being too "kiddie", when you're now using the very same argument to justify your reasoning?
No, I dismissed the interface as terribly ugly and lesser than the company's former XMB.
The sales (and third party support) of the Wii U testify to the fact that "under the TV" console hardware is not Nintendo's strength, and this achilles heel actually hampers their AAA First Party software division (both in profitability and software sales penetration).
The Wii U doesn't single-handedly signify a track record. I don't know what the point is in so regularly referring to it.
Jonathan Ingram wrote:
That`s not true. Nintendo`s share prices are a fraction of what they traded for a few years ago. One more failure like a Wii U coupled with an underperforming handheld and you`ll see the mushroom company making apps for iOS and Android exclusively.
The share prices are a result of the Wii U's underperformance, can fall and rise in an hour based on a single event, and don't reflect the savings balance. If stock prices were an issue, Sony would have folded ten years ago when their shareholders saw the first major annual losses crop up. The Wii U hardware is hardly bank breaking and the handheld division is in steady profit: tenfold with the release of the new Pokemon couplet. I doubt they've frittered all the savings away of the last half-decade.
How Sony is doing is irrelevant to the situation Nintendo is in right now. It`s easier for a giant corporation that has its hands in pretty much everything to absorb the losses, trim the fat and reinvest.
Well absorbing losses is their forte. They're still going with a $9 Billion loss this year, up double from the last, and double from the year before that. The shareholders are ready to bail, and that's bad for business, but there's no sign of a return. In-fact, by your rationale, that would make Microsoft vastly better off than Sony, since they still generate enormous profits in other divisions that their competitors do not.
This isn't a console war, it's business, and with the Japanese economy completely fucked, Sony need more than a success with the PS4 to rectify their fiscal outlook because the gaming market is increasingly shrinking in the face of mobiles - and that affects all parties. There are plenty more Sony radicals on this site than there are for any of the competitors, but that has absolutely nothing to do with business and everything to do with allegiance, and half the stuff I keep hearing is pie-in-the-sky and doesn't take into account significant factors such as losses in other sectors and the Vita performing somewhere around Game Gear standards.
Personally I don't see a way back unless they actually concede defeat to the Korean electronic giants and do more than trim fat: they need to excise any unprofitable divisions over the 5yr mark because the Yen will never allow them to produce goods at a cheap enough cost to be genuinely competitive.
Their practices and lack of mobility have been criticised widely across various economic journals for years, however, so nothing new.
Friendly wrote:Teufel_in_Blau wrote:
We will get shit like this Resogun
So you have played it then, or are you talking out of your arse?
The latter of course, Resogun is terrific.