is STGT happening?

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Maybe I should actually have done my long considered STGT Gaiden this summer.
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STGT is all this site is good for

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Ruldra wrote:Tatsujin Oh or bust. I want to see someone other than Sikraiken beating it.
yeah i'm kinda mad i can only get to stage 4 in that game and v v (which is easier)... not that stage 3 doesn't give me trouble in both games. iBad.exe
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I'm bumping this because I seriously would like an answer to the question. Is it happening? I was really excited about participating for the first time this year :(
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Not sure why dex would withhold this anyway! Promised multiple times, never happened. The least he could've done was say that he wouldn't be hosting and perhaps let someone else hold it in his stead.
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Formless God wrote:Sine Mora.
Yes, because scoring systems that forbid you from using any of the game's highly-touted unique mechanics make me jizz DDP lasers.

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I'm also surprised STGT hasn't happened yet. I was looking forward to all the complaining, none of which would be from me because I wouldn't enter.
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Yes, everyone totally wants to spend a chunk of their free time with games they'd rather not play for a little over one month.
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oh I just discovered this is a thing here.

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is it still a thing here?
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Apparently not, since we're half way through October now. It must have been taken over by the soup nazi.

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I see. Is it because no one is interested in participating or no one is interested in organizing?
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Usual organizer's been busy. I ran an STGT not all that long ago, so he probably figured it wouldn't be missed.
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Aw okay.

If there's no opposition to having a noob go on a test run rebooting this, I'm up for organizing a STGT Redux sort of thing.

I can't manage having to organize teams and multiple rounds and such though, so if ever, it will be a simple individual tournament, and will feature one game a week.

Maybe until such time you or the usual organizer chooses to resume the standard STGT?
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It's really not easy to run one. I'd recommend just waiting until my next one (few months until, probably), or until dex finally decides he's ready to run his.
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What would be the most difficult parts of running one?

From my point of view, there would just be the matter of what game to play for the week, then people submit their high scores, then all the high scores are ranked into an ordered list.
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Assigning points, keeping track of peoples' positions, any scoring methods within the tourney itself, maintaining peoples' placings, etc. isn't easy when you have 50+ entrants unless you have or can make the right tools ;)
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Actually, that's why I want to have a crack at it.

I may not be good at playing shmups (yet?), but I think I'm fairly good at organizing things and keeping track of stuff that involve statistics and numbers in general. I'm a computer programmer by trade, so if there are tools that need to be made, I feel like I can make them. So between programming tools and utilizing good ol' MS Excel, I think I'm up for it. :)
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Aha, I got the impression that you weren't a programmer. Yeah, if you can do some simple number crunching and deal with a SQL database, it's pretty easy at that point :lol:

In that case, go for it! Don't be afraid to try out cool scoring mechanics inside the actual tournament itself, they're surprisingly interesting.

Also don't be afraid to "break the mold" and give alternate rulesets and special challenges (stuff like ESPGaluda: Kakusei Overmode only, or Stage 1 Score Attack, and whatnot). People like those.
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heisenbergman: I've long had an idea for an alternate STGT. Maybe we could cooperate on this.
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trap15 wrote:Aha, I got the impression that you weren't a programmer. Yeah, if you can do some simple number crunching and deal with a SQL database, it's pretty easy at that point :lol:

In that case, go for it! Don't be afraid to try out cool scoring mechanics inside the actual tournament itself, they're surprisingly interesting.

Also don't be afraid to "break the mold" and give alternate rulesets and special challenges (stuff like ESPGaluda: Kakusei Overmode only, or Stage 1 Score Attack, and whatnot). People like those.
Would it be too boring if I don't try and implement cool scoring mechanics? I was thinking just a straightforward scoring system where the top scorer gets a maximum of 100 points, and then the rest would get points as a percentage of that top score. For example (I got the Players & Score from one of your old threads, then computed the score I'm proposing via Excel):

R=Player & Score & Points R= chum & 7993530 & 100.00 R= Zerst & 7373300 & 92.24 R= jepjepjep & 5883120 & 73.60 R= clp & 5872040 & 73.46 R= Erppo & 5362480 & 67.09 R= Nifty & 4932760 & 61.71 R= ciox & 4623620 & 57.84 R= TrippyCake & 4362410 & 54.57 R= shadowbringer & 3740900 & 46.80 R=chummademeregister & 3704530 & 46.34 R= Deca & 3696840 & 46.25 R= KevinDDR & 3622170 & 45.31 R= DocHauser & 3588030 & 44.89 R= trap15 & 3493280 & 43.70 R= Pinehed & 3271440 & 40.93 R= THD & 3182740 & 39.82 R= tinotormed & 2867820 & 35.88 R= Zengeku3 & 2832640 & 35.44 R= Aleksei & 2789380 & 34.90 R= coffeejoerx & 2689990 & 33.65 R= dunpeal2064 & 2674190 & 33.45 R= Obscura & 2628540 & 32.88 R= Skyline & 2609770 & 32.65 R= Uzumakijl & 2590110 & 32.40 R= Iori Branford & 2583110 & 32.32 R= ColonelFatso & 2553780 & 31.95 R= KAI & 2495250 & 31.22 R= ACSeraph & 2472900 & 30.94 R= lilmanjs & 2451780 & 30.67 R= MOSQUITO FIGHTER & 2448490 & 30.63 R= oboewan42 & 2438620 & 30.51 R= Yazphier & 2437720 & 30.50 R= Softdrink 117 & 2358680 & 29.51 R= cskcsk & 2307940 & 28.87 R= CptRansom & 2303020 & 28.81 R= fenyxofshadows & 2292840 & 28.68 R= TheSoundofRed & 2216980 & 27.73 R= IDruggedShamu & 2213030 & 27.69 R= 1up & 2173980 & 27.20 R= ED-057 & 2172610 & 27.18 R= n0rtygames & 2162920 & 27.06 R= KMM & 2111210 & 26.41 R= Pjoxt & 1988390 & 24.87 R= ghostvirus2 & 1949080 & 24.38 R= shmuppyLove & 1906320 & 23.85 R= Masa & 1899290 & 23.76 R= Aru-san & 1878400 & 23.50 R= LaserGun & 1711800 & 21.41 R= gs68 & 1689550 & 21.14 R= Tigershark & 1425800 & 17.84 R= lothies & 1381070 & 17.28
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KennyMan666 wrote:heisenbergman: I've long had an idea for an alternate STGT. Maybe we could cooperate on this.
Oh, sure. Send me a PM regarding the details you had in mind, thanks :)
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heisenbergman wrote:
KennyMan666 wrote:heisenbergman: I've long had an idea for an alternate STGT. Maybe we could cooperate on this.
Oh, sure. Send me a PM regarding the details you had in mind, thanks :)
you can just stack rank on score. for multiple games you can just add ranks and sort ascending. let me know if you need any help with excel tools. I do things close to this for my job. I can write cool excel formulae parsers if all scores are submitted in a fixed format.
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sorry, but what does stacking rank on score mean, exactly?
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heisenbergman wrote:sorry, but what does stacking rank on score mean, exactly?
Sort descending, number 1 to whatever... it works great if the number of participants are always equal and no scores are similar. you have to do a bit of tweeking for similar scores and varying participants.
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