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I dislike steam, I would rather pay extra for DRM free games than use steam. So I use gog.com support Kickstarter and buy humble bundles.
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trap15 wrote:Anyone mind explaining to me why Steam is the holy bastion of PC gaming? DRM and a silly anchovie system? Woohoo? Just release the damn games standalone.
It's not necessarily, it's raw exposure as a market place ... It's a bit like facebook, it's not the only social network, but it's the biggest, and your friends are there already. It's an extremely powerful means to gain coordinated exposure at a single point in time, which is why most devs want to be there... and god knows we should welcome exposure for shmups.

No reason you can't also distribute on, say, good old games as well as steam?
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Yay! Our friends over at www.shmup.com show some love!

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ALLTYNEX Second english demo is now out.

Holy hell, that second stage is a tough cookie on Hard. :?
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Kamui demo won me over.
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Looks like the backers at 45$ and up will get: ALLTYNEX Digital Deluxe Edition

KAMUI, RefleX, ALLTYNEX Second game data
The Tale of ALLTYNEX Guide Book (PDF)
KAMUI, RefleX, ALLTYNEX Second original soundtracks (flac, 320kps mp3)
The Tale of ALLTYNEX DVD case image data (PDF) *
The Tale of ALLTYNEX game DVD and OSTs disc label image data (PDF) *
The Tale of ALLTYNEX postcard set image data (PDF) *
Bonus soundtracks: Reflection and RefleX trial version (flac, 320kps mp3)*
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Not to toot my own horn, but that was my question /idea for digital covers :) i know some collectors like having something physical on the shelf. Figured it would be a nice consolation.
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I wish I'd thought to request it, but it would have been neat for them to throw in a copy of the original Alltynex. Sure, basically no one owns an FM Towns, but it would kind of a neat piece of history. Maybe even Raid Wind? Though I don't know that Raid Wind is directly related to the Alltynex games.

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Post it up as a comment! Never know!
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Apologies! I haven't been on this thread for a while, so missed a few points.
bVork wrote:I pulled my pledge when they announced the pricing for the games. I see no reason to pay more and get less - the lowest tier with all three games is $35. That's $15 more than the price for the three games if I just wait.
I'm not about to try to convince you to change your mind - if it's just the games you want and you don't care to contribute to the campaign, that's absolutely fine - but FYI here's the comparison of what you get for your pledges versus the actual value.

Pledge vs Actual Value * | Pledge | Act. Value
1 game + OST + Wallpapers + Site Credit: $15 | $20.98
2 games + OST + Wallpapers + Site Credit + Game Credit: $25 | $28.97
3 games + OST + Wallpapers + Site Credit + Game Credit +Satazius: $35 | $42.95
3 games + 3 OSTs + Wallpapers + Site Credit + Game Credit +Satazius: $45** | $58.93

* Retail prices for all games and OSTs are $7.99; wallpapers, site & in-game credits are valued (conservatively, we'd say) at $5.
** That's of course before we threw in the Digital Deluxe Edition for pledges of $45 or more
bVork wrote:Also, Nyu Media's statement... is pure and utter bullshit.
Sorry, I can't recall receiving your note (feel free to resend) or any others. (That not willful lack of recollection, btw.)
bVork wrote:The games are coming out in English regardless of pledges, and even regardless of whether their goal is met. So this is merely a way to extract maximum money from customers.
As we pointed out in the Kickstarter page, the Kickstarter is to allow us to add additional resources to finalizing the games (specifically paying for more bug testing and code revisions), to help us promote the games & so hopefully give us a chance of passing Steam Greenlight, and give us a budget to create the stretch goals which we couldn't otherwise make. I can't make it much clearer than that. This isn't and never was a profit-generating exercise.

Hope that clears up some points.

PS Sorry about the hard to read table - the formatting look fine in preview, but munges when submitted.
PPS Btw, I 100% agree with your view on journalism, Steam & Greenlight, however :)
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CStarFlare wrote:I wish I'd thought to request it, but it would have been neat for them to throw in a copy of the original Alltynex. Sure, basically no one owns an FM Towns, but it would kind of a neat piece of history. Maybe even Raid Wind? Though I don't know that Raid Wind is directly related to the Alltynex games.

Reflection as well.
We actually discussed the possibility of including a port of the original ALLTYNEX with Siter Skain, but sadly it's outside of the scope of what they can do for this project.

Is there even an FM Towns emulator that could be used to run the original ALLTYNEX? I'm not sure that Siter Skain would be up for just handing out code for the sake of it.

Anyway, I'll ask them. Stand by...
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I believe there is, I've no idea how good it is, though. I'm sure someone around here has the real thing, though. :P
We actually discussed the possibility of including a port of the original ALLTYNEX with Siter Skain,
This is quite interesting in itself.

It'd be a neat thing if they were up for it, but I'd obviously understand any reluctance on their part. Especially if there's any chance they'd some day be interested in reviving them for a separate project... I was thinking about it from the perspective of the games being rather obscure by this point, so assumed they had little commercial value.

Anyway, thank you for asking, I hope they don't mind me asking.
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Sorry, but I already imported the games from Japan, and no physical release means that I'm not interested, especially not at a $35 price point.
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Friendly wrote:Sorry, but I already imported the games from Japan, and no physical release means that I'm not interested, especially not at a $35 price point.
Unfortunately that's where I ended up to. I was willing to pay $100 to support the physical release of the Trilogy, but I'm not paying a dime for downloadable content when I already bought a physical copy of Kamui.
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Friendly wrote:Sorry, but I already imported the games from Japan, and no physical release means that I'm not interested, especially not at a $35 price point.
Bar81 wrote:I was willing to pay $100 to support the physical release of the Trilogy, but I'm not paying a dime for downloadable content when I already bought a physical copy of Kamui.
No interest in English versions of the games?
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CStarFlare wrote:I wish I'd thought to request it, but it would have been neat for them to throw in a copy of the original Alltynex. Sure, basically no one owns an FM Towns, but it would kind of a neat piece of history. Maybe even Raid Wind? Though I don't know that Raid Wind is directly related to the Alltynex games. Reflection as well.
Good news! I put the request to SITER SKAIN and they asked that we don't include these games in the deluxe edition, but they have graciously provided access to all three games.

PLEASE NOTE: This is under the express condition that SITER SKAIN will provide no support for the games and you use them at your own risk and responsibility!

That said, here is a link to the games: http://www.siterskain.com/artifact/

And here is a translation of the text at the page:

Links to SITER SKAIN Previous Works

Here are links to works that are SITER SKAIN-related, but not created under the SITER SKAIN name.

SITER SKAIN will provide no support for these games.
SITER SKAIN will not explain how to run these with emulators
Use these files at your own risk and responsibility.

Reflection for Windows 95
 Runs on Windows
 Sound effects may not play correctly
 BGM will not play regularly under Windows Vista or later
 No XInput compatibility

ALLTYNEX for FM TOWNS
 FM TOWNS or FM TOWNS emulation is required to run
 Whatever settings are used, slowdown will be experienced when run by emulation
 
RAID WIND for PC9801
 PC9801 series computer or PC9801 emulation is required to run
 This game was created using the STG game maker ‘Bakasuka Wars’.
 BGM that plays in the game is part of BakasukaWars and was not created by SITER SKAIN

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Cool stuff :O
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Very nice :mrgreen:

Can someone point me to the correct download link to reflection, the link sends you to vector and then onwards...
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rtw wrote:Can someone point me to the correct download link to reflection, the link sends you to vector and then onwards...
Here you go, sir: http://www.vector.co.jp/download/file/w ... 93258.html

The download should start automatically when you visit the link.
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Friendly wrote:Sorry, but I already imported the games from Japan, and no physical release means that I'm not interested, especially not at a $35 price point.
Release Date + Pricing + BONUS REWARD Announcements!
The Tale of ALLTNEX (bundle of all 3 games): $19.99
GenkiPatton wrote:No interest in English versions of the games?
So it's $19.99 for the convenience of a localized version not $35 ...
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GenkiPatton wrote:Here you go, sir: http://www.vector.co.jp/download/file/w ... 93258.html
The download should start automatically when you visit the link.
Thank you most kindly, now tell me do you want bug reports here or on Kickstarter ?

I just tested out the Alltynex Second demo and have a few comments.

. Playing with an XBOX360 controller
. Using the analog stick on the controller
. Have not touched the configuration screen
. The "CTRL to skip" does not seem to have a controller equivalent
. Sometimes while playing I suddenly get the pause menu. Which is interesting in itself since it's not mapped on the controller :D I can reproduce it by doing a fast left then right while bashing A & B at the same time.

Fantastic to have a tutorial in English :D
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HydrogLox wrote:So it's $19.99 for the convenience of a localized version not $35 ...
Correct. $35 was a pledge tier to receive the 3 localized ALLTYNEX games + OST + Wallpapers + Site Credit + Game Credit + a Steam key for SATAZIUS.
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rtw wrote:Thank you most kindly, now tell me do you want bug reports here or on Kickstarter ?

I just tested out the Alltynex Second demo and have a few comments.
Here will do just fine. Thanks for comments - we'll follow up on these.
rtw wrote:Fantastic to have a tutorial in English :D
We'll have manuals for all 3 games too :)
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GenkiPatton wrote:
HydrogLox wrote:So it's $19.99 for the convenience of a localized version not $35 ...
That's correct. $35 was a pledge tier to receive the 3 localized ALLTYNEX games + OST + Wallpapers + Site Credit + Game Credit + a Steam key for SATAZIUS.
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GenkiPatton wrote:
Friendly wrote:Sorry, but I already imported the games from Japan, and no physical release means that I'm not interested, especially not at a $35 price point.
Bar81 wrote:I was willing to pay $100 to support the physical release of the Trilogy, but I'm not paying a dime for downloadable content when I already bought a physical copy of Kamui.
No interest in English versions of the games?
It's a shmup, not an RPG. I was willing to buy at a premium for a physical copy of the games and OSTs (not mp3 quality crap) and the physical translated book. Downloadable stuff does not interest me, particularly when I already have the game.
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Bar81 wrote:It's a shmup, not an RPG. I was willing to buy at a premium for a physical copy of the games and OSTs (not mp3 quality crap) and the physical translated book. Downloadable stuff does not interest me, particularly when I already have the game.
Totally your prerogative & makes sense if you have no interest in (purchasing to understand) the stories.

For the record, the OSTs are available in flac and 320kbps mp3 format.
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Awesome, June 6th isn't that far off. I'm really looking forward to this.
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GenkiPatton wrote:
CStarFlare wrote:I wish I'd thought to request it, but it would have been neat for them to throw in a copy of the original Alltynex. Sure, basically no one owns an FM Towns, but it would kind of a neat piece of history. Maybe even Raid Wind? Though I don't know that Raid Wind is directly related to the Alltynex games. Reflection as well.
Good news! I put the request to SITER SKAIN and they asked that we don't include these games in the deluxe edition, but they have graciously provided access to all three games.
This rocks. Siter Skain are king. :O
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GenkiPatton wrote:For the record, the OSTs are available in flac and 320kbps mp3 format.
Nice.
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Seems improbable, but is there any chance this game crossing platforms (linux/mac)? I would be stoked if it's true.
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