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Skykid wrote:Oh, and I should mention Legend of Kage 2 is a bit of a surprise. Genuinely desirable for speed running with a ton of moves, fast paced action, and really quite excellent boss fights. Graphics are nice and music is often great.

Not the best game ever, but it's everything Kaze Kiri wanted to be. I'd recommend it to old school action fans, certainly does justice to the name (pretty sure it's superior to the original.)
It's the "not the best game ever" part and the lack of specifics, when compared to all the good things it is cited as doing, that worries me. Also probably should be kicking myself for not grabbing a copy years ago...though that might just mean it's dirt cheap now. Hmm, off to eBay then. Edit: $17.98 shipped, new? Life is good. Even if it's a stinker that's not a bad deal. Reminds me that I could've stocked up on new Perfect Dark copies a while back... :mrgreen:
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^ I bought a US copy of Kage 2 from a UK ebay seller for £3.50 + 2 for post. Feels like one of those incredibly unappreciated action games, probably because it's in such a 16bit vein.

When I say it's not the best game ever, don't take it as too much of a sleight. The stages seem a bit vapid initially, but it's about trying to chain enemy kills. They get a lot longer and busier as the game progresses, and I really like your constantly improving skills - your insanely high ninja jumping is definitely well suited to the dual screen.

Get an English language ver. tho: plenty of story and a good translation.

@ everyone else, thanks for the info. I did the list before bed and expected duplicates, wuz kind of hoping you'd spot them by morning and make like easier. Will prune forthwith.

Also, I didn't discriminate over suggestions. Majo Shinpan might not be a great game, but I'm skeptical about plenty on there, including anything Sonic related, and JRPGS entirely in Japanese (only because of accessibility reasons.)

I just figured it's better that everything goes on. What I might do is ask for genre compilation help. Could I appeal to your skillsets? For example, Moniker, could you tell me all the games that are roguelikes, and JI, all the games with JP text only?
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Let's see...

Roguelikes:

Shiren the Wanderer DS 1,2,4,5 (only 1 is in English; 2 has a translation patch; 4 & 5 have English wikis)
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Series
Izuna
Izuna 2
Disgaea's Item Dungeon Mode

Homebrew (all roguelikes):
POWDER
Angband
FAAngband
OAngband
NetHack DS


Old School Dungeon Crawlers:

Etrian Odyssey
Etrian Odyssey 2
Etrian Odyssey 3
The Dark Spire
SMT: Strange Journey
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Aura Aura Climber is a good DSiWare for 2 bucks. Simple and fun game where you make a sun like creature stretch out to attach to pegs and climb to the goal. A bit on the short since, but very re-playable.
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Ok, huge front page clean up and categorisation. Plz let me know if you see any more dupes or placement probs.

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Ups, I mean Dragon Ball Z Bukuu Togeki 2/Dragon Ball Z: Supersonic Warriors 2
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KAI wrote:Ups, I mean Dragon Ball Z Bukuu Togeki 2/Dragon Ball Z: Supersonic Warriors 2
I saw on gamefaqs that the JP name for the game is Dragon Ball Z: Bukuu Ressen.
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You right, me wrong.
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gah, i typed out a whole list with comments and then stupid browser made me log back in again :/

Quick version - will tart up later and add comments/other missing stuff

Thor
Contra 4
Batman : TBATB
N+
Geometry Wars : Galaxies
Bangaio Spirits
Korg DS-10 <--- worth rerecommending as it's so amazingly good.

Also - in the OP list, there's an issue

Ouendan is not Elite Beat Agents, Ouendan 2 is not EBA2 (there is no EBA2)

There's three games - Ouendan, Ouendan 2 and EBA - they're all separate entries in the series and all three are the most fun you can have in gaming. I go back through one of them every few months just to play something out and out fun. Cheerleader/Diva mode is great fun. Best games on DS.
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^ Thanks! I'll get it fixed today. Also, Contra 4 :slaps forehead:, how could I forget.
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Okamiden is an action RPG.
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Okamiden is really a Legend of Zelda N64-era clone with a different fight system. There's no traditional leveling although it does borrow many ideas seen in aRPGs.
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Thanks gents. Forgot about Okamiden, and that description sounds pretty alluring Ed, 'specially since I much prefer arpgs, and have nothing but love for the N64 Zelda jewels.
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dcharlieJP wrote: Korg DS-10 <--- worth rerecommending as it's so amazingly good.
Why is this coming up more than the updated version, Korg DS-10 Plus?

I noticed Jake Hunter - Detective Chronicles / Tantei Jinguji Saburo DS: Inishie no Kioku is on the list. I suggest taking it off and putting Jake Hunter Detective Story (also a localization of Tantei Jinguji Saburo DS: Inishie no Kioku) on instead since it's the same game with a better translation and more content.

Did anyone recommend Hotel Dusk? I found that to be a nice detective/visual novel/graphic adventure game, though it lacks the humor of Phoenix Wright. I heard good things about the sequel, Last Window (not released in the US, but the EU version is available for fairly cheap and is in English), though I haven't played Last Window.
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Skykid wrote:Thanks gents. Forgot about Okamiden, and that description sounds pretty alluring Ed, 'specially since I much prefer arpgs, and have nothing but love for the N64 Zelda jewels.
The main difference is that the fighting system is really different. You won't run around swinging your sword at things - however the line-drawing gives the idea of doing things in the game world a new lease on life. It makes at least as much sense as constantly hitting jars and grass for jewels, and in a sense it's more intuitive to just draw a shape on the screen rather than constantly pull up a menu to select new items.

Overall I think your like or dislike for the game will be mainly shaped by your tolerance for the rather odd fighting system.
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Gyakuten Saiban 4 / Ace Attorney: Apollo Justice
Gyakuten Kenji / Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth
Gyakuten Kenji 2
Konami Classics Series - Arcade Hits
Namco Museum DS
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KAI wrote:Gyakuten Saiban 4 / Ace Attorney: Apollo Justice
Gyakuten Kenji / Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth
Gyakuten Kenji 2
Are these available in English? I have no problem adding anything to the list, but for something like a text adventure it's going to blow a little if you can't read Japanese.
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All updated.
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Why is this coming up more than the updated version, Korg DS-10 Plus?
yup - should be Korg DS-10 Plus
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Skykid wrote:
KAI wrote:Gyakuten Saiban 4 / Ace Attorney: Apollo Justice
Gyakuten Kenji / Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth
Gyakuten Kenji 2
Are these available in English? I have no problem adding anything to the list, but for something like a text adventure it's going to blow a little if you can't read Japanese.
Gyakuten Kenji 2 isn't. Also, only the first three Japanese Gyakuten Saiban DS games play in English with a DS set to English.
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BrianC wrote:
Skykid wrote:
KAI wrote:Gyakuten Saiban 4 / Ace Attorney: Apollo Justice
Gyakuten Kenji / Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth
Gyakuten Kenji 2
Are these available in English? I have no problem adding anything to the list, but for something like a text adventure it's going to blow a little if you can't read Japanese.
Gyakuten Kenji 2 isn't. Also, only the first three Japanese Gyakuten Saiban DS games play in English with a DS set to English.
I know, they're the only ones I've played through. (Well, I'm yet to finish the third.) ;)

Thanks for the info, I was obviously just being blind: KAI noted the english lang versions right there. :oops:
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Looking like a pretty comprehensive list! Only glaring omission I spy is the excellent Flower, Sun and Rain, AKA Suda 51 does late period Bunuel.
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How could i forget one of the best puzzle games ever?

Slitherlink

i will stop playing.... after this next puzzle... promise.

oh and :
Zoo Keeper - worth it for the annoyed hitler boss character in the challenge mode - as good a match 3 game as you'll get
Air Traffic Chaos - another fantastic airport management entry to the series. Nice to see it get an english release. Bombed through the PSP and 3DS versions, but enjoyed the DS version more.
Inazuma 11 (1+2) - for the English versions - great and fun translations for rpg soccer game.


Borderlines (?) :
Orcs vs Eleves - okay, it's rough around the edges but good for old school Dungeon Master fans
Puzzle Quest 1 - find it more fun than the follow up, bettered on other platforms, but a great game mixing rpg and match-3 elements
Scurge : Hive - in truth i played the GBA version and it's probably more impressive for that platform - but a good action game, plays out like Isometric Metroid
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Another pair of ace DS titles worthy of adding to your gaming collection:

Atari Greatest Hits Volume 1 - has the ace Atari Vectorbeam arcade classic known as Space Duel to check out...playing it with dual fightercrafts for double the firepower, priceless.

Atari Greatest Hits Volume 2 - has the slick Vectorbeam classics of Major Havoc & Tempest with D-pad controls as it should be (of course, a rotary controller would've even better imho with both arcade vector titles).

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PC Engine Fan X! wrote:Another pair of ace DS titles worthy of adding to your gaming collection:

Atari Greatest Hits Volume 1 - has the ace Atari Vectorbeam arcade classic known as Space Duel to check out...playing it with dual fightercrafts for double the firepower, priceless.

Atari Greatest Hits Volume 2 - has the slick Vectorbeam classics of Major Havoc & Tempest with D-pad controls as it should be (of course, a rotary controller would've even better imho with both arcade vector titles).

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Both collections are good stuff. Tempest is in the first one, not the second, though. Also, I found the majority of games with special controls to control better using the stylus. Some games on volume 2 like Circus Atari and Red Baron (I think only these two and one more if I remember correctly) won't let you use the L button for fire, though.

Edit: It seems all the 2600 paddle games in v. 2 won't let you use the L button. The funny thing is that the arcade versions don't have this issue.

Puzzle Quest DS also has a DSiWare version. I heard it's the complete game, but with lower quality sound.
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How is Rondo of swords??? I have read the first post and I have seen it recommended so I guess is a nice piece of game. And how about Soma Bringuer????
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Just stumbled across this homebrew: Knytt Stories DS

Not too shabby!
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I really liked Rondo of Swords. It's got a pretty unique system for an SRPG - instead of walking up to something and attacking it, you attack by plotting a course through enemies (and can chain them and so forth). It may take awhile for the brain to adjust, but I definitely recommend it.
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Skykid wrote:^ I bought a US copy of Kage 2 from a UK ebay seller for £3.50 + 2 for post. Feels like one of those incredibly unappreciated action games, probably because it's in such a 16bit vein.

When I say it's not the best game ever, don't take it as too much of a sleight. The stages seem a bit vapid initially, but it's about trying to chain enemy kills. They get a lot longer and busier as the game progresses, and I really like your constantly improving skills - your insanely high ninja jumping is definitely well suited to the dual screen.
Do you get a skill later on that fixes the game's tendency to bring you to a dead stop after executing attacks? That design choice doesn't seem like a good fit for the continuous action format of this game, and it's driving me nuts. Hard to adjust to. Executing dash attacks and so on also is odd feeling because you come up on enemies so quickly. Not sure the tall screen format is working wonders for the game - it's different, and nice to see what's above you, but there usually doesn't seem to be much to see most of the time, and getting around on trees is more of a chore than I would like.

Really, the game is doing very little for me, especially when the much-vaunted combo system is largely determined by luck of enemy appearance.

The boss fights are interesting, though.
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Kage 2 is a 3/5 game for me, which isn't a bad thing. i put at least 30 hours into it, because it's really fun, but strangely it's a lot more fun to play as the chick, because a) her chain weapon is far more fun to use, and b) it counts towards increasing your hit counter. Facing the demon sisters towards the end is lots of fun racking up a 99-hit counter-stop combo.

With Kage you have to be more careful, though the random enemy spawns leave a lot of things to luck. If you hit something with a shuriken, it stops the hit counter from depleting though.

Generally it's a fun game, and more so on harder difficulties. Just some design flaws that really should be addressed in a sequel - I would have loved to see a refinement of the formula!
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@Ed, EmperorIng has basically covered it. The stages themselves have area for improvement definitely - for me they're just a little too vapid for too long - but do get a little more interesting in the last third.

Holding a chain is definitely a skill in this. I don't find enemies come too fast, often they're not fast enough. I have no issue dash hacking past one then jumping for another, it's just a shame the random respawning element makes it hard to judge.

The meat of the game is definitely the boss engagements - for the most part they're really well designed and quite testing.

As I said though, not the best game ever, but fun to toy with. I'm probably with Ing at around 6 or 7 out of 10. Not sure yet, will play through with the girl and see how that goes.
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