Where is the Ibara love?

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I'm starting to understand this Ibara love you guys are talking about. Fun shit.

61%? I play without touching the blitter and it's more fun.
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I'm so mad that I can't release my modified MAME for accurate Ibara slowdown :lol:
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Dude, don't play with our feelings.
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trap15 wrote:I'm so mad that I can't release my modified MAME for accurate Ibara slowdown :lol:
Get in touch with the CaveUI guys, I'm sure they'd be interested.
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Considering how cheap the PCB is and how overly expensive the shit port is I don't understand why so many people stick with the port. If you are patient you can grab an Ibara pcb for less that $300 while the shittastic port goes for like $140 give or take.

Best STG of all time for $300 and you never need another game again @_@
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I always thought the port was expensive because of the...Arrange was it? The version similar to Kuro. Not having a concentration shot in a Cave game was not the brightest idea. It's standard and expected.
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shmuppyLove wrote:
trap15 wrote:I'm so mad that I can't release my modified MAME for accurate Ibara slowdown :lol:
Get in touch with the CaveUI guys, I'm sure they'd be interested.
I'm not withholding it because there's nowhere to send it. I'm withholding it because I still think there's a chance for a new better port of it. Also because CAVE would hate me even more for doing it :wink:
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trap15 wrote:
shmuppyLove wrote:
trap15 wrote:I'm so mad that I can't release my modified MAME for accurate Ibara slowdown :lol:
Get in touch with the CaveUI guys, I'm sure they'd be interested.
I'm not withholding it because there's nowhere to send it. I'm withholding it because I still think there's a chance for a new better port of it. Also because CAVE would hate me even more for doing it :wink:
They won't tho, it's cave after all.

If anything we will get a deathsmiles IIDX HD BL Edition before anything anybody actually wants.
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If anything we will get a deathsmiles IIDX HD BL Edition before anything anybody actually wants.
awesome :lol:
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Muchi Muchi Spork wrote:Not having a concentration shot in a Cave game was not the brightest idea. It's standard and expected.
Not for a Yagawa game. Ibara is pretty much a sequel to Battle Garegga, which is why it's so awesome.
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I like Ibara. Can't pass stage 2 for the life of me 99% of the time though. Apparently I need to stock more HOLDMETIGHT-HADOUGUNS!!!.
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KAI wrote:I'm starting to understand this Ibara love you guys are talking about. Fun shit.

61%? I play without touching the blitter and it's more fun.
At 61%, Ibara has basically no slowdown in the first two levels, or what I've seen in the third.

It's definitely not a Mushi.
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Vyxx wrote:Considering how cheap the PCB is and how overly expensive the shit port is I don't understand why so many people stick with the port. If you are patient you can grab an Ibara pcb for less that $300 while the shittastic port goes for like $140 give or take.

Best STG of all time for $300 and you never need another game again @_@
This was pretty much my justification for buying the PCB
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People just moan to much and blame there lack of perseverance and skill on everything but themselves.Ive played ps2 ,pcb and mame and found no issue in executing the same strats for the same score in each one didnt make a blind bit of difference and judging by archers ps2 port and pcb scores i dont think it bothered him much either.Which part of stage 3 are you people needing slowdown for? Sounds like you might be playing to much from intuition and not enough from a bit of plan and memory.
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Been playing it the last few days because of this topic. It's definitely grown on me. When I first played it I didn't care for Yagawa games at all, now it's basically right there with Battle Garrega or Batrider. The graphics on the PS2 port look pretty dull, though. And I wish I knew how to score in the arrange mode... maybe you just have to make it to stage 3 to have a chance at a high score, and I'm just not very good.
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Setting the blitter rate won't help for Ibara's slowdown. Much of it is CPU based, and requires waitstate emulation and a CPU clock that isn't hilariously fudged.
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In the spirit of this thread, I just bought my first PCB...

Guess what it was. 8)
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NICE :D
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cools wrote: The difficulty comes in because it plays differently every time, and all the DDP-game-chainers can't handle this.

Every successful run is a hard fought achievement, not an exercise in muscle and mental memory.
More info about this? Is there much RNG then?
Seems like I don't know much about ibara, and this post made me interested.. :)
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There's tons of RNG :)
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Welcome to Yagawa.

This game is not as hard as I though, I'm getting to the last stage with only 1 day of practice, some of my strategies from Arrange and Kuro are transferable. Ibara Full Love <3
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Vyxx wrote:Considering how cheap the PCB is and how overly expensive the shit port is I don't understand why so many people stick with the port. If you are patient you can grab an Ibara pcb for less that $300 while the shittastic port goes for like $140 give or take.

Best STG of all time for $300 and you never need another game again @_@
Don't forget the cost of a Supergun.....how much does a decent one cost these days?
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It's not expensive or difficult to build your own supergun out of parts, and if you do something like this:
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=40753

Then you don't need any carpentry skills at all. But you do need to find the cheapest tested working jamma board to use as a tester before plugging in a Cave board. It might be easy but we are still human.

Ibara being the best game ever is obviously just one person's opinion. I don't think it is and I don't think Garegga is either, but that wins the voting every year and it's quite similar. In an interview it was said that Ikeda specifically said to Yagawa "make Battle Garegga" as the instructions for Ibara.

Also I think you can make Ibara play the same game each time if you run it in and out of service mode after each death, like with Pink Sweets.
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Muchi Muchi Spork wrote:It's not expensive or difficult to build your own supergun out of parts for those with electrical/soldering skills, and if you do something like this:
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=40753
I'm pretty sure thats what you meant.
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Nope it's not the same skill set to do pcb repair and smd work vs. what it takes to make your own controller. It takes no skills at all to wrap open wire through a hole in a microswitch and put a hot iron on it with solder. It takes a few minutes of studying on the internet and nothing more. Absolutely anyone can do it.
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Muchi Muchi Spork wrote:Nope it's not the same skill set to do pcb repair and smd work vs. what it takes to make your own controller. It takes no skills at all to wrap open wire through a hole in a microswitch and put a hot iron on it with solder. It takes a few minutes of studying on the internet and nothing more. Absolutely anyone can do it.
Naaah, I don't wanna go through all that, what a pre-built one going for these days?
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Prebuilt ones kickass too but I'm not an expert on their pricing at all. I see a lot of them here:

http://www.game-kanaya.com/index.html

And I'm sure they are on Yahoo Japan a lot. You might want to ask rancor to keep an eye out for you for a cheap(er) one? I don't know, I build my own stuff.
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The "don't forget the cost of ..." argument always makes me giggle. Want to play Ibara in mame? Don't forget the cost of a monitor, operating system, joystick, and a nice gaming chair! :roll:

On topic, Ibara is fine. Lots of bombing, extends/death, and massive destruction everywhere. Not a fan of boss milking, but that seems easy enough to ignore.
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Jeneki wrote:The "don't forget the cost of ..." argument always makes me giggle.
So how else would someone looking for the bare minimum requirement to play a pcb do so? Are you saying superguns are as ubiquitous as, say, two-year old PC's?
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Softdrink 117 wrote:In the spirit of this thread, I just bought my first PCB...

Guess what it was. 8)
Congrats on your first pcb! Nice choice.
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