Daifukkatsu stage 5 is a DFK PCB!?

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Daifukkatsu stage 5 is a DFK PCB!?

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Hey guys, so is it true that stage 5 of Daifukkatsu is actually a Daifukkatsu PCB!? Like, you're flying over a properly mapped PCB?
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Interesting. One bit certainly looks like a PCB.

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No, not even close.

It just partly looks like a PCB, that's all.

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awww, it would be awesome if it was :(
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Man, that's awesome. Never noticed that section was PCB styled.
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Fitting with the theme of Daifukkatsu bosses, it's what the PCB would look like if it transformed into Mega Maid. That also explains the laser trap section, she goes from suck to blow.
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Wow, I never noticed that before. That's pretty cool.
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Skykid wrote:Never noticed that section was PCB styled.
Keres wrote:Wow, I never noticed that before.
As an artist, these statements make me sad.
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ptoing wrote:
Skykid wrote:Never noticed that section was PCB styled.
Keres wrote:Wow, I never noticed that before.
As an artist, these statements make me sad.
Most of us, including myself, have only seen the stage during the game and with all the action happening on the screen it would be difficult to notice that :oops:

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This makes even more an awesome an stage that already is, I wanna play DFK now to see it live.
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Quite oddly I noticed that when watching a video of DFK but always forgot about it when I played the game.

Nice touch anyway CAVE.
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O. Van Bruce wrote:
ptoing wrote:
Skykid wrote:Never noticed that section was PCB styled.
Keres wrote:Wow, I never noticed that before.
As an artist, these statements make me sad.
Most of us, including myself, have only seen the stage during the game and with all the action happening on the screen it would be difficult to notice that :oops:

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This makes even more an awesome an stage that already is, I wanna play DFK now to see it live.
Yeah I can see the only seeing it during gameplay argument. And I am very well aware that I have a much higher attention to detail than most people. Still sad as an artist to see a lot of work going into something and then most players wont even notice it consciously.
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Too many dick lasers onscreen to even bother paying attention to the background.
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I have to say I just noticed, this game has got to have the craziest experiments in scrolling there ever were, does Espgaluda get madder than this or?
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DFK has the most extreme direction changes and similar things as far as scrolling goes among Cave games. Espgaluda 2 is quite straightforward.

The 4th hidden boss in DFK also has pretty cool stuff going on with the background. Basically the way it is draw simulates something like a steep rise and then a barrel roll.
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ptoing wrote:The 4th hidden boss in DFK also has pretty cool stuff going on with the background. Basically the way it is draw simulates something like a steep rise and then a barrel roll.
Yeah, that one's always really impressed me when I paid attention to it. It makes your perspective change smoothly as you climb up towards the sun, then do a hard bank towards the ground as you fight the boss.
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Keres wrote:
ptoing wrote:The 4th hidden boss in DFK also has pretty cool stuff going on with the background. Basically the way it is draw simulates something like a steep rise and then a barrel roll.
Yeah, that one's always really impressed me when I paid attention to it. It makes your perspective change smoothly as you climb up towards the sun, then do a hard bank towards the ground as you fight the boss.
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ptoing wrote:DFK has the most extreme direction changes and similar things as far as scrolling goes among Cave games. Espgaluda 2 is quite straightforward.

The 4th hidden boss in DFK also has pretty cool stuff going on with the background. Basically the way it is draw simulates something like a steep rise and then a barrel roll.
Yep, noticed that, similar tricks in Espgaluda 2, though the first place I saw this was Street Fighter 3 in some backgrounds that try to convince you the perspective is changing and it's not just scrolling when you jump: http://zweifuss.ca/SFIIIBG/sean02.png
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ptoing wrote:DFK has the most extreme direction changes and similar things as far as scrolling goes among Cave games. Espgaluda 2 is quite straightforward.
You don't think Goo-wang is worse? The all-over-the-place direction of Goo-wang takes that trophy surely? Game is absurdly hard as well... even without the boxy direction changes.
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I have looked at the levels in Guwange very closely, and no, they are not as loopy as the stuff in DFK.
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ptoing wrote:Still sad as an artist to see a lot of work going into something and then most players wont even notice it consciously.
I'm actually quite pleased to know people were paying attention to the right stuff.
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Actually, when I played it this weekend on a cab I remember thinking I sort of thought the structures resembled capacitors for some reason, I hadn't really noticed that segment was going for a definite PCB-esque style reference until I looked at the map though.

Moreso than other shmup stages, the laser wheels are a huge distraction because of how much of the screen they take up, and how you can't kill them in 1.5 meaning you have to absolutely focus on the foreground there, there's no breaks in the action like in Futari where you get a few breathers midstage when you kill bullet cancel enemies. Once the laser wheels show up, it's pure madness.

Speaking of references, are these guys in Stage 4 supposed to be a reference to Futari Maniac's moths in Stage 4? Their bullet patterns in maniac seem to be very similar to the DFK enemies. Looking again, it might just be me though, both their openers have fixed spreads and lines of bullets fired through the spreads, so it might be that that's giving me deja vu.
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You don't recognize them from Dodonpachi...? I'll just say that there are lots of enemy "archetypes" and that cave games are pretty similar in their general design "motif". The stage 4 enemies (yes, from both games) are a part of that.
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BareknuckleRoo wrote:the laser wheels [...] you can't kill them in 1.5
I hate the fucking laserwheels. That being said, is there any mode in which you can kill them? I don't think you can in BL or any other mode for that matter.

And yeah that enemy in stage 4 is the midboss from level 1 in DDP. DFK recycles shitloads of sprites from DDP.
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Actually, the laser wheels can be killed in Arrange A. They die surprisingly quickly. Not sure about other modes though.
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Ah, never played Arrange A much, should give it a proper go sometime. Being able to kill those fuckers would make things a lot easier overall.
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mesh control wrote:Too many dick lasers onscreen to even bother paying attention to the background.
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I know you can't kill them in Novice.

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shmuppyLove wrote:Novice
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moh wrote:
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