PS4 / Xbox One console war

[Stormwatch]

- N64 is released: assimilate analog sticks.

Vectrex and Atari 5200 had it first.

- Gamecube pressure sensitive shoulder buttons: steal for DS3.

Dreamcast had it first.

[Friendly]

Skykid is a proponent of devolution. Nothing that anyone has ever created should ever be used or improved upon by anyone else. How dare all those plagiarists use wheels, too? Back to the stone age, yeah!

Pong should have been the beginning and end of video games.

[Skykid]

Nothing that anyone has ever created should ever be used or improved upon by anyone else.

What did the Dual Shock ever improve upon?

- Gamecube pressure sensitive shoulder buttons: steal for DS3.

Dreamcast had it first.

Yeah, I can hang with that (but not so much the Atari one.)

The point is - to clarify all the facetiousness that's combatting my facetiousness - the evolution of the Dual Shock has always hinged on waiting for a competitor to prompt a design change in the current market. You already knew that anyway, so enough with the facetiousness battling. Need to save some for the PS4.

[Specineff]

Dreamcast had it first.

Actually, the Saturn analog 3D controller did it earlier.

[Ghegs]

Dreamcast had it first.

Actually, the Saturn analog 3D controller did it earlier.

Actually, the neGcon for PS1 had an analogue shoulder button before that.

[Obiwanshinobi]

I wouldn't be surprised if some flight sticks back when those were pretty standard computer gaming equipment had analogue triggers/buttons.
3D Pad's and 'Cube pad's triggers don't have much in common. Who even likes using the latter (in a game that isn't Luigi's Mansion)? I wanted Burnout 2 for GameCube, but the PS2 version was too cheap to ignore it. When I realised how much boosting is possible in 2, I considered myself lucky. Right trigger makes that much difference.

[shmuppyLove]

Who even likes using the latter (in a game that isn't Luigi's Mansion)?

Rogue Squadron II and III made pretty good use of those two-stage analog shoulder buttons, if I remember correctly.

[PC Engine Fan X!]

- N64 is released: assimilate analog sticks.

Vectrex and Atari 5200 had it first.

- Gamecube pressure sensitive shoulder buttons: steal for DS3.

Dreamcast had it first.

Yep, the Vectrex control panel works quite well with GCE's Hyperchase racing title and quite accurate as well (it's placed on the left & right directional axis though).

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[Obiwanshinobi]

Rogue Squadron II and III made pretty good use of those two-stage analog shoulder buttons, if I remember correctly.

Wait a second... Played II not so long ago, and indeed had no problem with triggers. It's F-Zero GX where they rub me the wrong way most.

[Friendly]

7 1/2 hours to go until the annoucement.

Live streams here:
http://www.gametrailers.com/games/tkebzh/playstation-4
http://www.twitch.tv/playstation/videos ... broadcasts

[Friendly]

So, in 90 minutes we'll find out if PS4 will actually have a 4 in its name (you know, because of the "shi" superstition thing).

[MX7]

Are you getting 50p every time you bump this thread?

[KAI]

I'm SO not hyped about this.

[Ed Oscuro]

PS4 most wanted feature: one less frame of input lag

[ZellSF]

NeoGAF is down for "scheduled maintenance".

Also: No leaks Sony? What's wrong

[louisg]

They're announcing it right now!!! It'll have 150 cores, but each core only runs at 200MHz. It will also contain 4 megabytes of RAM. But not to worry-- it'll require a terrabit internet connection and all of the data will be streamed. Since 4MB is half of the 1080p frame buffer, all games will run interlaced but they'll be 120Hz so it'll even out. The retail price will be $3000 and it will break after 2 weeks.

Pretty exciting! A good programmer should be able to make great use of this hardware.

[mesh control]

lock thread
ban op

[Ed Oscuro]

don't forget it syncs on green!

[ZellSF]

Montage. Sony press conference confirmed.

[Friendly]

Thank god, they are calling it PS4.

8GB GDDR5.

[ZellSF]

Woah, they're not cheaping out on the RAM. 8 GB as rumored, GDDR5.

[trap15]

HAHAHAHA ENHANCED PC ARCHITECTURE HAHAHAHA

[Friendly]

Nice, instant resuming, background downloads and games playable even before the download is finished.

[ZellSF]

Huh, if they have the infrastructure for that social experience... I think it will actually really help them.

[mesh control]

SO IT'S A PC
HUH

[Ed Oscuro]

Nice, instant resuming, background downloads and games playable even before the download is finished.

easily impressed huh?

[louisg]

HAHAHAHA ENHANCED PC ARCHITECTURE HAHAHAHA

Dammit. Well, if it's any consolation (ha), PCs can perform smoothly if they have good coders and an underlying OS that lets you do what you need to do. But given how amazingly shittily a lot of PC-based arcade machines run (from previously good developers, too), it does make you wonder.

[Friendly]

Nice, instant resuming, background downloads and games playable even before the download is finished.

easily impressed huh?

Its cool if you can just turn off your system and resume playing at any time; I really like that about PS Vita. Home consoles haven't offered this until now.

Huh, if they have the infrastructure for that social experience... I think it will actually really help them.

Maybe; personally I don't care about this social network bull; I hope it won't clutter the system.

[mesh control]

NES, SNES, GENESIS, any cartridge based game offered that.

[Friendly]

Oh nice, EVERY PS4 game will be playable on PS Vita (hopefully lag-free) via their new remote play.