Philosoma opinions?

Pshooter · Post by **Pshooter** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:05 pm

I've heard some bad, but also some good about this PSX game. opinions?

dpful · Post by **dpful** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:32 pm

I think it's got some really great parts.
Search the forum- I think there was a similar thread that fleshed it out quite a bit.

Zach Keene · Post by **Zach Keene** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:46 pm

A couple of earlier threads:

http://forum.shmups.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1138
http://forum.shmups.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2619

BenT · Post by **BenT** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:47 am

I rented it back in the day and found it to be awful. The FMV cinemas were kind of fascinating what with all of their blatant sexual imagery, though. Hell, the last boss is a giant ovum that you shoot while a voice chants "fertilize, fertilize..." I guess that counts for something.

dementia · Post by **dementia** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:22 am

BenT wrote:I rented it back in the day and found it to be awful. The FMV cinemas were kind of fascinating what with all of their blatant sexual imagery, though. Hell, the last boss is a giant ovum that you shoot while a voice chants "fertilize, fertilize..." I guess that counts for something.

That's better than RTF.

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 6:47 am

The problem with the game is that it mixes too many angles into the equation. Vert/hori/3D etc.

It does none of them great and most levels are far too easy. The FMV's are gob smacking and are worth checking out.

There was a sequel but it was not a shmup on the ps2. I think it was like resident evil in space or something.

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:10 am

I'd say it's great. Not excellent, but far from just being "okay". A few steps down from the likes of Einhander or G-Darius, but miles and miles above Space Shot. Overall, a good addition to any shmupper's PSX library.

Oh, and you'll never think the same way about the words "Mission complete" EVER AGAIN.... *shiver*

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:09 am

Terrible game...poor level design & layout, badly animated enemies, irritating music & the Bosses flash completely red when they get shot, thus making it very tiring to stare at them for very long.

The FMV intro & cutscenes are gorgeous though.
Probably the best on the PSX & on par to Silpheed 2 on the PS-2.

You can clearly tell where the budget went on this game.

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:18 am

ST Dragon wrote:Terrible game...bad levels design & layout, badly animated enemies, irritating music & the Bosses flash completely red when they get shot, thus making it very tiring to stare at them for very long.

The FMV intro & cutscenes are gorgeous though.
Probably the best on the PSX & on par to Silpheed 2 on the PS-2.

You can clearly tell where the budget went on this game.

o_O I loved half of the music in that game...

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:57 am

One stage in Philosoma, looks like the 3rd multi-level mecha city stage in TFV.

The towers with the cannons that shoot at you....

ROBOTRON · Post by **ROBOTRON** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:22 pm

I liked it a lot when I first played it...but now it pales in comparison to others. The diff views is what makes it unique.

Post by **Shatterhand** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:50 pm

Well, since the thread goes on.

I personally think it's below average stuff. Space Shot is a million times better than this. The only thing going for it really is that it has lots of different points of view. Still is no SHIFTING camera like in Einhander, or something cool like R-Type Delta, so it doesnt look cool.

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:39 pm

Shatterhand wrote:Space Shot is a million times better than this.

Does... Not... Compute... *SPLODE!*

PaCrappa · Post by **PaCrappa** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:22 am

Not worth the blank CD required to pirate it.

Pa

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:23 am

Go for Philosoma only if you're interested in a comprehensive PS1 collection. There are just so many other games that are more likely to draw you in, especially if you have the ability to play imports.

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:56 am

Jesus fucking Christ, where's the love for Philosoma? It was the Resident Evil of shmups on PSX, for fuck's sake!

PaCrappa · Post by **PaCrappa** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:00 am

Dude, it's worse than Chaos Field. I don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Pa

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:02 am

PaCrappa wrote:Dude, it's worse than Chaos Field. I don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Pa

Philosoma > Space Shot > Chaos Field

Post by **Shatterhand** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:09 am

Bullshit

Space Shot owns it.

Space Shot is pretty enjoyable, while Philosoma has crappy gameplay.

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:16 am

Shatterhand wrote:Bullshit

Space Shot owns it.

Space Shot is pretty enjoyable, while Philosoma has crappy gameplay.

Well... I thought Space Shot was just a cheap knockoff of Thunderforce, but I guess we can just agree to disagree. ^^;

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:12 am

The clue is that Philosoma's gameplay is crap, but its aesthetics were ahead and it had a big influence on Einhander. So yeah, it's not fun to play, but it's interesting to play it at least once for the trip.

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:39 am

Zweihander wrote:
Shatterhand wrote:Bullshit

Space Shot owns it.

Space Shot is pretty enjoyable, while Philosoma has crappy gameplay.
Well... I thought Space Shot was just a cheap knockoff of Thunderforce, but I guess we can just agree to disagree. ^^;

Sorry to interrupt guys, but what is "Space Shot"?
If it's anything like TFIII, I'll want to try it for sure!

Any links & pics?

Thanks in advance.

Leeram · Post by **Leeram** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:54 am

Philosoma is a great big pile of steaming dog turd. Utter complet total shit. Nothing good about it whatsover apart from when you take it out and put something else on. Gameplay crap, graphics crap, sound crap everything crap.

Cheers

Leeram

Leeram · Post by **Leeram** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:02 pm

Zweihander,

I just had a look at your collection and noticed Astrosmash! How cool was that game, I spent hours and hours playing it. Everything that goes past you reduces your score... evil!! I think I'm going to have to get myself an Intellivision again.

A few years back I wrote my own shmup using a language called DIV and I based it on Astrosmash, except the rocks were my mate's head and there were curry bonuses and stuff. I'll have to dig it out and see if I can get it running. Or maybe find a windows version of DIV if such a thing was ever made.

Cheers

Leeram

Marc · Post by **Marc** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:45 pm

I just had a look at your collection and noticed Astrosmash! How cool was that game, I spent hours and hours playing it. Everything that goes past you reduces your score... evil!! I think I'm going to have to get myself an Intellivision again.

A classic. Still an addictive score challenge to this day. Think I may dog out the old Inty later...

Acid King · Post by **Acid King** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 1:03 pm

Leeram wrote:Zweihander,

I just had a look at your collection and noticed Astrosmash! How cool was that game, I spent hours and hours playing it. Everything that goes past you reduces your score... evil!! I think I'm going to have to get myself an Intellivision again.

Classic... I wasted so much time on that game and Shark! Shark!.... not to mention Gorf.

Marc · Post by **Marc** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:20 pm

Classic... I wasted so much time on that game and Shark! Shark!.... not to mention Gorf.

TRON Deadly Discs all the way dude. Night Stalker and Super Coba were cool also.

Post by **Shatterhand** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:14 pm

Space Shot is the western name of "The Shooter", which is a game in the Simple 1500 series.

Its an horizontal shmup with cheesy cut-scenes and average graphics.

I personally dont know why some people say its crap. The level design is not awesome, but its nice enough, and the game has very deep score mechanics. You can chain enemies with a specific weapon.. you also has a "dash" move, which can be used to destroy enemies. If you graze bullets with the dash move, you raise a multiplier, and you can keep dashing and grazing bullets for a big score.

I havent played for some time, but I think there is still more to the score mechanics (And its all documented in the manual AND ingame too). I remember you can finish level 1 with something around 60 thousand points if you dont play for scre, or 500 million if you do. (The score numbers is very much like the ones in Gigawing, heh

). The game has a decent challenge, the controls are very spot-on, and its incredibly cheap!

At points it does feel like Thunderforce, but no Thunderforce game has score mechanics as cool as this.

And its a lot more better than Philosoma

There are some screenshots from level 1 here:
http://www.findmeagame.com/games/706473 ... -Shot.html

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:43 am

Leeram wrote:Zweihander,

I just had a look at your collection and noticed Astrosmash! How cool was that game, I spent hours and hours playing it. Everything that goes past you reduces your score... evil!! I think I'm going to have to get myself an Intellivision again.

A few years back I wrote my own shmup using a language called DIV and I based it on Astrosmash, except the rocks were my mate's head and there were curry bonuses and stuff. I'll have to dig it out and see if I can get it running. Or maybe find a windows version of DIV if such a thing was ever made.

Cheers

Leeram

Funny story behind that... ^^;; I feel like a freakin' poser.... I own games for the Atari 2600, Intellivision, and Master System, but don't have any means of playing them.

I basically got them dirt-cheap, saving them for when I eventually get ahold of the old systems. ^^;; Sorry for getting your hopes up.

Also, Space shot just had... terrible play control.. x____x The score mechanics were cool, but dashing around got me killed more often than not.

Post by **Shatterhand** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:06 am

Zweihander wrote:Also, Space shot just had... terrible play control.. x____x The score mechanics were cool, but dashing around got me killed more often than not.

Its not the game's fault, you just suck

Just kidding, it took me a while to do it properly too. It needs practicing, you cant just go dashing like crazy. If your dash ends where an enemy or a bullet is standing, you are dead.

I bet if this game has good graphics and it wasnt sold so cheap (And maybe didnt had those stupid cut-scenes), it would be better regarded.