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Udderdude wrote:I really don't get who they're trying to appeal to. Older gamers that know these characters don't watch kiddy Disney movies (unless it's with their kids) and kids don't know the characters, or really anything about older 2D games.

Bleh.
I find this line of thought that animation equals kiddy movie amusing and depressing at the same time. Something that appeals for kids does not necessarily excludes adults. It's really sad that someone isn't willing to enjoy a movie just because it's colorful or cartoony.

So far I didn't really like any of the CG movies Disney made without Pixar, but I'm getting my hopes up for this one, it actually looks really good. What's left is to see if the premise will hold or if it will be just mindless cameo-fueled nostalgia.
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Udderdude wrote:I really don't get who they're trying to appeal to. Older gamers that know these characters don't watch kiddy Disney movies (unless it's with their kids) and kids don't know the characters, or really anything about older 2D games.

Bleh.
Kids who just want to see a new Disney film, and gamers with kids like myself. And you'd be surprised what my eight year old knows about 2D/arcade gaming.

Far as 'kiddie' films go, I'd take Toy Story or Monsters Inc over 90% of stuff releases this year - with or without my kids.
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I'm usually skeptical of 3D rendered non-Pixar Disney movies, but I liked Tangled and both Prep and Landing Christmas specials quite a bit. I looked up the director of Wreck-It Ralph. It's Rich Moore. He hasn't done any movies, but he worked on the earlier seasons of the Simpsons and many episodes of Futurama.
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I'm going to take my 9-year old daughter to see it. I need to start saving the cash now. :cry:
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Disney is about family entertainment rather than kiddy enterteinment for a reason: younger kids don't go to movie theaters alone, so there must be some incentive for their parents to sit through the whole thing.
I'm to cool for Disney stuff. The Little Mermaid was plain wrong (I knew the book already and the ending was WAY different there). The very fact they made The Hunchback of Notre Dame didn't make me furious (I didn't like the book), but it was eyebrow-raising to say the least. If any book deserves a Disney adaptation, it's The Painted Bird and maybe some Philip K. Dick books - things good just for that. Furthermore, I don't like the animation style.
Having said that, I don't have kids but if I had, the premise of this one would sound good enough for me to take them to the movies.
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I think this famous quote attributed to Walt Disney says it all:

"You're dead if you aim only for kids. Adults are only kids grown up, anyway."
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The very fact they made The Hunchback of Notre Dame didn't make me furious (I didn't like the book), but it was eyebrow-raising to say the least.
That was actually the last traditional Disney film of any worth. They did a very good job with that movie, with fewer Disney tropes than the average and an absolutely superb Judge Claude Frollo with a knockout performance from the voice actor.
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Skykid wrote:
The very fact they made The Hunchback of Notre Dame didn't make me furious (I didn't like the book), but it was eyebrow-raising to say the least.
That was actually the last traditional Disney film of any worth. They did a very good job with that movie, with fewer Disney tropes than the average and an absolutely superb Judge Claude Frollo with a knockout performance from the voice actor.
Not to mention some of the company's best music. Hellfire and the scene that accompanies it are incredibly powerful.
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njiska wrote:
Skykid wrote:
The very fact they made The Hunchback of Notre Dame didn't make me furious (I didn't like the book), but it was eyebrow-raising to say the least.
That was actually the last traditional Disney film of any worth. They did a very good job with that movie, with fewer Disney tropes than the average and an absolutely superb Judge Claude Frollo with a knockout performance from the voice actor.
Not to mention some of the company's best music. Hellfire and the scene that accompanies it are incredibly powerful.
Indeed, a terrific scene. That film surprised the hell out of me because I didn't expect to see Disney recapture any of their original artistry, ever - but the director genuinely went out on a limb to make it in a classical form.

Then came Mulan, one of the most boring pieces of shit ever committed to cel, and it's been downhill ever since.
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which is a shame becuase Mulan was thought to have been successful as where hunchback was thought to have bombed. Peoples attention span is getting smaller so the awesome grandiose musical numbers often get people going YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWN when is Eddie Murphy going to come on and say something funny in quick fire repetition so I don't have time to think.
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This movie totally turned out to be a chick flick. Like a Jersey Girl bait 'n switch. The quality is up there near Wedding Singer, luckily. Good film.
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I watched the movie today. I was disappointed the Gradius sound effect was removed, but I loved the movie.
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Skykid wrote:
The very fact they made The Hunchback of Notre Dame didn't make me furious (I didn't like the book), but it was eyebrow-raising to say the least.
That was actually the last traditional Disney film of any worth. They did a very good job with that movie, with fewer Disney tropes than the average and an absolutely superb Judge Claude Frollo with a knockout performance from the voice actor.
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Here's what I said about it in the Movies thread:

Just got back from Wreck-It Ralph. What a fantastic movie. Great characters, a heart warming story that will hit home with anyone stuck in a job they hate and some fantastic acting between John C. Riley and Sarah Silverman. Gaming references were numerous, but largely kept to the background and used in a way to give authenticity to the world, rather than drown the viewer with very specific in-jokes. Curiously Root Beer Tapper is just called Tapper, but is serving Root Beer instead of Budweiser.

Animation was great, as should be expected, with some serious work spent on making the characters feel authentic when the move. This is particularly noticeable with the people in Ralph's game. Art with there's a rich mix of 3D, 2D pixel-art and 3D interpertations of 2D art. They even tried to draw the phosphors of the arcade monitor when showing the world outside the game. Just a beautiful film. Credits are also a nice treat.
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I'm taking my three year old daughter to see this today. She keeps asking me to take her to see 'Wreck-It Elf.' I'm a pretty big fan of Disney's animated features and have most of the big name ones on BR. I am especially fond of Sleeping Beauty which has Eyvind Earle's awesome designs. I agree about Mulan not being very good. I saw it in the theater when it came out and that was the last time I saw it. Totally forgettable film. I am much more of a fan of the traditional animation but Tangled is actually pretty good imo.
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saw it last night, disney sure makes some good scanline/aperture faking :lol:
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We went and saw it at Chunky's and I thought the movie was pretty damn good. Better than I expected really. I want to play a Sugar Rush cart racer now.
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Haven't seen this yet myself, but the reviews I've seen have been mostly positive, and the thing did well at the box office.
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Octopod wrote:We went and saw it at Chunky's and I thought the movie was pretty damn good. Better than I expected really. I want to play a Sugar Rush cart racer now.
And the stupid thing is that Disney has partnered with Sega to get Ralph in Sonic & Sega All Stars Racing Transformed, but not Venelope. Baffles the mind.
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njiska wrote:And the stupid thing is that Disney has partnered with Sega to get Ralph in Sonic & Sega All Stars Racing Transformed, but not Venelope. Baffles the mind.
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BulletMagnet wrote:
njiska wrote:And the stupid thing is that Disney has partnered with Sega to get Ralph in Sonic & Sega All Stars Racing Transformed, but not Venelope. Baffles the mind.
DLC incoming, I'm sure.
Maybe, but it still seems very odd as they're trying to promote the film by doing this.
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njiska wrote:Here's what I said about it in the Movies thread:

Just got back from Wreck-It Ralph. What a fantastic movie. Great characters, a heart warming story that will hit home with anyone stuck in a job they hate and some fantastic acting between John C. Riley and Sarah Silverman. Gaming references were numerous, but largely kept to the background and used in a way to give authenticity to the world, rather than drown the viewer with very specific in-jokes. Curiously Root Beer Tapper is just called Tapper, but is serving Root Beer instead of Budweiser.

Animation was great, as should be expected, with some serious work spent on making the characters feel authentic when the move. This is particularly noticeable with the people in Ralph's game. Art with there's a rich mix of 3D, 2D pixel-art and 3D interpertations of 2D art. They even tried to draw the phosphors of the arcade monitor when showing the world outside the game. Just a beautiful film. Credits are also a nice treat.
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I completely agree. This movie turned out to be really great! I loved all the gaming characters translated to 3D, though I was a bit distracted away from the movie by trying to look at all the background characters and noting a lot of games: Dig dug, centipede, tapper, SF2, sonic, q-bert (obviously), pacman, mortal kombat, burgertime...and many more!
As an animator of 13 years, I was really glad to see the quality level was really high. The sprite-animated characters on the Fix-it-felix apartments made me smile, they had that choppy low-frame-style animation like sprites (similar to "animating on two's/three's", but had a bubbly squash-and-stretch style that made them really playful and up-beat looking.
I also liked how they had the Arcade Manager look like Walter Day! The ending quote was heartwarming "they call us Retro, which I guess means 'old' but cool." :lol:

Though I was disappointed that I didn't see any Williams games represented (Robotron, Defender, Joust), and that they spent half the movie in Sugur Rush land. I would have liked to see more re-imagining of some other games, but it was pretty cool to see the Tapper bar in 3D!

I was wondering why they ended up using the Mad-Hatter character from Alice in Wonderland as the King of Sugar Rush land. Disney getting hard pressed for new designs? Perhaps they figured kids wouldn't know who that is, since Alice is a bit scarier to kids now-a-days (I have neices that didn't like watching Alice 'cause of some of the scenes and characters frightened them...kids these days, sheesh!) But regardless, they translated him great! Even down to the lisp. I was pleasantly surprised!

Anyway, I give this movie two-thumbs-up! I'm excited to see it again with the nieces.
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opt2not wrote:I was wondering why they ended up using the Mad-Hatter character from Alice in Wonderland as the King of Sugar Rush land. Disney getting hard pressed for new designs? Perhaps they figured kids wouldn't know who that is, since Alice is a bit scarier to kids now-a-days (I have neices that didn't like watching Alice 'cause of some of the scenes and characters frightened them...kids these days, sheesh!) But regardless, they translated him great! Even down to the lisp. I was pleasantly surprised!

Anyway, I give this movie two-thumbs-up! I'm excited to see it again with the nieces.
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I was wondering that myself. Same wild hair out the sides, same nose, same mannerisms, hell even the same cadence of speech.
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-spoilers-
Saw it yesterday. Liked it - lots of great touches. Had some great moments, but overall didn't have the same broad appeal that Pixar films typically have. Although the wrecking of the kart was an unexpected moment of tragic heroism. I feel like they could've done a lot more with Turbo (there was a distinct paucity of villainry, IMO), not to mention Fix-It Felix Jr.

Didn't really mind it settled down in gay candy land - gave me an appetite for Pink Sweets. :D
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I washed my eyes with Robocop after seeing it this evening.
My head was saying: "video games!" the entire duration of the movie.
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At my local movie joint, there're three ways to watch Wreck-It-Ralph:

in non-3D format

in 3D format

and lastly, in 3D format with D-Box motion seat upgrade. This last option will set you back at $18.50 easily per person (at bargain matinee pricing, of course).

As for the WIR dedicated arcade cabs, Disney only had a handful made for promotional purposes. It was shown at the 2012 Classic Gaming Expo. It was set on Free Play for all CGE attendees to try out.

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They also had one of the Fix-it Felix cabs set up at the Gameworks in Seattle during PAX this year. I didn't get to try it out though, as the line for it was too long.
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