Illyrian wrote:
Personally I've never seen any of that on my journeys
So you don't see someone murdered every 2 1/2 working weeks?
Racists are everywhere. London does alright considering it's so multicultural. Actually, what am I saying, the more multicultural a society, the less racism, surely. There are far worse European capitals for racism.
Spain needs to give back all the gold and pay for the raw goods they pillaged from the Americas. If they had to do that, they'd be nothing more than another third-world Mexican state in Europe. Hahaha.
Just say the country where you live and I will list all the things your people has stolen from others
Much fail to read the sarcasm cum satire in hzt's post.
Apart from being highly amusing, it pertinently outlines the silliness in suggesting London is boiling over with public racial abuse because the lowest common denominator of society is seen mouthing off drunkenly on a train. That incident made national headline news and the individual in question was charged and sentenced.
London is one of the world's most multicultural cities and one of the most prolific in social mixing of ethnic groups. It's totally normal to see and have parties of friends who are white, Indian, black etc, and it's not thought of as unique or strange.
The US, from personal experience, is still light years ahead of any other country when it comes to inherent and violent racism. Caucasians and ethnic minorities in Philly and New York walk the streets like water and vinegar, as if social mixing is some kind of taboo. The only time I ever saw whites and blacks hanging out together was in the movies (safe distance.)
To come from a city where it's an established norm to interact with a multitude of ethnicities as equals, whose closest friends are Chinese, Vietnamese, Jamaican and Greek, I would have to answer the thread topic with 'no', racism isn't common in London, although racism exists the same as anywhere else. I've never witnessed firsthand an aggressive act of public racism in London, despite such dense cultural shoulder rubbing.
Spain needs to give back all the gold and pay for the raw goods they pillaged from the Americas. If they had to do that, they'd be nothing more than another third-world Mexican state in Europe. Hahaha.
Just say the country where you live and I will list all the things your people has stolen from others
Nah, just try Native Americans, Aztecs, Mayans, Inkas, and such... my people, so to speak
Spain needs to give back all the gold and pay for the raw goods they pillaged from the Americas. If they had to do that, they'd be nothing more than another third-world Mexican state in Europe. Hahaha.
Just say the country where you live and I will list all the things your people has stolen from others
Nah, just try Native Americans, Aztecs, Mayans, Inkas, and such... my people, so to speak
Um, they stole from each other, repeatedly.
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MX7 wrote:I'm not a fan of a racist, gun nut brony puking his odious and uninformed arguments over every thread that comes up.
True. We rarely ever - more like never - hear of Native American tribes taking land from other tribes, all the while destroying their culture, religion, traditions, language, and killing off the rest with small pox blankets.
Hell, if that's the case, then spain is further effed-up with the separatists laying claims to their own turf within that country
Spain needs to give back all the gold and pay for the raw goods they pillaged from the Americas. If they had to do that, they'd be nothing more than another third-world Mexican state in Europe. Hahaha.
Just say the country where you live and I will list all the things your people has stolen from others
Nah, just try Native Americans, Aztecs, Mayans, Inkas, and such... my people, so to speak
You can't be part of all those peoples, not to say that you are surely a mestizo.
People should know history more before saying an opinion about how someone conquered a country. You may now say that I'm an Idiotic spanish nationalist but let me tell you that I was born in Colombia, moved to Spain when I was 13 and I've studied history from both sides.
xbl0x180 wrote:Nah, just try Native Americans, Aztecs, Mayans, Inkas, and such... my people, so to speak
You can't be part of all those peoples, not to say that you are surely a mestizo.
People should know history more before saying an opinion about how someone conquered a country. You may now say that I'm an Idiotic spanish nationalist but let me tell you that I was born in Colombia, moved to Spain when I was 13 and I've studied history from both sides.
I was looking at it from the perspective of racial make-up. Mestizo is a mix, but I'm not mixed enough to be able to even grow a moustache, so I don't count that in spite of the name and primary language I speak. Honestly, I don't give a damn about spain and its history. The Falklands are deservedly British, so argenspain can go f themselves
Deservedly british wouldn't be the word I'd use... it's simply that people there are too british now to simply go back 300 years and become spanish... anyway, the falklands were almost inhabited when the british ocupied then.
I was joking with my remark about spain and the falklands...
O. Van Bruce wrote:Deservedly british wouldn't be the word I'd use... it's simply that people there are too british now to simply go back 300 years and become spanish... anyway, the falklands were almost inhabited when the british ocupied then.
I was joking with my remark about spain and the falklands...
And you thought I was serious about spain giving back the stuff they pillaged to the Americas Besides, it's too late since they already blew their economy down a vortex hahaha. Anyway, I don't know what other phrase I'd use to describe "argentina getting their arses royally kicked in a few months by the UK using an old, decommissioned warship." Deservedly British is probably the most succint and apt
O. Van Bruce wrote:Deservedly british wouldn't be the word I'd use... it's simply that people there are too british now to simply go back 300 years and become spanish... anyway, the falklands were almost inhabited when the british ocupied then.
I was joking with my remark about spain and the falklands...
And you thought I was serious about spain giving back the stuff they pillaged to the Americas Besides, it's too late since they already blew their economy down a vortex hahaha. Anyway, I don't know what other phrase I'd use to describe "argentina getting their arses royally kicked in a few months by the UK using an old, decommissioned warship." Deservedly British is probably the most succint and apt
Do you really believe that wars justifies possesion of a strap of land nowadays? besides, saying that they only used one old ship to "kick argentina's ass" is anything but a dumb and simplistic way of describing one of the most unbalanced wars on the XX century... besides, the british military force on that war was more than "an old decommisioned warship"
O. Van Bruce wrote:Deservedly british wouldn't be the word I'd use... it's simply that people there are too british now to simply go back 300 years and become spanish... anyway, the falklands were almost inhabited when the british ocupied then.
I was joking with my remark about spain and the falklands...
And you thought I was serious about spain giving back the stuff they pillaged to the Americas Besides, it's too late since they already blew their economy down a vortex hahaha. Anyway, I don't know what other phrase I'd use to describe "argentina getting their arses royally kicked in a few months by the UK using an old, decommissioned warship." Deservedly British is probably the most succint and apt
Do you really believe that wars justifies possesion of a strap of land nowadays? besides, saying that they only used one old ship to "kick argentina's ass" is anything but a dumb and simplistic way of describing one of the most unbalanced wars on the XX century... besides, the british military force on that war was more than "an old decommisioned warship"
Are you still joking? When have wars for the sake of pillaging ever been "justified"? So now you mean to say that it was fine and dandy when spanish rapists and murderers were busy destroying the peoples in the Americas I don't understand how you can rationalise it in one instance and then decry the other. It's the same thing.
And, yes, it was pretty much an old decomissioned, WWII warship that the British were using to pulverise the enemy. The argentinian military got their arses handed to them for trying to push their weight around. I'm sure this argentrash thought they could pull it off after murdering and terrorising their own people for almost a decade; the "malvinas" propaganda was just that - propaganda from some wacked out, 3rd world, banana republic, military junta. They were like The Keystone Cops once the UK came in and took care of biz. Hell, I wouldn't defend, nor sympathise with, anything the argentinian military did during those years
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Recently there have been some dispute over a small island near S. Korea about who owns it. Why is the Japanese government bringing those up now after S. Korea have been occupying them for 60+ years? Even 100 year old Japanese maps don't have those islands listed as part of their territory.
I'm assuming it's because Japanese don't have good natural resources and that island has some? Seems really pointless because it's obvious the Korean government isn't going to just go, "Here you go, even though we colonized this for 60 years and your maps don't even label as part of your territory."
I'm just interested what Japanese news / government are stating as why it belongs to them. It just blows my mind on how they could make a claim like that with a serious face. Even the S. Korean government thinks it's weird to even claim such a thing.
Ugh why make ties between those two countries worse for no substantial reason.
Actually Japan seems to be claiming a lot of islands as theres. Whats up with them? A Russian island and a Chinese island.
I've not read if anyone has replied, but nobody ever "relinquished" those islands to any one. And coincidentally, nobody gives a fuck about the islands. They want the resources around them. Fish, and possibly oil. This isn't new news in the least though, and isn't unique to those islands. Japan refers to it at Tanegashima. The same thing is happening in a 3-way fisting match with China/Taiwan/Japan over the Senkaku islands (technically these are owned by a Japanese private individual, according to Japan, and the mayor of Tokyo [a real piece of work I might add] has suggested that Tokyo Metropolitan Government buy them). There is another one that Japan & Russia are in a tiff over up North, but I'm pretty sure Russia is going to win that one.
But yes, it's all about resources. Japan has basically none.
RegalSin wrote:New PowerPuff Girls. They all have evil pornstart eyelashes.
Uh, this Malvinas / Falklands discussion is retarded. The war was a bad gamble from the military government back then (which was supported by the US just like most dictatorships at that time, since they were a way to prevent communism from spreading in their backyard, supposedly -though it was primarily a way to stop those countries from developing, in our particular case every government that cared about our country was overthrown by the US-UK aligned military aristocracy). They thought the UK wouldn't care about a couple of throwaway islands since it would demand way to much war effort from them, and the B plan was that if the UK actually cared and tried to invade, the US would intercede since they were in good relations and had diplomatic contacts that assured them the US would try to stop the UK from invading.
If the gamble worked, they would have skyrocketed their image in Argentina since the Malvinas thing has always been a delicate topic and a scar in our pride. But of course it didn't and it destroyed their already deteriorated support. So I think it was a good things ended up that way from that perspective. As for the islands being deservedly British (or Argentinian), I don't know. Military thievery has a better image than common thievery I guess, even if it's the same thing on a larger scale.
I remember when that happened and that whole OAS thing (Organisation of American States), which was supposedly an agreement between nations in the Americas coming to each other's defense in case of a conflict. But, come on, what sort of retard would try to take UK territory, knowing full well they are even better friends with the US? Everyone acted shocked, but at the same time, why be shocked at the obvious? The only reason to root for Argentina back then and go with that malvinas nonsense was merely a symbolic gesture against oppressive imperialism blah blah blah. The dumbarses running Argentina at that time should've known better since the US supported their underhanded tactics for decades... of course the US would just sit back and watch as the UK pounded the criminal, murdering argentrash military in the arse. I guess throwing live, innocent civilians off cargo airplanes didn't make them smart and strong enough to take on a real military conflict
But, come on, what sort of retard would try to take UK territory, knowing full well they are even better friends with the US?
China & Taiwan apparently. America has done a great job at staying out of it (something it rarely does) but they have gone on record that if they ever have to pick a side for any altercation in the region they will always side with their ally, Japan.
RegalSin wrote:New PowerPuff Girls. They all have evil pornstart eyelashes.
When I go to China I see Chinese, when I go to Spain I see Spanish.
When I go to the UK, I see Asians.
That is the problem. I didn't see any racism in that video. I just saw someone who felt their land was being invaded by foreigners. If anyone has been to Leicester you will see it as well. Sainsbury's in the middle of the city centre has all Asian workers and 90% of the customers are Asian too.
I am married to a Filipino and have a few Asian friends. But I am glad I live in a place where white people are the dominant ones. White people were what I grew up with and thats what made England "ENGLAND".
You can also bet that out of 10 people, 8 of them won't say anything, but they will think it.
Also to note. Asians out breed white people about 3/1. So its only going to get worse over time.
I am surprised this thread is about rasicm. I didn't hear that woman say anything degrading about their skin colour.
This industry has become 2 dimensional as it transcended into a 3D world.
neorichieb1971 wrote:
I am surprised this thread is about rasicm. I didn't hear that woman say anything degrading about their skin colour.
She said enough to do jail time for it. Her insinuations are basically racist, since most foreigners are considered 'British' by birthright these days. Surely you noticed we had a Somalian win two gold medals for us in the Olympic games.
Although I understand what you're saying (and I've been to Leicester) I would suggest framing your comments with a little more tact. The last time this arose I had to remind someone that unless you live in multicultural Britain, people will likely find your sentiment coarse.
This is an immigration problem. If you live in London and you sit in a underground tube carriage and your the only white person on it, I think you would raise an eyebrow.
I am totally for immigrants coming here. Just not in the numbers that they are. Thats not racism, thats being sensible. I don't even care if the immigrants are white. They are still immigrants.
This industry has become 2 dimensional as it transcended into a 3D world.
neorichieb1971 wrote:This is an immigration problem. If you live in London and you sit in a underground tube carriage and your the only white person on it, I think you would raise an eyebrow.
I know what you mean. I find myself to be the only whitey on the train all the time, and it is unsettling.
RegalSin wrote:New PowerPuff Girls. They all have evil pornstart eyelashes.
neorichieb1971 wrote:This is an immigration problem. If you live in London and you sit in a underground tube carriage and your the only white person on it, I think you would raise an eyebrow.
I am totally for immigrants coming here. Just not in the numbers that they are. Thats not racism, thats being sensible. I don't even care if the immigrants are white. They are still immigrants.
Hahaha. I wonder what you'd think of the criminal peasants that come to the U.S. illegally from the Mexican border to the tune of millions and millions. Here in the U.S., we'd just be happy if they knew how to read and write - and behave like decent people
neorichieb1971 wrote:This is an immigration problem. If you live in London and you sit in a underground tube carriage and your the only white person on it, I think you would raise an eyebrow.
I am totally for immigrants coming here. Just not in the numbers that they are. Thats not racism, thats being sensible. I don't even care if the immigrants are white. They are still immigrants.
xbl0x180 wrote:
Hahaha. I wonder what you'd think of the criminal peasants that come to the U.S. illegally from the Mexican border to the tune of millions and millions. Here in the U.S., we'd just be happy if they knew how to read and write - and behave like decent people
I don't think it's wrong to be pissed off to see your country being over run by immigrants to the point where your country begins to lose it's own identity.
What exactly did that woman get charged with? I can't believe she got jail time for it. I would have expected a fine or something.
Speaking of multicultural bullshit.. I woke up this morning to a loud fucking Muslim chant that was repeating about every 5 seconds for about an hour. I could hear it from inside my house. I followed the sound about a 1/3 of a mile away until a I couldn't go any further due to a fenced off highway.
It was being played over some kind of PA system. I called the cops and they said they'd check it out. It stopped about 1/2 an hour later.
I still haven't found out what it came from. I sure as fuck hope this doesn't become a common occurrence. It was intolerable.
neorichieb1971 wrote:This is an immigration problem. If you live in London and you sit in a underground tube carriage and your the only white person on it, I think you would raise an eyebrow.
I know what you mean. I find myself to be the only whitey on the train all the time, and it is unsettling.
GP, do you have a twitter? If not, please make one.
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O. Van Bruce wrote:As if the USA has ever had an "Identity" of its own.
yeah I get that the US has always been made up of a lot of immigrants. My comment was aimed more towards England, since I don't think that such high immigration has always been prevalent.
Besides, it's too late since they already blew their economy down a vortex hahaha. Anyway, I don't know what other phrase I'd use to describe "argentina getting their arses royally kicked in a few months by the UK using an old, decommissioned warship." Deservedly British is probably the most succint and apt 
Even the S. Korean government thinks it's weird to even claim such a thing.
