Op Intensify wrote:The double ridiculousness of the "everyone's cell phone is a surveillance camera" plot device
That was pretty ridiculous. A football stadium exploding and swallowing the players, but the stands are unaffected and the player with the ball doesn't even notice? TOTALLY PLAUSIBLE!
the absurd, emotionally manipulative "exploding boats" setpiece is enough to put TDK behind TDKR for me.
You mean the emotional climax of the film? The part where Batman gained the moral victory over the Joker? The point where the Joker's running theme that law-abiding citizens would turn into murderous savages once the social order is shaken up is proven wrong? A terrorist sneaking a bomb onto a commuter transport stretches suspension of disbelief to the breaking point for you?
The Plastic bag scene in American Beauty was emotionally manipulative. That movie was basically an anemic rip-off of Fight Club and the plastic bag, which had nothing to do with the larger themes driving the plot, was just there to try to elevate the rest of that movie with all the subtlety of a submarine blowing the ballast tanks. The boat scene in TDK, by contrast, naturally followed from the movie that preceded it.
Two working class dudes, one black one white, just baked a tray of ten cookies together.
An oligarch walks in and grabs nine cookies for himself.
Then he says to the white dude "Watch out for that black dude, he wants a piece of your cookie!"