Checked out the 3rd Batman flick, The Dark Knight Rises?

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God has it aged well. I could watch nine hours of Cillian Murphy's Scarecrow.
I'm sure you noticed his awesome bit part as the evil judge in TDKR.

Come to think of it, wouldn't the Joker be loose in Gotham again when Bane liberated the prison? I feel he would have had some role to play in the movie, had Ledger lived.
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Op Intensify wrote:
God has it aged well. I could watch nine hours of Cillian Murphy's Scarecrow.
I'm sure you noticed his awesome bit part as the evil judge in TDKR.

Come to think of it, wouldn't the Joker be loose in Gotham again when Bane liberated the prison? I feel he would have had some role to play in the movie, had Ledger lived.
The general comments from the crew indicate that if Ledger had not died he'd have been a part of the plot. However, since he did, they decided to strike all references from the film so for some respect reasons.
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Op Intensify wrote:Come to think of it, wouldn't the Joker be loose in Gotham again when Bane liberated the prison? I feel he would have had some role to play in the movie, had Ledger lived.
At the end of the Dark Knight, one of the angry cops made a "mistake" when untying the Joker from Batman's cable and he fell 10 stories to his death.
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spoiler warining

Just saw the movie.... Man, Selina was a perfect fit in the Batpod, funny how this bike debuted in the previous film but it seems to have been made specially for her

Great movie, nice put symbolisms, loved it
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njiska wrote: strike all references from the film so for some respect reasons.
I never understood this. Respect by consignment to oblivion?
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Ed Oscuro wrote:
njiska wrote: strike all references from the film so for some respect reasons.
I never understood this. Respect by consignment to oblivion?
I think the idea was to resist seeming exploitative, but they've never really gone into details.
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Kind of glad he was left out. Not b/c he was dead, but b/c the character was larger than life. How can you have him only in a sub-plot?
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I enjoyed the movie. I'd rank it alongside Batman Begins, but slightly behind TDK, which had the tightest script. The only real problems I had with TDKR were its fucked up audio mix and that one of its most interesting elements (an uprising against the privileged few) fizzled with no real resolution, instead becoming a third act climax that amounted to this: http://youtu.be/G4v1hAnfy1I
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The double ridiculousness of the "everyone's cell phone is a surveillance camera" plot device and the absurd, emotionally manipulative "exploding boats" setpiece is enough to put TDK behind TDKR for me.
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Op Intensify wrote:The double ridiculousness of the "everyone's cell phone is a surveillance camera" plot device
That was pretty ridiculous. A football stadium exploding and swallowing the players, but the stands are unaffected and the player with the ball doesn't even notice? TOTALLY PLAUSIBLE!
the absurd, emotionally manipulative "exploding boats" setpiece is enough to put TDK behind TDKR for me.
You mean the emotional climax of the film? The part where Batman gained the moral victory over the Joker? The point where the Joker's running theme that law-abiding citizens would turn into murderous savages once the social order is shaken up is proven wrong? A terrorist sneaking a bomb onto a commuter transport stretches suspension of disbelief to the breaking point for you?

The Plastic bag scene in American Beauty was emotionally manipulative. That movie was basically an anemic rip-off of Fight Club and the plastic bag, which had nothing to do with the larger themes driving the plot, was just there to try to elevate the rest of that movie with all the subtlety of a submarine blowing the ballast tanks. The boat scene in TDK, by contrast, naturally followed from the movie that preceded it.
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Daigohji wrote: that one of its most interesting elements (an uprising against the privileged few) fizzled with no real resolution, instead becoming a third act climax that amounted to this: http://youtu.be/G4v1hAnfy1I
You must have been very disappointed /w the Occupy movement "uprising" then.
That was pretty ridiculous. A football stadium exploding and swallowing the players, but the stands are unaffected and the player with the ball doesn't even notice? TOTALLY PLAUSIBLE!
Whew... for a minute there I thought I was watching a comic book movie.
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Just curious...how much does it look like this movie is going to make, domestically? It's surpassed TDK worldwide, but right now it sits at over 437 million US. TDK was about 577 million.

Where do you think it'll end up? Around 450 million?
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Mischief Maker wrote:
the absurd, emotionally manipulative "exploding boats" setpiece is enough to put TDK behind TDKR for me.
You mean the emotional climax of the film? The part where Batman gained the moral victory over the Joker? The point where the Joker's running theme that law-abiding citizens would turn into murderous savages once the social order is shaken up is proven wrong? A terrorist sneaking a bomb onto a commuter transport stretches suspension of disbelief to the breaking point for you?

The Plastic bag scene in American Beauty was emotionally manipulative. That movie was basically an anemic rip-off of Fight Club and the plastic bag, which had nothing to do with the larger themes driving the plot, was just there to try to elevate the rest of that movie with all the subtlety of a submarine blowing the ballast tanks. The boat scene in TDK, by contrast, naturally followed from the movie that preceded it.
I haven't seen TDKR, but that boat scene in TDK was a throwback to terrible 90s scripting and acting (actually, so is the Joker makeup, which just makes him look like he's dressed up as The Crow). The boat scene is not only manipulative, it *is* fairly unbelievable that the boat full of prisoners would be the calm and rational boat. It doesn't come off as brilliantly playing with your expectations and pre-concceived notions the way it thinks it is doing, it just comes off as hokey and forced. Ugh. I kept expecting Tom Hanks or Robin Williams to pop out at any moment. And the worst part is how anticlimactic that entire movie is. The Joker ceases to be an effective criminal at about an hour into the movie-- he's pretty much foiled at every turn, causing little more than property damage and hurt feelings in most cases. That film has no balls, and the '89 Joker was a lot more frightening.

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Watched The Dark Knight Rises a few days ago and DAMN it's long. It was an ok movie but some things seemed way off to me?

Spoilers ahead...

In the stock exchange heist. Where did the 5 bikes come from? Only Bane was wearing a helmet, as a delivery guy disguise, the others were already inside. Wouldn't people be alarmed if they hauled bikes into the exchange??

And how did broke ass Bruce Wayne get back to the states without money or a passport?

/spoilers


The bat bike has the dumbest design I've ever seen. The frame looks so fragile and those tires are rediculous. A bike needs rounded tires to turn properly and what would he need tires like that for anyway?

And what is this rumor that Joseph Gordon-Levitt is the new batman? how will that work? Bruce Wayne is still alive, but obviously wants out, and Gordon-Levitts real name is Robin. So the sidekick steps up?

anyways 7/10 from me.
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