Xbox 360 Going 2D crazy in Japan,Treasure,Cave,Alfa System

ThirdStrike · Post by **ThirdStrike** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:21 pm

According to www.insertcredit.com the Xbox 360 is going 2d crazy

CONFIRMED GAME LIST:

http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... 24502.html

More news at 1up.com:

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3143772

Today's Microsoft press conference about its new system, the Xbox 360, has revealed that many of the Japanese companies are doing games for the machine. Most are familiar with the big names: some of the smaller, more 2D focused developers working on the system include Treasure (new shooting game coming), Arc System Works (new melee fighting game), Cave Online, Idea Factory (Spectral Force 3, among others), SNK Playmore (Neo-Geo Battle Coliseum), Moss (new shooting game) and Alfa System.

My guess is:

Treasure : Project RS 3
Moss: Raiden 3 or Raiden Fighters Sequel
Arc System works : Guilty Gear Online Sequel
G.Rev : Senko No Ronde
Cave online : Tank Game, Espgaluda 2, Ibara
Playmore : Neo Geo Battle, KOF XI , Kof MI 2
Alfa System : Shikigami no Shiro 3

If this support actually happens there is a strong chance the Xbox 360 can succeed in Japan especially with the Arcade gamers.

Kron · Post by **Kron** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:26 pm

Its Arc System works that does the Guilty Gear series, Alfa System do Shikigami no Shiro.

Ex_Mosquito · Post by **Ex_Mosquito** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:27 pm

i doubt there will be anything 2D on the machine. Would be a waste really.

ThirdStrike · Post by **ThirdStrike** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:28 pm

Ex_Mosquito wrote:i doubt there will be anything 2D on the machine. Would be a waste really.

Sony thought the same thing about the Playstation 2 in the US

Valgar · Post by **Valgar** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:58 pm

umm I don't see Treasure on that list. They wouldn't make an Arcade game for a console anyway.

kidneythief · Post by **kidneythief** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:02 pm

both of treasure's arcade games have been released on console...

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:03 pm

This is impressive. I mean, how many shmups does the XBox have, about 3? This report suggests that more than that are already planned for the 360. That would be a big chunk of change, though, to import a 360+games.

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:07 pm

Which are the Shmups for the X-Box?
I only know Shikigami No Shiro 1 & 2 if I'm not mistaken?
Which is the 3rd one?

I thought Raiden III & Shikigami No SHiro were coming for the PS-2?...

Sabreman · Post by **Sabreman** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:16 pm

XBox has a version of Psyvariar 2 in Japan I believe.

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:23 pm

^^^ Yeah, that's the third. It's called Psyvariar Extend, IIRC.

ThirdStrike · Post by **ThirdStrike** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:29 pm

The following Shmups came out on XBOX

Shikigami No Shiro
Shikigami No Shiro Evolution
Shikigami No Shiro 2
Psyvariar 2 Extended Edition

So basically 4 seperate Shmup releases in Japan on Xbox

Geezer · Post by **Geezer** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:31 pm

Hmm, I'm slightly confused about the whole Cave thing

I thought the Cave we know and love was just "Cave", not "Cave Online". I'm slightly sceptical about Cave being onboard, but I really hope they are

If Cave are truly on board then Espgaluda 2 is practically guaranteed, I'd love to see Ketsui too

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:47 pm

ThirdStrike wrote:The following Shmups came out on XBOX

Shikigami No Shiro
Shikigami No Shiro Evolution
Shikigami No Shiro 2
Psyvariar 2 Extended Edition

So basically 4 seperate Shmup releases in Japan on Xbox

What's Shikigami No Shiro Evolution like?

PlasmoOrgasmO · Post by **PlasmoOrgasmO** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:51 pm

Well, don't expect too much...according to "Magic Box" Treasure is planning to develop a sequel to "Sin & Punishment" which probably means 2D gameplay but 3D graphics. Although I do believe that RS3 will happen sooner or later because so many fans are waiting for it and Treasure knows this.

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:52 pm

Geezer wrote: I thought the Cave we know and love was just "Cave", not "Cave Online". I'm slightly sceptical about Cave being onboard, but I really hope they are

I think Cave Online is a subsidiary of Cave. There's a link to Cave Online from the Cave website.

zakk · Post by **zakk** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:52 pm

Geezer wrote:Hmm, I'm slightly confused about the whole Cave thing

I thought the Cave we know and love was just "Cave", not "Cave Online". I'm slightly sceptical about Cave being onboard, but I really hope they are

If Cave are truly on board then Espgaluda 2 is practically guaranteed, I'd love to see Ketsui too

Cave Online is a seperate company formed for the 'online gaming' market. It's not wholly owned by Cave either, but I think it's 90% Cave owned at least. Honestly I'd be a bit leery of reading into this regarding any future game ports, as the 'arcade' side of Cave seems fairly content to let other people port their stuff.

ThirdStrike · Post by **ThirdStrike** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:57 pm

ST Dragon wrote:
ThirdStrike wrote:The following Shmups came out on XBOX

Shikigami No Shiro
Shikigami No Shiro Evolution
Shikigami No Shiro 2
Psyvariar 2 Extended Edition

So basically 4 seperate Shmup releases in Japan on Xbox
What's Shikigami No Shiro Evolution like?

Shikigami No Shiro Evolution is a Remix of Shikigami no shiro with a few more options and changed bullet patterns. Also i think it has a Anime opening not found in the Original version.

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:08 pm

Isn't there separate Red and Blue versions of Shikigami No Shiro Evolution with different extras?

That would make 5 different X-Box shmup releases then. ^^

Valgar · Post by **Valgar** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:13 pm

PlasmoOrgasmO wrote:Well, don't expect too much...according to "Magic Box" Treasure is planning to develop a sequel to "Sin & Punishment" which probably means 2D gameplay but 3D graphics. Although I do believe that RS3 will happen sooner or later because so many fans are waiting for it and Treasure knows this.

Here you go folks, this is proof right here just HOW shitty Magic Box is and that they should NEVER be trusted.

We Start HERE...

GI: Is there any chance we’ll see a sequel to Sin and Punishment?

Maegawa: We are considering it. We are very proud of the quality of that game, that’s why we’re thinking about it.

GI: We were both disappointed that that game never made it over to North America, because we both imported it and loved it, so that’s very good news!

Maegawa: We had finished the localization of the Nintendo 64 version, too. But still, it didn’t get released.

GI: [Billy] I’ll have to talk to some people over there. (laughs)

Maegawa: If we’re going to work on a Sin and Punishment sequel, the game has to be sold in America too. So if the fans want it they should make some noise. (laughs)

AND Magic Box comes out with this load of shit based upon that.

- Treasures is planning to develop a sequel to the hit Nintendo 64 title Sin & Punishment, the company is pleased with the quality of the game.

Valgar · Post by **Valgar** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:15 pm

both of treasure's arcade games have been released on console...

Yes they are ports of Arcade games. Treasure is first concerned with the game as an Arcade title. If it does bad there, then there is no hope of a port. They would NEVER announce an Arcade title to console first. That is ass backwards.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:38 pm

They would NEVER announce an Arcade title to console first. That is ass backwards.

Unless someone else floats the bill.

Geezer · Post by **Geezer** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:38 pm

Thanks for the info regarding Cave Online

I found the link on Cave's site just now, and the only info that I can find there is about a MMORPG, it would seem that their focus is entirely different to the Cave that develops shmups. Don't get too excited guys...

If we see any Cave stuff on the 360 it'll be from Arika or Taito imo.

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:56 pm

Seven Force wrote:Isn't there separate Red and Blue versions of Shikigami No Shiro Evolution with different extras?

That would make 5 different X-Box shmup releases then. ^^

As I understand it, there is:

Shikigami no Shiro
Shikigami no Shiro Evolution
Shikigami no Shiro Red
Shikigami no Shiro Blue
Shikigami no Shiro Rainbow

I was counting these all as one when I suggested that there are 3 shmups on XBox. Counting each separately, I suppose there are 7 altogether.

ThirdStrike · Post by **ThirdStrike** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:58 pm

professor ganson wrote:
Seven Force wrote:Isn't there separate Red and Blue versions of Shikigami No Shiro Evolution with different extras?

That would make 5 different X-Box shmup releases then. ^^
As I understand it, there is:

Shikigami no Shiro
Shikigami no Shiro Evolution
Shikigami no Shiro Red
Shikigami no Shiro Blue
Shikigami no Shiro Rainbow

I was counting these all as one when I suggested that there are 3 shmups on XBox. Counting each separately, I suppose there are 7 altogether.

Shikigami no Shiro RAINBOW? WTF

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:05 am

^^^I've been working too hard lately, so maybe I'm imagining things. I seem to recall seeing a Rainbow edition of SnS for XBox on EBay not too long ago. Now I'm really doubting myself. If I find it, I'll post a link.

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:12 am

Found a Rainbow Cover edition of Shikigami no Shiro Evolution at Play-Asia:
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-3l-70-1uw.html

Why couldn't they have had all these special editions for SnS II!?

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:34 am

"Rainbow" is what "Red" is referred to at Play Asia.

And you can't count just SnS Evolution as a third entry.

After some more research I can definitively say that these are the SnS games on XBox:

- Shikigami No Shiro
- Shikigami No Shiro Evolution Red
- Shikigami No Shiro Evolution Blue
- Shikigami No Shiro II

So with Psyvariar II that makes 5 shmups on XBox. Soon to be 6 when Xyanide is released.

kidneythief · Post by **kidneythief** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:37 am

It won't be surprising to see a lot more arcade ports to the 360, even from japan, seen as how more and more, arcade hardware is starting to look more and more like a PC. For instance, the Taito Type X. Since the 360 is designed with PC ports in mind (more or less), this is a boon to programmers developing for PC based arcade hardware. But I still don't want that ugly 360 in my house, damnit. Rather just buy the arc. hardware

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:30 am

Seven Force wrote:"Rainbow" is what "Red" is referred to at Play Asia.

And you can't count just SnS Evolution as a third entry.

After some more research I can definitively say that these are the SnS games on XBox:

- Shikigami No Shiro
- Shikigami No Shiro Evolution Red
- Shikigami No Shiro Evolution Blue
- Shikigami No Shiro II

So with Psyvariar II that makes 5 shmups on XBox. Soon to be 6 when Xyanide is released.

Yeah, I looked into it some more myself, and you have to be right, Seven Force. Five, soon to be six, shmups on Xbox, provided you don't count all the crap shmups available on Xbox Live Arcade.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:32 am

ThirdStrike wrote:According to www.insertcredit.com the Xbox 360 is going 2d crazy

CONFIRMED GAME LIST:

http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... 24502.html

More news at 1up.com:

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3143772

Today's Microsoft press conference about its new system, the Xbox 360, has revealed that many of the Japanese companies are doing games for the machine. Most are familiar with the big names: some of the smaller, more 2D focused developers working on the system include Treasure (new shooting game coming), Arc System Works (new melee fighting game), Cave Online, Idea Factory (Spectral Force 3, among others), SNK Playmore (Neo-Geo Battle Coliseum), Moss (new shooting game) and Alfa System.

My guess is:

Treasure : Project RS 3
Moss: Raiden 3 or Raiden Fighters Sequel
Arc System works : Guilty Gear Online Sequel
G.Rev : Senko No Ronde
Cave online : Tank Game, Espgaluda 2, Ibara
Playmore : Neo Geo Battle, KOF XI , Kof MI 2
Alfa System : Shikigami no Shiro 3

If this support actually happens there is a strong chance the Xbox 360 can succeed in Japan especially with the Arcade gamers.

Great news, but, again, how many of these games would even make it to the US market?? If it's most or all, then I'll start getting pumped.

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