Quick question...bootleg?

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:53 am

Noticed this auction, wasn't sure what to think:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Psikyo-Sengoku-Ace- ... dZViewItem

It's listed as a "Hong Kong distribution copy"...is that a euphemism for "bootleg," or is it just an "Asian version?" The fact that it has no instructions makes me a bit suspicious, not to mention the cheap price...also, the colors on the box look off, though that might just be the photo...he has similar "Hong Kong distribution copies" of Sengoku Basara up for sale, also with no instructions...

Anyone have any concrete info on this?

hizzle · Post by **hizzle** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 5:07 am

Heh, he also has Mushi and DDP: DOJ for 14.99 "buy it now", same with no instructions and everything.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mushi-Hime-Sama-Yea ... dZViewItem

gunbird18 · Post by **gunbird18** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 5:21 am

No concrete info for ya, but I smell iso in the mix. Hong Kong and other Asian nations are rife with DVDs of movies that haven't had an "official" DVD release here in the States. I'm sure they are good at putting these games together as well.

SFKhoa · Post by **SFKhoa** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 5:27 am

The font used on 'Playstation 2' on the psikyo pack isnn't even correct!

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 6:18 am

It's definitely a bootleg. I bought a couple of those locally when I was in the area.

As SFKhoa pointed out, the font on the bottom of the disc isn't correct.

You can see imperfections on the box art also. The spine art is folded over to the front, and the right side of the front cover is cut off (most noticeably on the PS logo in the upper right corner). Methinks his colour printer was running low in yellow ink too.

Geezer · Post by **Geezer** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 6:27 am

The spine on that DOJ is all wrong, there's no red section on my original copy and the Japanese characters don't take up that much space. Bootleg city I'm afraid

hikarutilmitt · Post by **hikarutilmitt** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 8:42 am

Probably one of the most tell-tale reasons for it being a bootleg, aside form the atrocious printing done, is that the disc has a white ring in the middle. My Japanese version certainly doesn't. Hell, I've never seen one with it that wasn't part of the disc art.

al138 · Post by **al138** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 4:01 pm

^^^

I agree, the white ring was the real dead giveaway. Combined with the fact that the cover looks homemade, I think this is a bootleg. However, if it plays and that's what you really want...

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 4:18 pm

C'mon, that was a little TOO obvious, wasn't it? No manual? HK distribution copy? The fact that it was so cheap? And that's a ripoff price for a bootleg copy anyway.

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 4:37 pm

At least these bootlegs don't say "Game" or "Gamestation 2" on them. Some boots really do have writing that silly on them.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 8:35 pm

Actually, just to avoid having to make another topic for this, here's another item I can't say I've ever seen before...

http://cgi.ebay.com/SENGOKU-BLADE-Japan ... dZViewItem

The guy says outright that the game is "missing the bonus disc," but I've honestly only seen the 2-disc version of this available before...is the "1-disc" version on sale here "official," or did the guy just cook up a replacement case by himself? I can't tell if the thing in the front is an instruction booklet or not...I don't think it's a bootleg, but I wonder if anyone else has ever seen anything else like this.

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 8:43 pm

BulletMagnet wrote:Actually, just to avoid having to make another topic for this, here's another item I can't say I've ever seen before...

http://cgi.ebay.com/SENGOKU-BLADE-Japan ... dZViewItem

The guy says outright that the game is "missing the bonus disc," but I've honestly only seen the 2-disc version of this available before...is the "1-disc" version on sale here "official," or did the guy just cook up a replacement case by himself? I can't tell if the thing in the front is an instruction booklet or not...I don't think it's a bootleg, but I wonder if anyone else has ever seen anything else like this.

It looks like just a replacement case with the manual on forum and disc one of the game. That thing on front is definatly the instruction booklet.

Post by **nZero** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 9:33 pm

BrianC wrote:At least these bootlegs don't say "Game" or "Gamestation 2" on them. Some boots really do have writing that silly on them.

Gamecast

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 9:49 pm

BrianC wrote:
BulletMagnet wrote:Actually, just to avoid having to make another topic for this, here's another item I can't say I've ever seen before...

http://cgi.ebay.com/SENGOKU-BLADE-Japan ... dZViewItem

The guy says outright that the game is "missing the bonus disc," but I've honestly only seen the 2-disc version of this available before...is the "1-disc" version on sale here "official," or did the guy just cook up a replacement case by himself? I can't tell if the thing in the front is an instruction booklet or not...I don't think it's a bootleg, but I wonder if anyone else has ever seen anything else like this.
It looks like just a replacement case with the manual on forum and disc one of the game. That thing on front is definatly the instruction booklet.

Yeah, and oddly enough, he has the back insert but not the front insert. No reason for suspicion there although the price is by no means a deal.

takohiko · Post by **takohiko** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:26 pm

nZero wrote:
BrianC wrote:At least these bootlegs don't say "Game" or "Gamestation 2" on them. Some boots really do have writing that silly on them.
Gamecast

One of the weirdest I've seen was "Hot Kid Color" on a GBC game.. and a Famicom clone called the "Family Gameputer", which seems like an oddly clever name for a bootleg.

Ord · Post by **Ord** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:01 pm

BulletMagnet wrote:Actually, just to avoid having to make another topic for this, here's another item I can't say I've ever seen before...

http://cgi.ebay.com/SENGOKU-BLADE-Japan ... dZViewItem

The guy says outright that the game is "missing the bonus disc," but I've honestly only seen the 2-disc version of this available before...is the "1-disc" version on sale here "official," or did the guy just cook up a replacement case by himself? I can't tell if the thing in the front is an instruction booklet or not...I don't think it's a bootleg, but I wonder if anyone else has ever seen anything else like this.

That seller is great and totally cool. It's the forum member SuperPang and i've delt with him before.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:30 am

Ah, is that who that is? I remember seeing the name "SuperPang" around here some time back.

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:36 am

And just in case somebody is really tempted, no, this auction is also a bootleg. Besides the obvious hints, the other obvious clue is that there was no Asian version of the game:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Do-Don-Pachi-Daiouj ... dZViewItem

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:12 pm

Geezer wrote:The spine on that DOJ is all wrong, there's no red section on my original copy and the Japanese characters don't take up that much space. Bootleg city I'm afraid

truth. my copy of Mushi doesn't have the red "DVD" on the spine, either. :/

selling CDR's is outlawed on Ebay, this shit is no different.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 2:11 am

Here's another one I haven't seen before...

http://cgi.ebay.com/RADIANT-SILVERGUN-S ... dZViewItem

The RSG soundtrack comes in a regular ol' CD case, right?

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 2:17 am

http://cgi.ebay.com/RAYMAN-2-Game-Boy-C ... dZViewItem Strangely enough, I think this is actually real. Notice the battery and DMG letters are in the right place? I heard that Rayman 2 GBC actually got a limited US release. It didn't show up in many stores or get reviewed at many sites, but I have heard from reliable sources that it actually came out in the US.

Another one that may not be a fake. An actual Cube game for the b/w GB. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... _Stores_IT

SAM · Post by **SAM** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:53 am

I cann't believe you guys talked about it for days and do nothing about it.

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Never ever report this case to eBay, as they just supends the offender's account and make investigation harder to carry out. The offender would just open another eBay account and start selling again.
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If you really want to do somthing about it, you should report the case to the "U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Department", so that they would lock them in jail.

To report the case, please fill in the online "National IRR (Intellectual Property Rights) Coordination Center Complaint Referral Form",

http://www.ice.gov/graphics/cornerstone/ipr/IPRForm.htm

or drop them an email at "iprcenter@customs.treas.gov".

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If the seller is located in Hong Kong, you should report it to the Hong Kong's "Customs and Excise Department" instead.

http://www.customs.gov.hk/eng/contant_us_e.html