XRGB-mini Framemeister

[RGB32E]

I'm fairly certain my Atari Jaguar didn't work either, also Saturn but that was probably due to a poor SCART cable at the time (although, said cable still worked with the TV).

With the Jaguar RGB cable I built for my mini I experience no dropouts or issues, and the PQ is better on the mini than on the XRGB-3! Where did you get the cable you're using?


Also, I think I've figured out a solution for getting HQ RGBS output from any SNES!

I need to add AES/EBU output to my Sega Saturn! This unit is working really well with my SNES S/PDIF BTW - http://www.cambridgeaudio.com/summary.php?PID=951

[Fudoh]

You're not helping with statements like that:

Also, I think I've figured out a solution for getting HQ RGBS output from any SNES

more details please!

Is the DACMagic100 available yet in the US ? I've read the news over here about 2 weeks ago, but it seemed like an early announcement. I also couldn't find any price infos over here. The predecessor was about 500 EUR.

[Fudoh]

I'm having a hard time though getting nice scanlines on Wii no matter what output resolution i choose. Is there any way to adjust the scanlines manually, or am i limited to Frame Meister mode?

yes, you're limited to Framemeister mode. The scanlines are probably misaligned for your Wii, so Micomsoft needs to add an odd/even switch first via FW upgrade.

[Konsolkongen]

What are those EDID options on the Mini? It's set to automatically get information from your TV of course but it also seems like you can load your own EDID settings from the SD card? Perhaps fiddling with this could help those with TV's that won't display a troublesome system like the MVS (did anyone have problems anymore with MVS and the Mini?).
I'm just guessing of course, but I think it's interesting that there is such an option.

[Fudoh]

No, it's basically damage control. Prevents the Mini from sending 1080p60 if you have a display which can only display 1080i60.

Completely unrelated: does the Mini pass 3D signals, e.g. 720p120 from a PS3 ?

[Konsolkongen]

Ah okay

[grahf]

I'm not sure if this has been covered, but do any of the XRGBs have an auto-scale feature? (To get rid of the horizontal bars on some resolutions)

[Seraphic]

Completely unrelated: does the Mini pass 3D signals, e.g. 720p120 from a PS3 ?

I doubt it would pass the 1280x1470p (Xbox 360 does the same 3D output), but I can test. Set PS3 to 720p3D and mini to what?

[Shining]

So my Euro scart adapter from Retro Accessories arrived yesterday:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Micomsoft-XRG ... 2ebc39ee6b

First i connected it through my scart switch and i got weird artifacts all over the screen. Then i tried connecting my RGB scart cables directly to the adapter and what i got was pure 240p goodness! At least for SNES and Genesis. I really didn't expect it to be this sharp

I can sadly confirm though that the PSone SCPH-101 dont work correctly. I get dropouts every 5 seconds and the picture is all twitchy. Do you think it is a cable issue, or will the XSync-1 or Sync Strike solve this issue? Maybe i'm better of getting a PS2?

And as for my PC Engine Duo-RX.. I bought it in 2007 from VideoGameImports.com and it's RGB modded. I get no picture whatsoever but i do get sound. I have never had any problems connecting it directly to my TV. What do you think might be the issue here?

The only info regarding the RGB mod i got is this:
"The RGB mod is the best you will find anywhere. The actual conversion technique is fantastic and the picture quality is VASTLY better than the standard composite. There are no downsides. The colour booster is essential, otherwise the picture is very dull. We have a colour booster built into the conversion, rather than as an extension cable or something like that, because extension cables always degrade the picture quality; better boost the signal right at the source, which is the PC Engine's motherboard."

[RGB32E]

Oh, what do the H/V_Polarity settings do?

Selecting the H_Polarity setting (don't even need to change the setting) adds ringing to the picture and is only removed via factory reset. It's a bug in the firmware.

I can sadly confirm though that the PSone SCPH-101 dont work correctly. I get dropouts every 5 seconds and the picture is all twitchy. Do you think it is a cable issue, or will the XSync-1 or Sync Strike solve this issue?

Any sync stripper should work.

Maybe i'm better of getting a PS2?

You could do that too! Seems like half of the playstation 1/2 models don't work with the mini without some sort of sync processing (i.e. stripping).

And as for my PC Engine Duo-RX.. I bought it in 2007 from VideoGameImports.com and it's RGB modded. I get no picture whatsoever but i do get sound. I have never had any problems connecting it directly to my TV. What do you think might be the issue here?

You could always open up the system and share a photo to identify the particular RGB mod used?

[RGB32E]

I'll admit to not owning a Jaguar to check. I'll have a compatibility list for a basic model today.

Where's that list?

Jaguar on the mini is as simple as a RGBS connection with no additional parts... skip using RGBCv (SCART).

[Shining]

Any sync stripper should work.

Great, guess i'll check those out. So how will i go about hooking one of those up to the euro scart adapter going into the Mini?
Sorry, i'm a complete amateur when it comes to this.

You could always open up the system and share a photo to identify the particular RGB mod used?

Will do!

[Fudoh]

Selecting the H_Polarity setting (don't even need to change the setting) adds ringing to the picture and is only removed via factory reset. It's a bug in the firmware.

It's a bug, yes, but if it occurs, you only have to move the V_SCALER slider. No need for a reset.

[RGB32E]

Selecting the H_Polarity setting (don't even need to change the setting) adds ringing to the picture and is only removed via factory reset. It's a bug in the firmware.

It's a bug, yes, but if it occurs, you only have to move the V_SCALER slider. No need for a reset.

Ahh... that's right! I forgot how to correct that via settings.

[RGB32E]

Any sync stripper should work.

Great, guess i'll check those out. So how will i go about hooking one of those up to the euro scart adapter going into the Mini?
Sorry, i'm a complete amateur when it comes to this.

A LM1881 would work. I could build you a sync stripping adapter, but I think the eBay seller has things all ready to ship... might be easier, but cannot attest to the quality so I can't recommend.

Alternatively you could get an Extron RGB interface (search eBay for "Extron RGB"), but the inputs are typically VGA connectors and the outputs are BNCs. Hence, you'd need a SCART to VGA adapter and a 4 BNC to XRGB mini (or SCART) adapter to use it in most configs involving SCART (e.g. SCART switcher to mini).

[Shining]

Any sync stripper should work.

Great, guess i'll check those out. So how will i go about hooking one of those up to the euro scart adapter going into the Mini?
Sorry, i'm a complete amateur when it comes to this.

A LM1881 would work. I could build you a sync stripping adapter, but I think the eBay seller has things all ready to ship... might be easier, but cannot attest to the quality so I can't recommend.

Alternatively you could get an Extron RGB interface (search eBay for "Extron RGB"), but the inputs are typically VGA connectors and the outputs are BNCs. Hence, you'd need a SCART to VGA adapter and a 4 BNC to XRGB mini (or SCART) adapter to use it in most configs involving SCART (e.g. SCART switcher to mini).

That's very kind of you and thanks for all the tips, but this is getting too complicated. My better half will not be happy with all these cables and boxes . I think i'm much better off replacing my PS1 with a PS2, if those are confirmed to work. Preferably a PS2 Slim.

Will post pictures of my PC Engine this weekend.

[Thjodbjorn]

That's very kind of you and thanks for all the tips, but this is getting too complicated. My better half will not be happy with all these cables and boxes . I think i'm much better off replacing my PS1 with a PS2, if those are confirmed to work. Preferably a PS2 Slim.

Will post pictures of my PC Engine this weekend.

I have a PS2 slim that works pretty well with the mini. I've not had any issues so far.

[Shining]

That's very kind of you and thanks for all the tips, but this is getting too complicated. My better half will not be happy with all these cables and boxes . I think i'm much better off replacing my PS1 with a PS2, if those are confirmed to work. Preferably a PS2 Slim.

Will post pictures of my PC Engine this weekend.

I have a PS2 slim that works pretty well with the mini. I've not had any issues so far.

Great to hear! Is it hooked up via RGB scart or component?

[Fudoh]

You can do both. Component supports 480p from PS2 games, while RGB has less noise in the picture.

[Thjodbjorn]

It's hooked up via component to a d-terminal adapter. I have noticed a teeny bit of noise specifically in some of the Mega Man backgrounds (from the anniversary collection), but nothing too bad. Maybe I should find and try an RGB cable, too.

But the 240p stuff just looks crazy fantastic.

Edit: so I guess "no issues" isn't really true. Just no problems actually playing, and I didn't notice the noise on most games so far.

[Konsolkongen]

I have used three different PAL PS2 models with the Mini without any problems. A fat 30004 (RGB and component), a slim 77004 (RGB and component) and a slim 9000X the one with build in PSU (only tried component though).

[Retro Access]

Can anyone tell me if this issue with output to a HDMI capture card has been fixed in the latest firmware revisions?

[Retro Access]

It's hooked up via component to a d-terminal adapter. I have noticed a teeny bit of noise specifically in some of the Mega Man backgrounds (from the anniversary collection), but nothing too bad. Maybe I should find and try an RGB cable, too.

But the 240p stuff just looks crazy fantastic.

Edit: so I guess "no issues" isn't really true. Just no problems actually playing, and I didn't notice the noise on most games so far.

I'd say out of all my console inputs I am most blown away by PS2. Using RGB at the moment, going to order the adaptor for component and try to reduce any noise in the cables.

[Seraphic]

Completely unrelated: does the Mini pass 3D signals, e.g. 720p120 from a PS3 ?

Fudoh, tested both Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 and what do you know? The Mini is passing the 3D content!
Input is 1280x1470p60 and Mini outputs 1280x1470p60. However, the Mini is not sending the 3D flag and you must set display manually to over/under 3D.
Take note that the picture quality seems to be degraded and blurry though vs direct connection from Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 to 3D display.

[Fudoh]

Thanks for testing this ! Would have taken me ages to take out and hook up my PS3....

[Seraphic]

No problem. Also, when I tested, I had Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 set to 720p and the Mini to 720p output as well.

[Zapf]

Can anyone tell me if this issue with output to a HDMI capture card has been fixed in the latest firmware revisions?

I don't think there has been a firmware revision since the first one early on in the release (someone let me know if I'm mistaken).

[Retro Access]

Now you get a hint of how busy I am. Not actually had time to even check the site, I've left it on the firmware it came with. I am very interested in being able to capture video with it though.

[Retro Access]

So my Euro scart adapter from Retro Accessories arrived yesterday:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Micomsoft-XRG ... 2ebc39ee6b

First i connected it through my scart switch and i got weird artifacts all over the screen. Then i tried connecting my RGB scart cables directly to the adapter and what i got was pure 240p goodness! At least for SNES and Genesis. I really didn't expect it to be this sharp

I can sadly confirm though that the PSone SCPH-101 dont work correctly. I get dropouts every 5 seconds and the picture is all twitchy. Do you think it is a cable issue, or will the XSync-1 or Sync Strike solve this issue? Maybe i'm better of getting a PS2?

And as for my PC Engine Duo-RX.. I bought it in 2007 from VideoGameImports.com and it's RGB modded. I get no picture whatsoever but i do get sound. I have never had any problems connecting it directly to my TV. What do you think might be the issue here?

The only info regarding the RGB mod i got is this:
"The RGB mod is the best you will find anywhere. The actual conversion technique is fantastic and the picture quality is VASTLY better than the standard composite. There are no downsides. The colour booster is essential, otherwise the picture is very dull. We have a colour booster built into the conversion, rather than as an extension cable or something like that, because extension cables always degrade the picture quality; better boost the signal right at the source, which is the PC Engine's motherboard."

Hello,

I as going to respond to your email in my ebay inbox but I see you posted here too.

I have a new version which takes 5V from the XRGB power supply now, the components just arrived. If you want you are welcome to exchange for the new one.

[Fudoh]

To capture the output on a broadcast capture device like a Blackmaigc you have to disable the V_SYNC option. On the initial fw, it wouldn't stay off for most sources. I think the problem persists for SOME sources, while on others it may work now. Simply check the FULL_STATUS page and see what the output frequency says. It has to be unlocked 59.94Hz. If it says locked 60Hz, the capture won't work.