The BIG thread of Shmup grievances.
Re: The BIG thread of Shmup grievances.
Fake/failed autofire. See: Asuka & Asuka in MAME.
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DrTrouserPlank
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Re: The BIG thread of Shmup grievances.
Triggerheart is definitely impossible.
It can go in the pile of all the other shooters I've got that are fucking ridiculously stupid.
It can go in the pile of all the other shooters I've got that are fucking ridiculously stupid.
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Re: The BIG thread of Shmup grievances.
How many not-impossible shooters do we have left on your list?
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DrTrouserPlank
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Re: The BIG thread of Shmup grievances.
The list of not-impossible shooters has yet to have any entries on it. All the games I own are impossible. Don't think there are actually any shooters that are possible to complete.Sapz wrote:How many not-impossible shooters do we have left on your list?
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Re: The BIG thread of Shmup grievances.
Tried it a while back and it seemed just as hard as everything else.mesh control wrote:Play DFK 1.5 with strong mode and ignore scoringz
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Bananamatic
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Re: The BIG thread of Shmup grievances.
PS2 DOJ, turn on No Bullets mode
still too hard I guess
still too hard I guess
Re: The BIG thread of Shmup grievances.
My 6 year olds were proficient at survival mode 1.5 strong, and they were actually 5 at the time.DrTrouserPlank wrote:Tried it a while back and it seemed just as hard as everything else.mesh control wrote:Play DFK 1.5 with strong mode and ignore scoringz
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Re: The BIG thread of Shmup grievances.
mesh control wrote:Play DFK 1.5 with strong mode and ignore scoringz
lolDrTrouserPlank wrote:Gave it 2 attempts. Lost all lives by about mid-way through stage 4. Don't like the game at all though. Ship is too twitchy using shot and I can barely see what is going on through all the fucking explosions and medals.
Unless there's something I don't know it's ridiculously difficult. Without a hyper or bomb for most of stage 3 onwards it looks completely impossible because the screen is flooded constantly.
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DrTrouserPlank
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Re: The BIG thread of Shmup grievances.
Problem with shooters is they are either much too hard or much too easy. None of them are anywhere inbetween.Bananamatic wrote:PS2 DOJ, turn on No Bullets mode
still too hard I guess
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DrTrouserPlank
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Yup, I pretty much stand by that. Without infinite hyper from stage 3 onwards it's bullshit.RNGmaster wrote:lolDrTrouserPlank wrote:Gave it 2 attempts. Lost all lives by about mid-way through stage 4. Don't like the game at all though. Ship is too twitchy using shot and I can barely see what is going on through all the fucking explosions and medals.
Unless there's something I don't know it's ridiculously difficult. Without a hyper or bomb for most of stage 3 onwards it looks completely impossible because the screen is flooded constantly.
To go "full-Plank" - colloquial - To experience disproportionate levels of frustration as a result of resistance to completing a task. Those who go "full-Plank" very rarely recover.
Re: The BIG thread of Shmup grievances.
Planky, please forgive me if this sounds condescending as I don't mean to be, but since you seem relatively new to shmups in general, are you familiar with the concept of "rank"? Most shmups become harder on the fly - by making bullet patterns faster and more dense - if they notice you're doing particularly well (sometimes by how many power-ups you have, how long you've been on the current life, and other such things, but what exactly determines rank depends on the game). Rank can make it difficult to accurately gauge the difficulty of one shmup against another. Gokujou Parodius can be either piss easy or as crazy as arcade Gradius 3 due to rank.
As an example, I notice you have a score of over 200 million at the stage 5 boss on Futari 1.5 Original. At the end of my 1CC run, after all the endgame bonuses, I still hadn't broken 200 million. If you'd kept the score down during that run, you might have been able to squeeze a victory.
As an example, I notice you have a score of over 200 million at the stage 5 boss on Futari 1.5 Original. At the end of my 1CC run, after all the endgame bonuses, I still hadn't broken 200 million. If you'd kept the score down during that run, you might have been able to squeeze a victory.
Don't you have DeathSmiles IIX? Give that a try. I have a feeling the low difficulty will actually disappoint you.DrTrouserPlank wrote:The list of not-impossible shooters has yet to have any entries on it. All the games I own are impossible. Don't think there are actually any shooters that are possible to complete.Sapz wrote:How many not-impossible shooters do we have left on your list?
Re: The BIG thread of Shmup grievances.
Check this section out, you may find evidence of shooting games that are possible to complete there.DrTrouserPlank wrote: The list of not-impossible shooters has yet to have any entries on it. All the games I own are impossible. Don't think there are actually any shooters that are possible to complete.
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DrTrouserPlank
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I still haven't opened it but I'll give it a go.Annoyboy wrote:Planky, please forgive me if this sounds condescending as I don't mean to be, but since you seem relatively new to shmups in general, are you familiar with the concept of "rank"? Most shmups become harder on the fly - by making bullet patterns faster and more dense - if they notice you're doing particularly well (sometimes by how many power-ups you have, how long you've been on the current life, and other such things, but what exactly determines rank depends on the game). Rank can make it difficult to accurately gauge the difficulty of one shmup against another. Gokujou Parodius can be either piss easy or as crazy as arcade Gradius 3 due to rank.
As an example, I notice you have a score of over 200 million at the stage 5 boss on Futari 1.5 Original. At the end of my 1CC run, after all the endgame bonuses, I still hadn't broken 200 million. If you'd kept the score down during that run, you might have been able to squeeze a victory.
Don't you have DeathSmiles IIX? Give that a try. I have a feeling the low difficulty will actually disappoint you.DrTrouserPlank wrote:The list of not-impossible shooters has yet to have any entries on it. All the games I own are impossible. Don't think there are actually any shooters that are possible to complete.Sapz wrote:How many not-impossible shooters do we have left on your list?
I know about rank in games but in futari I know it's tied to the counter, and 200M or not, I rarely get my counter to 20,000, occasionally it gets to 25k but that's usually in stage 3 and a death or a few bombs usually brings it down pretty quickly. It's not as if I'm playing it with a high counter consistently.
I've tried some of those games in that section and can confirm that they are indeed impossible.Skykid wrote:Check this section out, you may find evidence of shooting games that are possible to complete there.DrTrouserPlank wrote: The list of not-impossible shooters has yet to have any entries on it. All the games I own are impossible. Don't think there are actually any shooters that are possible to complete.
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Re: The BIG thread of Shmup grievances.
Consider getting a pair of these
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DrTrouserPlank
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Re: The BIG thread of Shmup grievances.
Do I have to swallow them whole or can I chew them?Bananamatic wrote:Consider getting a pair of these
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Re: The BIG thread of Shmup grievances.
Try something from this thread: http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=16948

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DrTrouserPlank
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Lmao, I only started playing triggerheart again yesterday after a little break and I'm more pissed off now than I've been for weeks.
I can only assume that you literally need to spend many many hundreds of hours on each individual game to get anywhere near to completing them because there is zero carry over from one game to the next.
I can only assume that you literally need to spend many many hundreds of hours on each individual game to get anywhere near to completing them because there is zero carry over from one game to the next.
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Re: The BIG thread of Shmup grievances.
You literally need to stop playing STGs.DrTrouserPlank wrote:Lmao, I only started playing triggerheart again yesterday after a little break and I'm more pissed off now than I've been for weeks.
I can only assume that you literally need to spend many many hundreds of hours on each individual game to get anywhere near to completing them because there is zero carry over from one game to the next.
Re: The BIG thread of Shmup grievances.
Voluntarily doing something unfun is possibly the dumbest way of spending your spare time.
Re: The BIG thread of Shmup grievances.
I told you to try R-Type Delta, but did you listen?DrTrouserPlank wrote:The list of not-impossible shooters has yet to have any entries on it. All the games I own are impossible. Don't think there are actually any shooters that are possible to complete.
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TrevHead (TVR)
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Re: The BIG thread of Shmup grievances.
Gah! fucking backspace acting as back (alt+left) strikes again
I think you need to go and play some doujins for a while mate, theyre easy and rewarding and Ill go and beat a couple when arcade shmups are kicking my arse
genetos (the only stg ive cleared first try and im shit)
bluewish resurrection / plus (autobomb, slow bullets, good entry stg for L2P)
edens aegis (bullet cancel well and you dont have dodge half the time)
samidare (not easy but its only 3 stages)
Zop / zop black (visual style didnt gell with me, but the gameplay is spot on)
exceed 3rd black package (click on my sig for my review)
zen-ichi (ramps up in stages 4-5, but stage 3 is so much fun)
jamestown (if you have a shit pc dont bother, its quite hungry for sys reqs)
touhou (been a retard & dressing as a loli is not mandetory)
demolition gunner: isad (easy and fun)
score rush, nomltest fs & kenta cho (good practice stgs)
also play some rail shooters like rez, sin and punishment 2, child of eden
also isnt castle of the shikigami easy?

I think you need to go and play some doujins for a while mate, theyre easy and rewarding and Ill go and beat a couple when arcade shmups are kicking my arse
genetos (the only stg ive cleared first try and im shit)
bluewish resurrection / plus (autobomb, slow bullets, good entry stg for L2P)
edens aegis (bullet cancel well and you dont have dodge half the time)
samidare (not easy but its only 3 stages)
Zop / zop black (visual style didnt gell with me, but the gameplay is spot on)
exceed 3rd black package (click on my sig for my review)
zen-ichi (ramps up in stages 4-5, but stage 3 is so much fun)
jamestown (if you have a shit pc dont bother, its quite hungry for sys reqs)
touhou (been a retard & dressing as a loli is not mandetory)
demolition gunner: isad (easy and fun)
score rush, nomltest fs & kenta cho (good practice stgs)
also play some rail shooters like rez, sin and punishment 2, child of eden
also isnt castle of the shikigami easy?
Re: The BIG thread of Shmup grievances.
DTP did you ever play deathsmiles 1? That only took me <5 hours to 1cc (arcade rank restrictions) and I'm no means a great player.
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that thought does enter my mind tbh 2 tries of THE kinda gives it away, if he does the same with genetos its a dead give awayhzt wrote:I think TrouserPlank (I do not believe he is a real doctor) is intentionally trying to create a thread that is like a parody of the forum.
It wouldnt surpise me if he is really good at stgs and can beat DOJ death label with in an inverted joystick. Or he's ZUN trolling all us touhou haters

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Re: The BIG thread of Shmup grievances.
Hey, he didn't go to Impossible school for weeks just to be called MrTrouserPlank now did he?hzt wrote:I think TrouserPlank (I do not believe he is a real doctor) is intentionally trying to create a thread that is like a parody of the forum.

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Re: The BIG thread of Shmup grievances.
Play Major Stryker today; thank me tomorrow. Then you can graduate to Air Attack in MAME.DrTrouserPlank wrote:Triggerheart is definitely impossible.
It can go in the pile of all the other shooters I've got that are fucking ridiculously stupid.
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Re: The BIG thread of Shmup grievances.
I second the Deathsmiles suggestion. Rank 1/2 is damn easy, and it's not hard to obtain anymore since it's out in like every region of the world.
In fact I 1CCed the game just a few days ago using Rank 3 4 times and Rank 2 the other times to reach a suicide-bullet-less Castle stage.
In fact I 1CCed the game just a few days ago using Rank 3 4 times and Rank 2 the other times to reach a suicide-bullet-less Castle stage.