Correct, ketsuipatchi is only available on the BL boxed version, probably added as a sweetener.antron wrote:Is it correct that ketsuipachi is not available as DLC for the Japanese 1.5? But Black label is?
What about the PAL/USNTSC Resurrection? any DLC (or plans for some)?
thanks
So you enjoy these games but not for reasons related to playing them?O. Van Bruce wrote: Too much talk about gameplay...
You are forgetting the experience the game provides and the feelings it can convey.
Talking about ketsui, for me it's the last true shmup setting made by CAVE: chars are real heroes, everything is plausible
You read only what you want, i play shmups mainly (and not only) for the feeling, the experiences they provide. Part of it is the story, another part is the music and of course, another part is the gameplay. What I was stating is that too many people focused only on the broken scoring system of Ketsuipachi when there are other factors that count on A GAME (not only shmups).Bee Cool wrote:So you enjoy these games but not for reasons related to playing them?O. Van Bruce wrote: Too much talk about gameplay...
You are forgetting the experience the game provides and the feelings it can convey.
Talking about ketsui, for me it's the last true shmup setting made by CAVE: chars are real heroes, everything is plausible
You want the story to be plausible (none of Cave's plots are by the way), and it needs to have real heroes (you haven't read the ending of ketsui). I think you should go for books and movies as a hobby instead of shmups.
They were soldiers, they know part of their job is the possibility of dying. What I liked about the chars of Ketsui is that they would die even if they destroyed EVAC industries.NzzpNzzp wrote:I don't think killing thousands of innocent people is really very heroic.O. Van Bruce wrote:Talking about ketsui, for me it's the last true shmup setting made by CAVE: chars are real heroes
Unless you have a serious problem with security guards.
People focus on the scoring system because that's pretty much all that matters if plan on getting serious with a game. It's hard to keep caring about setting and music when you're on your 100th run with a game.O. Van Bruce wrote: You read only what you want, i play shmups mainly (and not only) for the feeling, the experiences they provide. Part of it is the story, another part is the music and of course, another part is the gameplay. What I was stating is that too many people focused only on the broken scoring system of Ketsuipachi when there are other factors that count on A GAME (not only shmups).
Correct. The PAL release is nearly identical to the Japanese 1.5 release; the only difference is 1.51 is paid DLC rather than a first-run bonus, and Black Label is available at launch rather than being a month or two later down the line. Both regions have Black Label as a DLC mode. Japan also received Black Label as a standalone disc release, which is the only form Black Label Arrange (the so-called "Ketsupachi" mode) is available in.antron wrote:Is it correct that ketsuipachi is not available as DLC for the Japanese 1.5? But Black label is?
What about the PAL/USNTSC Resurrection? any DLC (or plans for some)?
thanks
I agree with you mostly, but HiVAC, Ketsuipachi's TLB has been no miss, no bomb, no hyper cleared.RNGmaster wrote:My problems with the TLB are the same as the ones I have with the TLB of many modern CAVE games - there are attacks that are literally undodgeable without bullet cancelling.
The development thread mentions that theoretical perfection should always be possible. With most modern CAVE TLBs, there are some attacks that you can't dodge no matter your skill level, and that's always struck me as a huge problem.
Any videos of that?Naut wrote:Ketsuipachi is very worth buying. I care nothing for regular Black Label but BL Arrange still manages to be my personal favourite flavour of DFK.
I agree with you mostly, but HiVAC, Ketsuipachi's TLB has been no miss, no bomb, no hyper cleared.RNGmaster wrote:My problems with the TLB are the same as the ones I have with the TLB of many modern CAVE games - there are attacks that are literally undodgeable without bullet cancelling.
The development thread mentions that theoretical perfection should always be possible. With most modern CAVE TLBs, there are some attacks that you can't dodge no matter your skill level, and that's always struck me as a huge problem.
RegalSin wrote:Rape is very shakey subject. It falls into the catergory of Womens right, Homosexaul rights, and Black rights.
someone care to post it in another site that is NOT nicovideo with the registering requirement??Naut wrote:Edit: Erppo found it. http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15670428
SuperPang wrote:Where DOJ rapes you, DFK grabs your boob then runs away.
That doesn't really make murdering them okay. I don't think most of the workers at EVAC industry would have been soldiers anyway.O. Van Bruce wrote:They were soldiers, they know part of their job is the possibility of dying.
i dont have a problem registering, since i have basic knowledge of japanese, but its not cool to register on a random site which you probably wont ever visit again, just to watch a single video.Age of Kings wrote:It's really not all that hard to register. I go on there to look at replays some of which are better than what is found on Youtube or superplay.co.uk.
SuperPang wrote:Where DOJ rapes you, DFK grabs your boob then runs away.
I have absolutely no ability to read written Japanese and I watch videos on Niconico Douga all the time. It's way, way bigger than "a random site".Kaspal wrote:i dont have a problem registering, since i have basic knowledge of japanese, but its not cool to register on a random site which you probably wont ever visit again, just to watch a single video.Age of Kings wrote:It's really not all that hard to register. I go on there to look at replays some of which are better than what is found on Youtube or superplay.co.uk.
Do you understand that STGs are probably the WORST games if you want to have a story? If you want the music so much "play" an OST, if you want story so much play a different genre. To say that you dislike a Futari because of its story makes me think you don't actually play these games.O. Van Bruce wrote:
You read only what you want, i play shmups mainly (and not only) for the feeling, the experiences they provide. Part of it is the story, another part is the music and of course, another part is the gameplay. What I was stating is that too many people focused only on the broken scoring system of Ketsuipachi when there are other factors that count on A GAME (not only shmups).
"Somebody care to waste hours of their time so I don't have to waste 30 seconds of mine??"Kaspal wrote:someone care to post it in another site that is NOT nicovideo with the registering requirement??
"Should i STFU and GTFO if i dont have something usefull to say to a honest request?"Naut wrote:"Somebody care to waste hours of their time so I don't have to waste 30 seconds of mine??"Kaspal wrote:someone care to post it in another site that is NOT nicovideo with the registering requirement??
Thanks, RNGmaster gave me that link b4, and i DID find it usefull and handy.iconoclast wrote:You can use this site to watch nico videos if you don't want to make an account: http://www.mmcafe.com/nico.html#http:// ... sm15670428
its not that nicodouga is a random site, is just that since i dont go there often (i've been to that site 3 times in my entire life!!), i dont find the necesity of registering there, specially when all i wanted to do today was watch a single video and am not planning on comming back there again in ages!. So no, i didnt say "random" in a derogatory way... i think you get the point now.StarCreator wrote:I have absolutely no ability to read written Japanese and I watch videos on Niconico Douga all the time. It's way, way bigger than "a random site".Kaspal wrote:i dont have a problem registering, since i have basic knowledge of japanese, but its not cool to register on a random site which you probably wont ever visit again, just to watch a single video.Age of Kings wrote:It's really not all that hard to register. I go on there to look at replays some of which are better than what is found on Youtube or superplay.co.uk.
SuperPang wrote:Where DOJ rapes you, DFK grabs your boob then runs away.
Seriously dude, in the time it took you to write these three shitposts you could have registered and watched the vid.Kaspal wrote:"Should i STFU and GTFO if i dont have something usefull to say to a honest request?"Naut wrote:"Somebody care to waste hours of their time so I don't have to waste 30 seconds of mine??"
Seriously dude, not everyone wants to create an account just to watch a video.
This is news to me. I honestly thought it was still all in Japanese that didn't machinetranslate very well. Thanks for the heads up.Elixir wrote:https://secure.nicovideo.jp/secure/regi ... ion=common
lol, what? Nicovideo's registration is in English now? What's the problem then? I thought he was honestly complaining since the registration has always been in Japanese.
I just think a site which happens to house a good 70% of an entire country's creative output is worth checking out rather than vehemently refusing to even take a look at it.Kaspal wrote:its not that nicodouga is a random site, is just that since i dont go there often (i've been to that site 3 times in my entire life!!), i dont find the necesity of registering there, specially when all i wanted to do today was watch a single video and am not planning on comming back there again in ages!. So no, i didnt say "random" in a derogatory way... i think you get the point now.
...isn't going to elicit positive responses. If you're so against registering (and again, you're just missing out at that point), you could have easily found one of the many ways to bypass registration on Google. Just sayin'.Kaspal wrote:someone care to post it in another site that is NOT nicovideo with the registering requirement??
by the time i wrote the last 2 "shitposts", i already had watched the video thanks to the link given by RNGMaster.Paradigm wrote:Seriously dude, in the time it took you to write these three shitposts you could have registered and watched the vid.Kaspal wrote:"Should i STFU and GTFO if i dont have something usefull to say to a honest request?"Naut wrote:"Somebody care to waste hours of their time so I don't have to waste 30 seconds of mine??"
Seriously dude, not everyone wants to create an account just to watch a video.
lets just say that im against registering on sites for a simple thing like watching videos. it's true that i might be missing out a lot of things, but again, it's not like i put nico douga as my principal resource for vids... actually, i kinda avoid watching superplays and stuff... not because i dont like them, but because its not my thing.StarCreator wrote: I just think a site which happens to house a good 70% of an entire country's creative output is worth checking out rather than vehemently refusing to even take a look at it.
Besides, the way you put your original request:
...isn't going to elicit positive responses. If you're so against registering (and again, you're just missing out at that point), you could have easily found one of the many ways to bypass registration on Google. Just sayin'.Kaspal wrote:someone care to post it in another site that is NOT nicovideo with the registering requirement??
like i said i have basic knowledge of japanese (i studied it for a year), so it was never about not being able to read the registering forms... it was about NOT creating an account just to watch a video, but still watching said video.Elixir wrote:https://secure.nicovideo.jp/secure/regi ... ion=common
lol, what? Nicovideo's registration is in English now? What's the problem then? I thought he was honestly complaining since the registration has always been in Japanese.
SuperPang wrote:Where DOJ rapes you, DFK grabs your boob then runs away.
What in the world could this mean? If it's "not your thing" then wouldn't that be the same as not liking it?Kaspal wrote:i kinda avoid watching superplays and stuff... not because i dont like them, but because its not my thing.
c'mon now! ... not being my thing != not liking/enjoying them!!Bee Cool wrote:What in the world could this mean? If it's "not your thing" then wouldn't that be the same as not liking it?Kaspal wrote:i kinda avoid watching superplays and stuff... not because i dont like them, but because its not my thing.
You are asking for a link that doesn't make you register, but by doing so you are making other people go out of their way to accommodate your inanity. You gave some of the worst excuses I have ever heard for not wanting to register which basically boils down to you being a lazy yet demanding shit-poster.
SuperPang wrote:Where DOJ rapes you, DFK grabs your boob then runs away.
I'll assume you are just trying to troll me, so i'll give a simple message:Bee Cool wrote:
Do you understand that STGs are probably the WORST games if you want to have a story? If you want the music so much "play" an OST, if you want story so much play a different genre. To say that you dislike a Futari because of its story makes me think you don't actually play these games.
Saying you do something for the "experience" isn't saying anything besides you play them to have fun. I hope everyone here plays games because they enjoy the experience, otherwise I wouldn't call that a leisurely activity. If you're not enjoying the "feeling" of playing a game, it's probably because it isn't fun for you. But regardless saying you play a game for fun isn't really a statement about the qualities of a game now is it?
