Too close for comfort? the revival?

mjclark · Post by **mjclark** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 2:35 pm

moozooh wrote: I will not go into lengths describing how idiotic your reaction is, so read carefully...
So please get that annoying kindergarten shit out, all three of you.

So am I still alright for that £20 then?

shmuppyLove · Post by **shmuppyLove** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 2:38 pm

Is anyone using the HLSL options with the newer games? I found Mushihimesama especially looked kind of ... bad ... without scanlines. Way too blocky.

ptoing · Post by **ptoing** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:14 pm

240x320 scaled up to fit a biggish monitor (possibly LCD) looks blocky? That's unheard of!

Seriously tho, I think the games looks pretty decent with or without scanlines.

IseeThings · Post by **IseeThings** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:34 pm

Changing the subject completely

u8 supports an Alpha Mission 2 (ASO2) Neogeo prototype dumped by Brian Hargrove.

I know this will get entirely overshadowed by the Cave work, but it's a pretty cool proto, and quite clearly a much earlier version of the game, no proper attract demo, different music, less levels, less options in service mode (where it's still called ASO2 regardless of region)

Nasirosuchus · Post by **Nasirosuchus** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:37 pm

Personally, I'd rather shmups not be in HD.

That also goes for beat 'em ups and platformers. I love that old school look, there's just nothing like it.

nahucirujano · Post by **nahucirujano** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:40 pm

Nasirosuchus wrote:Personally, I'd rather shmups not be in HD.

That also goes for beat 'em ups and platformers. I love that old school look, there's just nothing like it.

+1 my friend

Vamos · Post by **Vamos** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:41 pm

Nasirosuchus wrote:Personally, I'd rather shmups not be in HD.

That also goes for beat 'em ups and platformers. I love that old school look, there's just nothing like it.

+1

Actually i have a question for iseethings does the last no sound revision of mame64 support pink sweets ? for when the rom finally finds its way i know itl run better for me in no sound .

ptoing · Post by **ptoing** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:47 pm

Nasirosuchus wrote:Personally, I'd rather shmups not be in HD.

That also goes for beat 'em ups and platformers. I love that old school look, there's just nothing like it.

Being a pixel artist I have to agree with this to some extent.

I would not have anything against HD if that is the resolution the game was made at to begin with. I am not a huge fan of the HD stuff on the Cave ports. Apart from Akai Katana they are halfassed and AK has shit scaling :/

Alfman · Post by **Alfman** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:49 pm

Nasirosuchus wrote:Personally, I'd rather shmups not be in HD.

That also goes for beat 'em ups and platformers. I love that old school look, there's just nothing like it.

absolutely signed

mjclark · Post by **mjclark** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:51 pm

IseeThings wrote:Changing the subject completely

u8 supports an Alpha Mission 2 (ASO2) Neogeo prototype dumped by Brian Hargrove.

I know this will get entirely overshadowed by the Cave work, but it's a pretty cool proto, and quite clearly a much earlier version of the game, no proper attract demo, different music, less levels, less options in service mode (where it's still called ASO2 regardless of region)

So does u8 supercede the last build you posted here?
And can someone compile it quick????

And yeah- this does get a bit CAVEcentric when one of the beauties of MAME is access to obscurer shmups

shmuppyLove · Post by **shmuppyLove** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:24 pm

ptoing wrote:240x320 scaled up to fit a biggish monitor (possibly LCD) looks blocky? That's unheard of!

Seriously tho, I think the games looks pretty decent with or without scanlines.

Yeah I know, it sounds dumb, but I've been using MAME for years now on LCD monitors and it's never bothered me. I don't mind some crispy jaggy pixels, but for some reason this recent stuff looks noticeably bad without scanlines.

Anyhow, I've found a combo of settings that looks decent enough to me. Scanlines it is!

ptoing · Post by **ptoing** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:32 pm

I agree with you there that the older stuff, with proper pixelart, such as dodonpachi for example, looks better than the newer mainly prerendered art. Tho scanlines help a lot.

ebarrett · Post by **ebarrett** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:19 pm

Just dropping in to randomly shit on everyone's retroelitism and scanline fetishes.

IseeThings · Post by **IseeThings** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:22 pm

mjclark wrote:
IseeThings wrote:Changing the subject completely

u8 supports an Alpha Mission 2 (ASO2) Neogeo prototype dumped by Brian Hargrove.

I know this will get entirely overshadowed by the Cave work, but it's a pretty cool proto, and quite clearly a much earlier version of the game, no proper attract demo, different music, less levels, less options in service mode (where it's still called ASO2 regardless of region)
So does u8 supercede the last build you posted here?
And can someone compile it quick????

And yeah- this does get a bit CAVEcentric when one of the beauties of MAME is access to obscurer shmups

u8 is slightly newer than the last posted build, there are no real functional changes tho.

HLSL looks pretty sweet with the settings posted at
http://forums.bannister.org/ubbthreads. ... 832&page=6

Shin · Post by **Shin** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:31 pm

xMetalliCx wrote:1) its not fair to compare that projects,
but if you interested - Demul requires something like 1.7Ghz C2D for fullspeed cv1000 emulation (speedhacks is not used)
2) under MAME and at fullspeed ? I think no, even if someday MAME will have SH4 recompiler, Naomi's GPU is too complex for software emulation with good speed.

I'm looking forward to play that by the end of next year on Win8 tablets then (new atom CPUs) or are my hopes and dreams set too high ? I guess we'll see ^^

mjclark wrote:can someone compile it quick????

http://smitdogg.mameworld.info/temp/mame64-143u8.rar (64bit ver)
source:
http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/sh ... art=1&vc=1

mjclark · Post by **mjclark** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:36 pm

Shin wrote:
mjclark wrote:can someone compile it quick????
http://smitdogg.mameworld.info/temp/mame64-143u8.rar (64bit ver)
source:
http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/sh ... art=1&vc=1

Thankyou so much!

charlie chong · Post by **charlie chong** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:47 pm

ebarrett wrote:Just dropping in to randomly shit on everyone's retroelitism and scanline fetishes.

Nasirosuchus · Post by **Nasirosuchus** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:02 pm

charlie chong wrote:
ebarrett wrote:Just dropping in to randomly shit on everyone's retroelitism and scanline fetishes.

Is it just me, or did men's suits look way better back in the day?

kevenz · Post by **kevenz** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:15 pm

IseeThings wrote: HLSL looks pretty sweet with the settings posted at
http://forums.bannister.org/ubbthreads. ... 832&page=6

The first post is my config, I've done some modification since.... it now looks very colorfull and very neon-ish, I like it

Here's a screen of Futari Black Label on my Laptop, it's in 1080p but I cut the black bars on the screenshot:

Shin · Post by **Shin** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:22 pm

[quote="Nasirosuchus"][quote="charlie chong"][quote="ebarrett"]Just dropping in to randomly shit on everyone's retroelitism and scanline fetishes.[/quote]
[img]http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/ ... 2w8cx5.gif[/img][/quote]

Is it just me, or did men's suits look way better back in the day?[/quote]

they had fast Internet too...2Mb gifs, seriously...

Observer · Post by **Observer** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:22 pm

God, this thread keeps reaching new levels of awesomeness

Disreputable gentlemen fighting alongside betentacled martians and their spanish allies. Well, at least they are civilised, right?

"I'll not rest till I have me gold. Curse this well that me soul shall dwell, till I find me magic that breaks me spell."

shmuppyLove · Post by **shmuppyLove** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:45 pm

Nasirosuchus wrote:
charlie chong wrote: http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/ ... 2w8cx5.gif
Is it just me, or did men's suits look way better back in the day?

For reals yo

captpain · Post by **captpain** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:53 pm

kevenz wrote:
IseeThings wrote: HLSL looks pretty sweet with the settings posted at
http://forums.bannister.org/ubbthreads. ... 832&page=6
The first post is my config, I've done some modification since.... it now looks very colorfull and very neon-ish, I like it
Here's a screen of Futari Black Label on my Laptop, it's in 1080p but I cut the black bars on the screenshot:

that's hideous

just use directdraw without any enhancements at a resolution that scales well from the original

trap15 · Post by **trap15** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:58 pm

ebarrett wrote:Just dropping in to randomly shit on everyone's retroelitism and scanline fetishes.

Bananamatic · Post by **Bananamatic** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:59 pm

shmuppyLove wrote:For reals yo

anything goes when it comes to hoes - scanlines ain't easy

kevenz · Post by **kevenz** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:05 pm

captpain wrote: that's hideous
just use directdraw without any enhancements at a resolution that scales well from the original

I admit the picture quality looks better when you play..... on a printscreen screenshots it's quite blury.

Vamos · Post by **Vamos** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:11 pm

Just 1cced mushi futari 1.5 original didnt take to long so went back to futari 1.0 my god its so much harder.

1up · Post by **1up** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:20 pm

Havent tried any of these SH-3 games yet but Im a bit surprised when I read about how stressful the emulation is for the cpu? This could easily be the most demanding non-3D game in mame. But why is that? I read that apart from the Sound its pretty much optimized as much as possible. Gpu is not a factor In mame right, so its All down to the cpu. Looks like you need a dual core 3ghz to hope to get 100% emulation? Thats pretty wild considering cps3 ans killer instinct runs fine on a single core amd 2000+

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:27 pm

I'm sure Killer Instinct doesn't have two thousand shimmering objects moving around in every possible direction at a given time. :D

Vamos · Post by **Vamos** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:30 pm

And the sh3 clocks at 133mhz cps and midway board for KI are not even half of that.

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