Too close for comfort? the revival?

BeruBeru · Post by **BeruBeru** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:31 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K_YiB5TCtw
seems real, somewhat surprising.

captpain · Post by **captpain** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:38 pm

"emulated by demul 0.5.7"

BeruBeru · Post by **BeruBeru** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:41 pm

The upcoming version of an emulator that started as a dc/naomi emu but also with shitload of other stuff, seems like cave 3rd gen hardware is emulated as well now.

ratikal · Post by **ratikal** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:44 pm

dude wat

Can you post more information?

Danbo · Post by **Danbo** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:47 pm

BeruBeru wrote:The upcoming version of an emulator that started as a dc/naomi emu but also with shitload of other stuff, seems like cave 3rd gen hardware is emulated as well now.

no fucken way.

BeruBeru · Post by **BeruBeru** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:54 pm

The developer is Russian I think, and in Russia, game emulates you.
Anyway, all the piracy laws are not valid there, meaning they're free to do whatever they want.
Seems legit, also the channel has a bunch of other videos from other 3rd gen cave games.
Anyway, I think it will take a long time until it's released.

captpain · Post by **captpain** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:57 pm

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thx

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:03 pm

It seems if you work for free the job gets done faster.

drunkninja24 · Post by **drunkninja24** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:05 pm

captpain wrote:I

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RA

thx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IyxC1VGF_s

Observer · Post by **Observer** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:08 pm

drunkninja24 wrote:
captpain wrote:I

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thx
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IyxC1VGF_s

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF------ HOLY...

TORRENT PLZ.

Sorry, someone had to.

edit2: Just kidding, before anyone takes it seriously.

edit: still, I mean, holy shit so much happened in the last three months! We went from "Let's sit tight and wait for Ketsui 2015/2016+" to having it emulated along with DOJ and Espgaluda via Mame. Now this. And don't forget Arcana Heart 3 on PC. Damn.

Danbo · Post by **Danbo** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:14 pm

im guessing sound emulation isn't working (why dub over it w/ that fucking youtube "With A Spirit" tune otherwise) and its kinda slow. but goddamn thats already better than pcsx2 or whatever

Observer wrote:And don't forget Arcana Heart 3 on PC.

sorry, i did already

MEDIEVAL_MIKU · Post by **MEDIEVAL_MIKU** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:15 am

There's a link to one of the videos at the bottom of this thread from the Russian demul forum so all this is probably real. http://forum.emu-russia.net/viewtopic.p ... 3&start=80

drunkninja24 · Post by **drunkninja24** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:17 am

Observer wrote:
drunkninja24 wrote:
captpain wrote:I

BA

RA

thx
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IyxC1VGF_s
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF------ HOLY...

TORRENT PLZ.

Sorry, someone had to.

edit2: Just kidding, before anyone takes it seriously.

edit: still, I mean, holy shit so much happened in the last three months! We went from "Let's sit tight and wait for Ketsui 2015/2016+" to having it emulated along with DOJ and Espgaluda via Mame. Now this. And don't forget Arcana Heart 3 on PC. Damn.

Haha yeah. Next announcement will be for working Raiden II and DoDonPachi II. I wish.

Teufel_in_Blau · Post by **Teufel_in_Blau** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:29 am

Deathsmiles:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxTFMmacGyY

Mushihimesama:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1JXrifkw5E

Is this shit real?

I's very hard to believe for me.

Did anyone could successful emulate some of these?

z0mbie90 · Post by **z0mbie90** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:38 am

Teufel_in_Blau wrote: Is this shit real?

I's very hard to believe for me.

Did anyone could successful emulate some of these?

I think I've seen some images on Ibara and Espgaluda 2 on LucaElia WIP page
http://www.lucaelia.com/

IseeThings · Post by **IseeThings** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:38 am

It's legit, it shouldn't really be any great surprise.

The hardware is a 'simple' (compared to 3D hardware) blitter being driven by an SH3, which is 100% compatible with the SH4 used by the Dreamcast.

Makes perfect sense that they emulated it, they already have the hard part done for the Dreamcast, the CPU core. It's not a difficult platform to emulate at all.

The sound ROMs aren't dumped on several games, and the sound chip is pretty complex (and not emulated) which is why there is no sound.

I mentioned before that your best chance of seeing these was in an emulator outside of MAME, most likely one of the DC / Naomi ones. The videos have been there a while too, the first ones were put up over a month ago.

Note, this has nothing to do with MAME, or Mamedev, but the guys who have done it have worked with us on Naomi stuff in the past, and I can confirm it's 100% genuine.

Teufel_in_Blau · Post by **Teufel_in_Blau** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:45 am

OK, I officially jizzed in my pants.

But damn, poor CAVE... shit sux.

TVG · Post by **TVG** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:16 am

Well, fuck.

Despatche · Post by **Despatche** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:30 am

drunkninja24 wrote:Haha yeah. Next announcement will be for working Raiden II. I wish.

Last I heard, that hardware was progressing fairly well.

austere · Post by **austere** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:21 am

Took you guys a while to find this, huh? ;) I see that someone handed over the ESPGaluda II ROMs to CaH4e3...

IseeThings wrote:the sound chip is pretty complex (and not emulated) which is why there is no sound.

Yeah this part could be challenging in theory, especially if they're using a non-standard codebook for their encoding. Could get lucky though, given Yamaha's patent licensing in the relevant field...

Teufel_in_Blau wrote:But damn, poor CAVE... shit sux.

Well, as long as the code is closed for comfort, which games get emulated can be controlled. It's probably a bit too early for Deathsmiles, but whatever.

Teufel_in_Blau · Post by **Teufel_in_Blau** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:14 am

austere wrote:It's probably a bit too early Deathsmiles, but whatever.

That's what I'm talking about. I for one welcome our new emulated overlords Mushihimesama and Ibara. Since the PS2 ports are already sold out and wasn't really good in terms of arcade accuracy. But for Espgaluda 2 and Deathsmiles it's just too early, especially if you consider the fact that you can get still both games for the 360.

Demetori · Post by **Demetori** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:57 am

... the end of the Japanese shmup is at hand? Arcade anyway.

Ahh, this is just creepy.. even if we don't see a release for a year. Daifukkatsu is on there as well...

emphatic · Post by **emphatic** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:06 am

Oh, wait, will this mean that someone could make a working driver for the Dreamcast to run these games?

Despatche · Post by **Despatche** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:09 am

Teufel_in_Blau wrote:Espgaluda 2 is just too early

For the record, anyone who wanted Espgaluda II probably already has it.

Jockel · Post by **Jockel** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:12 am

emphatic wrote:Oh, wait, will this mean that someone could make a working driver for the Dreamcast to run these games?

That would be awefull. Full of awe. DC2JAMMA with this and I can die happy.

Demetori · Post by **Demetori** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:17 am

emphatic wrote:Oh, wait, will this mean that someone could make a working driver for the Dreamcast to run these games?

With no sound, probably.

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:44 am

The slowdown in that Mushihimesama video (which occurs once every half a second) is nauseating.

mjclark · Post by **mjclark** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:51 am

Demetori wrote:
emphatic wrote:Oh, wait, will this mean that someone could make a working driver for the Dreamcast to run these games?
With no sound, probably.

MAME Ketsui et al went from not working at all to having sound problems to running backwards to running almost perfectly in less than a month.
Remember, if Star Trek can happen then anything is possible

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:09 am

The piranhas are at the ready!

Ex-Cyber · Post by **Ex-Cyber** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:15 am

emphatic wrote:Oh, wait, will this mean that someone could make a working driver for the Dreamcast to run these games?

Can't rule it out (if "driver" is construed to include a virtualization monitor with the blitter interface emulated), but I wouldn't count on it being easy. I'd expect that the Cave code is big-endian, as is typical for SuperH systems (can anyone with inside info confirm/deny this?); Dreamcast is hardwired to little endian mode. I dreamed up a crazy solution to that problem (big-endian SuperH guest virtualized on little-endian SH-4 host) years ago, but I never tried it because for that project it probably would have amounted to tilting at windmills.

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