Dodonpachi coming to 360 (by way of Instant Brain)

[RNGmaster]

On the good side: if they're releasing the game again at this point in time, Campaign Edition will likely be included!

LOL no. Cave doesn't have the code for that anymore. They could ask ZBL-NAI, but I'm not sure he's willing to part with it.

[kid aphex]

Cave are weird, it's why I like them

[Chaoshead]

It's interesting to consider that almost no one in Japan has enough floor space for the Kinect to function correctly, and I don't think the Nyko Zoom accessory is being released there.

Can we expect all future shmup ports to have tacked-on Kinect support? There's talk that MS might require all 360 games to feature it to some degree--I mean, goddamn Mass Effect 3 will use it.

Nyko Zoom have jp version
http://www.amazon.co.jp/ZOOM-Xbox-360-% ... 0050SYS5A/

and not really,unless MSKK employee drink with shmups developer again lol
if you know Japanese,there is reason
http://gehanew.com/archives/1630888.html
so don't making some "rumor""talk" again XD

[stryc9]

No, having a playable version of DDP is not the point. I don't think this is such a travesty in itself, it's just representative of how far Cave has fallen and how grim the future of non-smartphone shmup development looks. A bad omen, if you will.

Well they just gave us a bunch of ports that we'd thought we might never see and ported much of their back catalogue to console so it's hard to be mad at them.
Even so I'm still thinking what the fuck - although to be fair Sega did it with their old super scaler games on Shenmue already.

it boils down to this - if Dodonpachi can be unlocked and playable from the Title menu and includes joystick support, then I'm possibly looking at my first, and quite possibly last visual novel purchase ever. If not, and I'm not betting on it, then of course no sale.

Interesting strategy, if that's even what this is

[stryc9]

OK, just read it won't have tate support.

Goodbye, Instant Brain I will spend my money on some real instant brain instead.

[Chaoshead]

OK, just read it won't have tate support.

Goodbye, Instant Brain I will spend my money on some real instant brain instead.

well you can play Dodonpachi with controller,so i think joystick is okay too

[Shelcoof]

Needs more info on the DDP port!

[Chaoshead]

Needs more info on the DDP port!

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201110/16052023.html
not much,they only said you can play with controller or Kinect
i guess it will like PSN version maybe?

[sven666]

...people are getting upset about freebees in other games now?

i must be getting old because when i was a kid this kind of bonus would be a thing of celebration, i still have fond memories of continuous looping of tiny phalanx for instance.. i would be chuffed if i had bought a (imo) p.o.s like instant brain and found it had a gem like DDP thrown in at the end?

[Elixir]

If you're interested in checking out where the shmup news hits the English speaking world first, follow @shmups.

Moreover, this isn't "Kinect Dodonpachi". Kinect support is optional. Perhaps a mod can change this thread's title, yeah?

To respond though, I'll probably buy it once it's in Amazon.jp's discount section. Pretty sure it will happen, just like so many other Cave releases.

[Nick420]

I've been hoping like crazy for a 360 release of ddp. I'm guessing this won't have any screen options though will it?

[NTSC-J]

...people are getting upset about freebees in other games now?

i must be getting old because when i was a kid this kind of bonus would be a thing of celebration, i still have fond memories of continuous looping of tiny phalanx for instance.. i would be chuffed if i had bought a (imo) p.o.s like instant brain and found it had a gem like DDP thrown in at the end?

Right? I swear, with fans like these...

[Ghegs]

What an incomprehensible decision, from a marketing standpoint. Include a twitch shooting game with a visual novel, of all things? Sure, some fans of visual novels might also like shmups, but I doubt there is much overlap between the fanbases.

It's very peculiar indeed, but there's sort of a precedent for it. In the PC Engine port of Konami's dating sim Tokimeki Memorial there were two hidden shmups to unlock. Of course those were fairly simple (and exclusive to the port) games and not a port of a very well-known arcade title, but still. Konami put those in as fanservice and I imagine that's the same reason Cave has.

[MX7]

I really don't see what's so weird about this. They're not going to release it as a download, as Guwange tanked (in Cave's eyes), and they'd have to add arrange modes and whatnot. Ditto for if it was a standalone disc release. And even if it is OMG DoDonpachi, a sixteen year old isn't going to sell much by itself. Far better to shove it in as bonus content on a visual novel.

[TrevHead (TVR)]

Not that ild buy it due to region locking but ideally Cave should include TATE plus an alternate way of unlocking the content. IE player who dont want the hassle of playing a VN can just leave the 360 unattended for 2-6 hours to unlock it, any controller input cancels the timer so that those playing the VN dont unlock DDP early by accident

I really don't see what's so weird about this. They're not going to release it as a download, as Guwange tanked (in Cave's eyes), and they'd have to add arrange modes and whatnot. Ditto for if it was a standalone disc release. And even if it is OMG DoDonpachi, a sixteen year old isn't going to sell much by itself. Far better to shove it in as bonus content on a visual novel.

I agree, XBLA costs too much money for DDP. Wasnt the reason Dangun Feveron got cancelled was due to the low return from Guwange? Imo best just to accept the fact and be thankful DDP is coming to the 360 by some other means and go and let CAVE know you are interested in it so they might make DDP to standard acceptable to shmuppers

[Zaarock]

So uh, is it going to be better than playing it on MAME? must be totally worth paying for the whole VN.

Would be pretty amusing if it's just a rom and an emulator like some compilations.

[Paradigm]

...people are getting upset about freebees in other games now?

i must be getting old because when i was a kid this kind of bonus would be a thing of celebration, i still have fond memories of continuous looping of tiny phalanx for instance.. i would be chuffed if i had bought a (imo) p.o.s like instant brain and found it had a gem like DDP thrown in at the end?

Exactly

I can't believe the amount of whining in this thread. People are acting as though CAVE just announced that all their future shooters will be Kinect-only or something. It's a nice little freebie for people who buy Instant Brain - nothing more, nothing less.

[Drachenherz]

shmups-forum:

Instant Drama.

[Elixir]

...people are getting upset about freebees in other games now?

i must be getting old because when i was a kid this kind of bonus would be a thing of celebration, i still have fond memories of continuous looping of tiny phalanx for instance.. i would be chuffed if i had bought a (imo) p.o.s like instant brain and found it had a gem like DDP thrown in at the end?

Exactly

I can't believe the amount of whining in this thread. People are acting as though CAVE just announced that all their future shooters will be Kinect-only or something. It's a nice little freebie for people who buy Instant Brain - nothing more, nothing less.

It's (mainly) thanks to the thread being titled "Kinect Dodonpachi". Thanks, Ghegs.

It turns out this version will have both loops.

Leaderboards unconfirmed as of yet, no information.

[Zeron]

Don't see why It can't have TATE since it's not like they have to develop a new GUI or whatever.

[spl]

lol guys.. it's just a ploy by Cave so you guys can buy more of this Instant Brain rubbish.. just play DDP on MAME and be happy - leaderboards.. who cares about that 95% of this forum hate DDP's "anal chaining scoring - omg must be at the right place at the right frame or all over - like any other titles are any better"

[Cers]

How would you react if this would include DDP Campaign (and not DDP)

[gray117]

... well you're it's got Instant Brain attention, even if tangentially, so I suppose job done?

I'm not sure if the consumer interest cross-over exists [or can be made to exist], but maybe it does....

Anyways thanks ddp, now shake it and sell some other stuff.

Not for me. Even if it had campaign. If instant brain sells it means another instant brain, not another ddp.

[spl]

How would you react if this would include DDP Campaign (and not DDP)

I would feel sorely ripped off like the other people in this thread.. but I don't think that will happen.. then again.. even monkeys fall from trees

[guigui]

Sorry if I'm late, but, damned, is all this really TRUE ?

I mean, will Cave will actually make a visual novel in which is included Dodonpachi ? The shooting game ?

I need one of you to confirm this fact so that I can believe it for the rest of my life...

[Kollision]

these are dark days for the shmup genre
it's obvious that Cave is dying
cherish what's already out there and expect an almost complete shmup void for the next years, guys

RIP shmups

[ZenErik]

Definitely pre-ordering this! I'll press the A button over and over for a few hours to make it through a visual novel and unlock DDP. Whatever. And I am actually intrigued by DDP with Kinect support because playing ESPgaluda on an iPod is hours and hours of fun when I am on the train/bus. Can't wait.

[Erppo]

Ummm, so: there's this ancient game (that everyone has been able to play perfectly with an emulator for god knows how long), and then there's Cave thinking it would be funny to add it as a free extra in their VN. Suddenly everyone is pissed off as fuck.

Sometimes I really fail to understand this forum.

[Kewne]

Can we expect all future shmup ports to have tacked-on Kinect support? There's talk that MS might require all 360 games to feature it to some degree--I mean, goddamn Mass Effect 3 will use it.

My guess is that it's this, they asked themselves "how do we get properly working Kinect support in a VN" and they decided to add the weirdest thing possible in an act of defiance/boredom/freedom of artistic expression. Then again I'm just speculating because this is downright silly.

I wouldn't be surprised if the standards differed by publisher/developer. It's well known that MS wants to push casual games towards Kinect and whether you like it or not, CAVE is basically a casual game developer when it comes to volume worldwide; they have the same pattern of (relatively) many games with (relatively) few copies sold.

[beatsgo]

I'll throw my 2 cents in here: CAVE should next time keep this a secret. Simple and effective marketing tool. Sort of like the way Castlevania SOTN was released with the secret ending and upside down castle.