Shmup stinkers

[Estebang]

To be honest, most PCE shmups are not worth one's time, at least on default difficulty settings.

[stryc9]

It IS.

OK, it is then.

I had a Megadrive as well as a SNES so I was playing real shooters anyway

[Skykid]

The post about MUSHA being a shump stinker is likely a troll post, but anyway...

Don't worry, I got that.

And Axelay is far from being the best shmup on the system. It's only an average game regardless of its genre. R-Type III and Macross are both superior Snes efforts, and even Pop n' Twinbee too.

Oh, and Gradius III if you enjoy the feeling of being repeatedly raped.

[Paradigm]

Oh, and Gradius III if you enjoy the feeling of being repeatedly raped.

You must be thinking of the arcade version cos the SNES version is easy to loop.

[Kollision]

I can agree on any of the others as contenders for best shooter on the SNES, but Pop n twin bee? boooooring........

[Skykid]

I can agree on any of the others as contenders for best shooter on the SNES, but Pop n twin bee? boooooring........

A little, but not as dull as Axelay. Neither qualify as stinkers though, if that helps any.

Oh, and Gradius III if you enjoy the feeling of being repeatedly raped.

You must be thinking of the arcade version cos the SNES version is easy to loop.

I still get raped by it.

[Edmond Dantes]

I have never beaten any Gradius game. I'm still looking for a wise Tibetan monk to teach me the ways of mastering Gradius.

I can't 1cc Thunder Force III either (though I can at least beat it), which I've heard makes me an unskilled player who might as well quit shmupping.

... I never believed in quitting though!

[MathU]

R-Type III is the best SNES shooter.

Just stopped back in this stupid thread to agree with this scholar.

[Moniker]

I have never beaten any Gradius game. I'm still looking for a wise Tibetan monk to teach me the ways of mastering Gradius.

Check out the 1-sissy for Gradius Rebirth. Won't make you a Jedi, but I found it pretty helpful.

[Estebang]

Cotton 100% is too easy and repetitive. The "Tea Time" transitional minigame is neat, but its random element completely kills scoring, and would be more at home in a Warioware.

[Sumez]

If I had to criticize MUSHA for something it would have to be all those popcorn enemies constantly trying to snipe my ass.

[Herr Schatten]

Oh, and Gradius III if you enjoy the feeling of being repeatedly raped.

You must be thinking of the arcade version cos the SNES version is easy to loop.

I still get raped by it.

That's probably more due to the dodgy hit detection than the actual difficulty of the port.

[Illyrian]

Radiant Silvergun.

[dunpeal2064]

Lol, pop'n twinbee better than axelay? I think axelay is excellent. Not the most challenging game ever, but great presentation, music, and weapons.

[Skykid]

Lol, pop'n twinbee better than axelay? I think axelay is excellent. Not the most challenging game ever, but great presentation, music, and weapons.

Don't put words in my mouth (that's happening a lot recently), I only said "not as dull."

Pop n' is pretty fruity but a bit long winded, Axelay is impressive for about a minute until you realise the 3D stages have a sucky depth perpective and the weapons are wank.

The hori sections are really nice though.

Radiant Silvergun.

Not on your life.

[Kollision]

Don't spoil this thread, keep your RSG claims to the other thread Illyrian!

[dunpeal2064]

I'll agree that the vert levels have a funky perspective. I liked the weapons though.

I dunno, not the best on the system, but not stinker material in my book.


I just misread that, since the other 2 games you posted were great, I thought maybe you were putting twinbee on their level.

RSG a stinker though? Thats just silly.

[Skykid]

RSG a stinker though? Thats just silly.

People love to rag on RSG because it's held in high regard, is ridiculously tough and doesn't conform to the same conventions that a bazillion other shmups do. There's no point in ragging on a game for attempting to do something fresh (and that also happens to be mindbogglingly spectacular.)

If you want a plain old STG there's hardly a shortage, leave Silvergun alone.

[toaplan_shmupfan]

Adding Eco Fighters (Capcom). Default controls (two rotate buttons) are horrible. Using an analog stick (PS2) for 360 degree firing control makes things slightly better. This is supposed to be able to be done in one credit? But all the weapons are too slow and too weak!

[Edmond Dantes]

Did Capcom ever make a good shmup, besides the NES version of 1943?

[Sumez]

Did Capcom ever make a good shmup, besides the NES version of 1943?

[Skykid]

Adding Eco Fighters (Capcom). Default controls (two rotate buttons) are horrible. Using an analog stick (PS2) for 360 degree firing control makes things slightly better. This is supposed to be able to be done in one credit? But all the weapons are too slow and too weak!

It's quite an unusual one, but I'm not sure it qualifies as a stinker. We're talking games that are wretchedly boring and dull or outright broken.

[ChainsawGuitarSP]

Eco Fighters is great. I hope opening a score board for it will motivate more people to play it sometime.

[Kollision]

Eco Fighters is great. I hope opening a score board for it will motivate more people to play it sometime.

Count me in for some Eco Fighters action, pal.

[ChainsawGuitarSP]

Edward, did I ever mention you're my favorite STG player? cause you are bro. You're my favorite STG player.

[Kollision]

haha I'm a sucker for obscure shmups
I do remember I kinda liked what I saw from Eco Fighters a looong while ago

[Obiwanshinobi]

Did Capcom ever make a good shmup, besides the NES version of 1943?

Vulgus.

[Mero]

Did Capcom ever make a good shmup, besides the NES version of 1943?

Vulgus.

Exed Exes.

Incidentally, I cannot beat the 2nd level of Eco Fighters . Not neccessarily a bad game though

[WarpZone]

Axelay is impressive for about a minute until you realise the 3D stages have a sucky depth perpective and the weapons are wank.

The hori sections are really nice though.

Yeah, if only all the stages had been horizontal! The round vulcan is a really cool weapon (is there another shooter with anything like it?) but the weapon choices are unbalanced.

As is, I still think it might be my favorite on SNES. R-Type III often has better design but a truly terrible stage 4 that I find hard to forgive.

[BIL]

Did Capcom ever make a good shmup, besides the NES version of 1943?

The unremittingly intense Gun "baww! I keep getting shot in the back!" Smoke. Not the NES version.