Xbox 360: Mushihimesama Futari 1.5 (November 2009)

[Sapz]

You collect a gem as it's green by collecting the gem within a certain time of it spawning - I don't have any exact numbers but I'd say something like 40-60 frames. How close you were to the enemy isn't the important thing here, but of course it'll help since you're so close to the gems to start with and can collect them quickly.

That's how I thought it was as well, but skimming the ST thread on this forum says something about more green gems spawning when you point blank the enemies as well as the obvious advantage in staying close to the enemy when it dies. So which is the truth?

As far as I know, that kind of thing only happens in Black Label Original, where you'll want to be pointblanking enemies the entire time. I could be wrong, but I haven't seen any evidence to the contrary while playing.

[Annoyboy]

I don't see any reason NOT to play for score in Original when going for 1CC - isn't it just switching shots every 500 points and staying close to the enemies you shoot? :P

If you're playing for survival, going for your very first 1CC of Original mode (and I assume he's playing Black Label), you should be able to squeeze out the second extend before you reach Larsa even if you don't know anything about how to score. I frequently did before I even knew why the counter changed colour. Taking that into consideration, if you're trying to get a high score throughout the run, the rank will skyrocket and stage 5 will end up much more difficult than it would have been otherwise (much faster bullets). If all you want to do is beat the game on 1 credit, why make it harder for yourself by pushing the score beyond the second extend? This is why I'd advise less skilled players not to worry too much about scoring. It's frustrating to get to the last stage with an amazing score and then lose the entire credit before you're even halfway through it.

DrTrouserPlank, if Larsa is giving you that much trouble, why not use Training to practise that boss and work out a strategy? If you just bomb the fuck out of her you shouldn't need more than 3 lives, and with a little training I'm sure you could figure out which parts of her patterns you can cope with and work out a way to stretch your time spent chipping away her health between bombs.

[dunpeal2064]

He's playing 1.5

Honestly, I wouldn't even try...

[DrTrouserPlank]

I don't see any reason NOT to play for score in Original when going for 1CC - isn't it just switching shots every 500 points and staying close to the enemies you shoot?

DrTrouserPlank, if Larsa is giving you that much trouble, why not use Training to practise that boss and work out a strategy? If you just bomb the fuck out of her you shouldn't need more than 3 lives, and with a little training I'm sure you could figure out which parts of her patterns you can cope with and work out a way to stretch your time spent chipping away her health between bombs.

I've spent hours trying to find a way to beat it in training and there's no way to do it consistently and on few enough lives. The whole thing has gotten well past the point where any more practice is going to make a real difference.

I think it's without doubt the most unfair game I've ever played, and to spend more time on it would be an utter waste.

I've taken it as far as it can be taken. I'm done.

[Gus]

You won't be missed.

[dunpeal2064]

I really wouldn't get that j360 if I were you

Probably make some of your money back selling those amazing games in the trading station

[Zeether]

I've spent hours trying to find a way to beat it in training and there's no way to do it consistently and on few enough lives. The whole thing has gotten well past the point where any more practice is going to make a real difference.

I think it's without doubt the most unfair game I've ever played, and to spend more time on it would be an utter waste.

I've taken it as far as it can be taken. I'm done.

[StarCreator]

I really wouldn't get that j360 if I were you

Too late, it arrived yesterday per his thread in Hardware.

[dunpeal2064]

I really wouldn't get that j360 if I were you

Too late, it arrived yesterday per his thread in Hardware.

Damn, and he has DOJ? Theres no way he could enjoy that.

[xbl0x180]

He can still play non-shoot-'em-ups that are region-locked. There's, um... Gal*Gun aaaaaand Dream Club Zero

[Gus]

DOJ is too hard for even me and I play 1.5 Ultra lol.

[Icarus]

Maybe he wants to play Catherine in Japanese?
Wait, that game will rip him to shreds.

[dunpeal2064]

Id@lmaster

[Bananamatic]

Id@lmaster

I dropped that after one episode. Takane was pretty damn hot though.

also DOJ ain't that hard

[Chaos Phoenixma]

I can't take pics of it or anything, but I'll do some runs of this tomorrow most likely. Haven't played this particular shmup in a month. See how I do over some attempts.

[third_strike]

I've spent hours trying to find a way to beat it in training and there's no way to do it consistently and on few enough lives. The whole thing has gotten well past the point where any more practice is going to make a real difference.

I think it's without doubt the most unfair game I've ever played, and to spend more time on it would be an utter waste.

I've taken it as far as it can be taken. I'm done.

Stop now is the best choice. Guess which an achievement is impossible..., I was in this position for several times. Play something else enjoy your j360 and in two months you will all this game in 3rd try.
At least you are trying get all, better than play to listen musics and appreciate backgrounds like any people here

[Annoyboy]

I've been playing 1.5 Original today... badly. The difficulty really seems to spike on stage 4, everything just gets super-fast and I lose the feeling that I'm in control of where things are shooting/moving. Black Label is far easier. I'm at a point where I've 1CCd Black Label Original twice with each character, but I'm not sure what I should be doing next. Is 1.5 Original the next logical step up in terms of difficulty, or should I try Black Label Maniac? Or maybe I should just keep practising by playing Black Label Original for score? Any insight on this?

[RNGmaster]

Hey, DrTrouserPlank, can you give me your copy of Futari for free?

[Sapz]

I've been playing 1.5 Original today... badly. The difficulty really seems to spike on stage 4, everything just gets super-fast and I lose the feeling that I'm in control of where things are shooting/moving. Black Label is far easier. I'm at a point where I've 1CCd Black Label Original twice with each character, but I'm not sure what I should be doing next. Is 1.5 Original the next logical step up in terms of difficulty, or should I try Black Label Maniac? Or maybe I should just keep practising by playing Black Label Original for score? Any insight on this?

1.5 Original is definitely the next step, although BL Maniac is also harder in a different way and should be considered as an alternative. I'd recommend practicing 1.5 Original Stage 4 starting at 30k on the counter or so to get a feel for it and learning how to make the enemies manageable without getting overwhelmed. BL Maniac has harder patterns but less speed and managing the flow of enemies is quite easy due to BL's firepower, so it's something of a different skillset to what 1.5 Original requires.

[drunkninja24]

They key for me on Stages 4 & 5 of 1.5 Original is lot's of tap-dodging from one side of the screen to the other. Several bullets in those stages are aimed at you and are actually pretty simple to manipulate. Also, for stage 4, being able to identify the structures and enemies that cancel all on-screen bullets is a massive help to preventing yourself from being overwhelmed.

[Gus]

BL Maniac is definitely worth looking into as an alternative. Less frustrating patterns with no rank and scoring that's more accessible. I think it also prepares for stuff like 1.5 Maniac and BL God a lot better than 1.5 Original.

[DrTrouserPlank]

I really wouldn't get that j360 if I were you

Too late, it arrived yesterday per his thread in Hardware.

Damn, and he has DOJ? Theres no way he could enjoy that.

Yup too late.

Enjoying it too much to think about this game anymore; although now that I'm not playing Futari I have finally got something to rest my coffee cup on.

[Illyrian]

They key for me on Stages 4 & 5 of 1.5 Original is lot's of tap-dodging from one side of the screen to the other. Several bullets in those stages are aimed at you and are actually pretty simple to manipulate. Also, for stage 4, being able to identify the structures and enemies that cancel all on-screen bullets is a massive help to preventing yourself from being overwhelmed.

You need to make the "Futari Infinity Symbol" basically you just do a slow infinity symbol around the screen when you're dealing with the direct firing enemies en masse.

And I'd recommend Maniac difficulty after Original, as 1.5 Original is waaay inferior to BL Original in my opinion. To clarify an earlier question you do get more gems from point blanking in BL original, and you get a constant stream of them for point blanking towers/other bits of destructable scenery with the right shot type.

TrouserPlank is gone huh? A nation mourns. Give it a month and he'll be bitching about DOJ stage 3 and how TERRIBLY UNFAIR chaining is.

[DrTrouserPlank]

They key for me on Stages 4 & 5 of 1.5 Original is lot's of tap-dodging from one side of the screen to the other. Several bullets in those stages are aimed at you and are actually pretty simple to manipulate. Also, for stage 4, being able to identify the structures and enemies that cancel all on-screen bullets is a massive help to preventing yourself from being overwhelmed.

You need to make the "Futari Infinity Symbol" basically you just do a slow infinity symbol around the screen when you're dealing with the direct firing enemies en masse.

And I'd recommend Maniac difficulty after Original, as 1.5 Original is waaay inferior to BL Original in my opinion. To clarify an earlier question you do get more gems from point blanking in BL original, and you get a constant stream of them for point blanking towers/other bits of destructable scenery with the right shot type.

TrouserPlank is gone huh? A nation mourns. Give it a month and he'll be bitching about DOJ stage 3 and how TERRIBLY UNFAIR chaining is.

I don't remember saying that I was gone.

[StarCreator]

I don't remember saying that I was gone.

Given you ignore every last bit of advice people give you and no one wants to hear you endlessly whining about games being unfair, I honestly don't see why you'd stay.

[Icarus]

TrouserPlank is gone huh? A nation mourns. Give it a month and he'll be bitching about DOJ stage 3 and how TERRIBLY UNFAIR chaining is.

I'd give it a week.

[DrTrouserPlank]

I don't remember saying that I was gone.

Given you ignore every last bit of advice people give you and no one wants to hear you endlessly whining about games being unfair, I honestly don't see why you'd stay.

I enjoy the convivial atmosphere.

[dunpeal2064]

I guesd I'd be a little upset if I dropped a bunch of money on a console to play games that I don't have the comprehension to play. Explains the borderline trolling.

Funny that its a fairly easy game if 1cc is your only goal.

[DrTrouserPlank]

I guesd I'd be a little upset if I dropped a bunch of money on a console to play games that I don't have the comprehension to play. Explains the borderline trolling.

Funny that its a fairly easy game if 1cc is your only goal.

I don't know why you'd think I'm upset about my new console or any of the games I've bought? Not too sure how you got that idea.

I'm sorry you think you are being trolled but have you given any thought to why you believe that is so? Maybe what I say strikes a nerve because you know there's some truth to it, regardless of how much you'd like to deny it.

I'm not too sure that this is the thread in which I should be offering therapy however. If you like I'd be willing to discuss the matter further in a new thread set up for that purpose.

[dunpeal2064]

OMG... You're right doctor. I'm not skilled, I'm lucky. I have the max capability possible, and anyone better than me is just more lucky. Mind = blown.

Icarus, Sapz, time to hit the casino