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roushimsx wrote:
TWITCHDOCTOR wrote:Hey Roushy...did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed today or something?
Sorry, my sarcasm must have gotten lost someplace between my modem and your modem. :(
No need to apologize. I know you weren't refering to me.
It just seemed as though you were "ranting and raving" in the truest form of the term.

Yea, a lot of guys around here collect those cute little plushie thing-a-ma-jiglets.
Personally, I think its a little strange...but then who am I to judge?
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TWITCHDOCTOR wrote:It just seemed as though you were "ranting and raving" in the truest form of the term.
I was just trying to match the idiocy of the opening post :)

p.s. I collect stuffed animals
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OMG!!!111

NOT YOU TOO!?
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lol

edit - this is fun, I'm adding more shmup related ones!

Puss n Boots
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Fancy (on the left) and Zip (on the right)
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I don't collect stuffed animals, but I do have a singing Scooby Doo. He sings Christmas songs! "Ringle Rells, Ringle Rells, Ringle Rall rah reh"
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The only stuffed toy's I thought of getting were the two doctors from the muppets but then I soon lost the incentive ro go through and purchase them.


My mother collects the old fashion teddies
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here are nice collection pics.

http://videogamecollectors.com/gallery/ ... Collection

whatever you do don't click this link elixir!
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Adol's collections are awesome. Too bad those silly French always seem to just collect Japanese games and not US games for whatever reason (lol @ US is inferior because it lacks moonspeak).

He posted a series of his collection on digitalpress and I fapped furiously at the sheer beauty of it all. There's no way in hell I'll ever have a collection that awesome
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Since sarcasm generally doesn't work over the internet, most of the failed sarcasm comments do come into play. I'm just not going to bother replying to them.

But yes, owning a game and not playing it(this covers not downloading, tracking down another copy, or finding alternative means of playing) is pointless.
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Elixir wrote:But yes, owning a game and not playing it(this covers not downloading, tracking down another copy, or finding alternative means of playing) is pointless.
Pointless to some but alot of people do enjoy collecting.

I would never collect games etc but I do love to visit Digital Press every so often to have alook at peoples collections, esp the space it takes up in their bedrooms etc
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I don't think it really matters if someone collects videogames...


Keeping sealed videogames is pretty assholish, but not just buying a shit ton of games they may (or may not) play if a guide is made for it.
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jp wrote:I don't think it really matters if someone collects videogames...


Keeping sealed videogames is pretty assholish, but not just buying a shit ton of games they may (or may not) play if a guide is made for it.
All my games are still sealed...I just pretend to 1CC em! In fact, I don't even have electricity to be able to play em anyway. 8)
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TWITCHDOCTOR wrote:
jp wrote:I don't think it really matters if someone collects videogames...


Keeping sealed videogames is pretty assholish, but not just buying a shit ton of games they may (or may not) play if a guide is made for it.
All my games are still sealed...I just pretend to 1CC em! In fact, I don't even have electricity to be able to play em anyway. 8)
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roushimsx wrote:Fancy (on the left) and Zip (on the right)
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I see you've got a copy of Policenauts.

I'll see your "Playstation the Best!" version, and raise you an original version.

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Edit: I want your DoDonPachi DAI-OU-JOU. :(
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ArrogantBastard wrote:I'll see your "Playstation the Best!" version, and raise you an original version.
You got me there, but can you beat ESPGaluda with the Panda Family?

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roushimsx wrote:Adol's collections are awesome. Too bad those silly French always seem to just collect Japanese games and not US games for whatever reason
Let us assume that you lived in a nonEnglish speaking PAL territory. Electricity in said regions cycles at 50hz instead of 60. This causes PAL games to run 17.5% slower than NTSC and with big black bars around the edges as well. Not cool. So you'd instantly realize that PAL is fucked and do anything possible to be rid of it. That leaves two choices. US or JP. Do you decide to pick the region with less games, edited games and games that have already been out for umpteen months in another region or do you just choose the region where the good stuff comes from in the first place? And remember, in this scenario, English is not your native tongue. So no language incentive to buy one over the other.

The three choices:

PAL = Fucked, completely.

NTSC-U = Edited games, slow releases of stuff already out in Japan, games already out in Japan never being released, shite box/manual art - the latter often being black and white instead of color

NTSC-J = A full catalog of games as the developers intended them with proper art and manuals

So if you don't know English, have no interest in Madden and the like, don't dig big black bars on the edges of games that run slower than they do in the rest of the world, don't like your games censored or smitten with the blight of western voice acting, want a quality manual to go with your quality $50 game, want to play any and all puzzlers, platformers and shooters in a timely fashion as they are released, or just want some color on your shelf of games that you don't intend to play, which region would you choose?

BTW, I've heard that PAL stuff is getting better. But never having played PAL anything in the first place (Proud to be an American!) it's hard to estimate how much better it is. Even if the PAL electricity problem was totally solved, PAL regions would still have most or all of the same issues listed under the NTSC-U section.

For the record, I play both US and JP games because I live in a 60hz territory, mod my own systems and speak/read English fluently. I feel lucky to have the choice. English RPGs and Japanese puzzle games! It's a win-win situation :)

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Oh please god, make it stop. NTSC/UC games aren't always edited - in actual fact, Final Fantasy VII was released into america with extras. That's why "Final Fantasy VII International" was released in japan, to celebrate the selling of over 3 million copies. This is so the japanese could experience what was newly added and placed into the american versions.

Not all games get edited to a grade where you should be decisive over which to choose.

I'm caught between a rock and a hard place playing Dodonpachi, as I have it for MAME as well as PSX. I'm really not sure which version I do better on, but the PSX version always has the "Wait: On/Off" function - however, the graphics are rubbish compared to what the MAME version looks like on my screen.

And speaking of the "Wair: On/Off" function, that was added into a home port for japanese audiences. It's been edited from the original, which means it's bad? No, french people would probably still go for it just because it's japanese. They probably wouldn't even know that it's changed lightly from the original because it's probably still sitting on some shelf not being played.

And some poor, young kid wanted the game and missed out due to a collector wanting it to sit there and collect dust.
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Kron wrote:Someone buying a certain number of items and doing what they want with their money makes you grind your teeth?

Different strokes etc, I don't see the point in judging other peoples endevours as pointless just because they don't match my ideals.

If people want to use their money and collect something good luck to them.
Agreed, although the point about quality over quantity is definately a good one, IMO.

The term "hoarding" is getting WAY overused and out of place in this thread. What this individual is doing with DC games and what Blastaway was doing with PCB's are two COMPLETELY different things, in terms of pricing, availability, and, most importantly, motives. I guarantee you that you can find ANY JP-DC game this person owns if you just look hard enough and long enough on Ebay.

And for Pete's sake, if you don't like it, don't look at it! I don't like games with sex and cop-shooting in them, hence I do not own, nor ever will, a single game in the GTA series. Am I sick of games like this? Yes, but I'm not gonna bang my head against a brick wall in the hopes of stopping them from being released.
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NTSC US games aren't always edited. Lots are though. (I can't stand a lot of the awful voice acting that ends up in US versions for example). The choice is simply to get a product with more, or a product with less. Assuming you have the choice, seems pretty silly to go for less.
If a game was US developed, I'd get the US release instead for the same reason that things often get lost, changed or mixed up in a conversion.

I hardly ever buy PAL releases (though am in PAL terrority) normally because we get games last and importing is no longer more expensive than buying domestically (mostly). They're pretty much on par with US releases now. The 50Hz/black bars are generally only in the previous generation of consoles and earlier. One advantage is TVs have RGB as standard, which AFAIK is not the case in the US? PAL cover art is the worse of the lot though imo...

I get the japanese releases of japanese developed games, simply because thats exactly as they were intended to be, without the possibility of any outside hands messing around with it. And I'd rather have a shelf displaying the better artwork, than the ugly covers on the US/EU counterpart. Not just 'because it's japanese'.
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roushimsx wrote:
ArrogantBastard wrote:I'll see your "Playstation the Best!" version, and raise you an original version.
You got me there, but can you beat ESPGaluda with the Panda Family?

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Uhm, uhm... No. :(

But I've got the Viewtiful Joe bobble-head figurine. Does that count for anything?

(And DAMN you for having ESPGaluda, too! :()
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When I lived in the UK I always imported as well but it was mostly because UK and US games never really interested me. My heart in gaming is with Capcom, Sega, Namco et al.


The situation when I was there was simple.

All American and Japanese native software released in PAL territories would be butchered with borders and slowdown.

Native PAL stuff ran perfectly well because the devcos actually made 2 versions or worked it so that any deficit in speed or graphics could be tinkered with at the last minute. IE Tomb raider, Wipeout.

Tekken was always the biggest let down on PAL, it ran so slow and the characters were squashed, the timing of the combos was all out of place and it became totally unplayable for the arcade goer who was used to the proper 60hz version. The thing is though most PAL users don't care or are uninformed or just can't afford to import. The UK is really expensive for imports, like $75+ per game before shipping.
This industry has become 2 dimensional as it transcended into a 3D world.
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Elixir wrote:Oh please god, make it stop.
Make what stop? The truth?

Any Japanese developed game that did not feature English voice acting (or text) in its Japanese release and does feature English voice acting (or text) in its American release is edited. I heard on the internet that some people who play games don't like that. Sometimes. I'd rather play the JP versions of Mr Driller GBA games for that very reason. Yet I like Ogre Battle 64 in English. Go figure. So let's not run around pretending I'm being some interweb Japo-nazi-fag.

I have yet to play Final Fantasy 7 and the only version of DDP I have is the PCB. Original, so.

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Elixir wrote:Oh please god, make it stop. NTSC/UC games aren't always edited - in actual fact, Final Fantasy VII was released into america with extras. That's why "Final Fantasy VII International" was released in japan, to celebrate the selling of over 3 million copies.
No it wasn't. They just milked it, and have done that w/ every FF since then that I can think of. Even Namco jumped on that bandwagon w/ Xenosaga. Japanese is one of the few countries that'll buy the same thing twice. Oh, well -- more power to them if they can get away with it.

In the grand scheme of things, these cases are few and far between, andd PaCrappa's argument holds true. In the old days, it was for content. Now it seems more likely to be edited due to cost (like voice acting). Unless you're into US games, US is not the market you'd want to focus on.
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oi! holy shit!

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GaijinPunch wrote:
Elixir wrote:Oh please god, make it stop. NTSC/UC games aren't always edited - in actual fact, Final Fantasy VII was released into america with extras. That's why "Final Fantasy VII International" was released in japan, to celebrate the selling of over 3 million copies.
No it wasn't. They just milked it, and have done that w/ every FF since then that I can think of. Even Namco jumped on that bandwagon w/ Xenosaga. Japanese is one of the few countries that'll buy the same thing twice. Oh, well -- more power to them if they can get away with it.

In the grand scheme of things, these cases are few and far between, andd PaCrappa's argument holds true. In the old days, it was for content. Now it seems more likely to be edited due to cost (like voice acting). Unless you're into US games, US is not the market you'd want to focus on.
Why would some company sell games without full detail in japan, the leading country and where these kinds of products are produced, and have the game with full detail released to america? And you're telling me I shouldn't bother with US games?
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Why would some company sell games without full detail in japan
For the same reason I stated above. People will buy it again.
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[quote="Elixir"][/quote]
jesus, buy whatever version you want and be done with it. who cares what people do with their money?
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of all the things in this world THIS is what gets you upset...

you, sir, are in need of a realty-check...
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Not really. My point has been clearly made here.
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chtimi wrote:
Elixir wrote:
jesus, buy whatever version you want and be done with it. who cares what people do with their money?
Since when did I say, exactly, I cared about people and their money? More specifically, it's collectors and people who can't look after their own discs properly that rob that extra last copy from some young, wanting gamer.
of all the things in this world THIS is what gets you upset...

you, sir, are in need of a realty-check...
Yeah, playing unrealistic shooting games and pretending as if they're not a dying genre would throw your "realty"-check right back in your face.
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