Cave Games via Digital Distro: Lets Discuss!

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I like digital distribution as I get games NOW. An ADHD kid like doesn't wanna wait like 3 weeks for it to deliver. I really hope we start seeing other shmups as well (like Eschatos) using this service.
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Im quite happy with this, seems like the most sensible way for cave to bring its games to the west. Im reluctant to inflated prices to importers for the few region free shooters, and there is no way i would ever be able to justify buying a jap 360.
I dont really hold out much hope for any of these games being released in europe, Deathsmiles was a very nice surprise but i cant see anything else being released over here.
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neon guide wrote:I dont really hold out much hope for any of these games being released in europe, Deathsmiles was a very nice surprise but i cant see anything else being released over here.
Why? Rising Star Games is announcing new titles next month and I'm almost sure there are new CAVE games for Europe.
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hipgnosis wrote:
neon guide wrote:I dont really hold out much hope for any of these games being released in europe, Deathsmiles was a very nice surprise but i cant see anything else being released over here.
Why? Rising Star Games is announcing new titles next month and I'm almost sure there are new CAVE games for Europe.
Well if Cave fancies releasing games themselves, they might just keep hold of them for the time being. Havent all the reports from Rising Star about Deathsmiles been very mixed? I'll look out for their new product announcement, Rising Star do publish a lot of very cool obscure stuff (I only just had a good look through their catalogue), so I would love them to surprise me.
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Fortunately I don't think good sales are that important to RSG. But of course they wouldn't publish a game that doesn't break even.
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Looks like Canada and Mexico will be getting DS2X soon http://www.siliconera.com/2011/05/22/de ... n-tuesday/
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Thread died :(

Any news regarding GoD, Cave, etc?

Surprised this thread didn't assplode like 2C4C:TR did....
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2C4C bitches!

I'm still waiting to hear from RSG. Their big announcement may end up being just GoD releases as well.
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I prefer physical copies...but if my choices are GoD or Import...I can stomach GoD.

Any word on how well DS2X did?
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Kollision wrote:I hope Cave goes bankrupt.
I hope game-on-demand doesn't become a trend for the games that got disc/proper releases in Japan. I like having an actual disc, manual, and cover to show for what I paid for. I might pay to download something if I have the option to burn them onto a disc and print the [translated] manual and cover. The other thing is having the option to sell the disc used if I were to get bored of the game.
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MauJustice wrote:I prefer physical copies...but if my choices are GoD or Import...I can stomach GoD.

Any word on how well DS2X did?
Abysmally I should think; but abysmally might be OK if the commission or fee that MS charges people to list their games on GoD isn't too much.
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Slightly OT, it seems that the rumor regard RSG bring DDPDFK to Europe is gaining cred...

Still not even a RUMORE about DDP for North America? It would surely sell better than DS NA or DSIIX GoD....

Maybe?
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Hell, I'd buy it again as a disc release in North America, but will discourage any new people from buying as g.o.d.
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What a pathetic and immensely dumb thing to say. There really are some utterly brainless people on this forum. No wonder it's looking like NA won't be seeing any more disc releases. With ignorant attitudes like that you don't deserve them.
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xbl0x180 wrote:Hell, I'd buy it again as a disc release in North America, but will discourage any new people from buying as g.o.d.
I'm sorry, what? Why would ever DISCOURAGE new people from buying something simply because it's GoD exclusive? If it's GoD or nothing at all, I'll gladly take GoD and tell everyone I know to buy it as well. I like discs/manuals and such as much as anybody, but boycotting a GoD-only release isn't gonna make a physical copy suddenly appear, nor will it encourage the company from releasing future games on a disc.
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drunkninja24 wrote:
xbl0x180 wrote:Hell, I'd buy it again as a disc release in North America, but will discourage any new people from buying as g.o.d.
I'm sorry, what? Why would ever DISCOURAGE new people from buying something simply because it's GoD exclusive? If it's GoD or nothing at all, I'll gladly take GoD and tell everyone I know to buy it as well. I like discs/manuals and such as much as anybody, but boycotting a GoD-only release isn't gonna make a physical copy suddenly appear, nor will it encourage the company from releasing future games on a disc.
Well, that's what a free market is all about. You buy what you like. Personally, I wouldn't pay a cent for something I dislike - g.o.d. being one of those things and I'd hate it for it to become a trend rather than putting the product the way it was originally sold. F that noise. Besides, I've already got the disc, so it's no problem to ignore the bullshit, download-only releases. If it's the only way to get the game, then I can just move on to something else. It's pretty simple, really, since they're not the only game in town.
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For what it's worth, it is my understanding that the US retail release of the original Deathsmiles sold BETTER than expected. As for the "games on demand" release of IIX, two weeks ago it was listed at $39.99 and just last weekend it was dropped to $29.99. It would seem to me that would be an indication that they felt compeled to take action to increase sales. Personally, I really LIKE the concept for GoD releases of Cave games here in the US, BUT I think they would do MUCH better as Live Arcade titles EVEN IF they were "highly priced" at 1,600 points (or whatever). It's mostly a psychological thing. You can buy a 1,600 point card for $20 at your local store and redeem it on your console, but to purchase a GoD title, you HAVE to use a credit card through the service on your account. Not a big issue for a responsible adult who doesn't mind performing online charges with your credit card, but not ideal for someone who likes to use Live points (like a young person who doesn't have a credit card).

Although I LOVE the intrinsic perceived value of owning retail packaging with manuals and bonus materials (that you can't really read ANYWAY), having a game installed on your hard drive or USB drive is MUCH more convenient than swapping discs. Particularly if (like me) your system is not easy to get to and you like to "drop in and out" of short playing sessions of different games. If i cant feel like i actually got some enjoyment out of playing a game for 5 or 10 minutes, then i really don't like to waste my time with games that make you jump through hoops just to get to soe action. This is one of the things that I really like about my PS3's and all of the Playstation Store releases that I have installed on them...

I HOPE that more Japanese games get released on Live or GoD, but in the meantime, I am having to wait for Play-Asia to ship me my goods. They had some GREAT deals this last week, and I ended up getting DDP DFK for only $34, Eschatos for around $60 and the first print limited edition of Akai Katana Shin for under $80. The standard version is in the $60 range...

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LeeB99 wrote: having a game installed on your hard drive or USB drive is MUCH more convenient than swapping discs.

I personally feel the same way about it.

I have SO MANY GAMES.

I modded my PS2, Wii, Xbox, and PSP just so I could rip my games to the console's hard drive in order to have everything for that system self contained and backed up. BAM! The point is disc swapping and scratched discs and optical drives' potential to shit the bed all made the hack all the more attractive.

With the 360 I stand the chance of having a nice number of what I consider to be some of the best STGs out there ALL READY TO PLAY WITH NO DISC JUGGLING.

PLUS: I don't like having to open up my fuggin cabinets to swap DISCS....
That's what PCBs are for.

I like discs, I like hard drives, I like Cave games and I like to play 10 games without ever looking away from the screen.

Asada! Bring on the GAMES~! is the message here folks.

Carry on!
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i ll take a pyshical copy any day... pay the same price for a digital copy as a phys one? silly silly silly. digital should always be cheaper but the greedy companies cant figure this out. if your savin money pass it on to the consumer dont pocket that shit and pretend i m to ignorant to the production and distrobution logistics of the game industry to realize i ve been had. its insulting.
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iluvmonsterz wrote:i ll take a pyshical copy any day... pay the same price for a digital copy as a phys one? silly silly silly. digital should always be cheaper but the greedy companies cant figure this out. if your savin money pass it on to the consumer dont pocket that shit and pretend i m to ignorant to the production and distrobution logistics of the game industry to realize i ve been had. its insulting.
Very much this, if you also account for how boxed games (especially in the UK) quickly drop in price, some DD games can be double the price of a boxed version. Untill publishers stop been greedy DD will never fully replace boxed when it comes to AAA. DD is fantastic for niche / indie games though
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iluvmonsterz wrote:i ll take a pyshical copy any day... pay the same price for a digital copy as a phys one? silly silly silly. digital should always be cheaper but the greedy companies cant figure this out. if your savin money pass it on to the consumer dont pocket that shit and pretend i m to ignorant to the production and distrobution logistics of the game industry to realize i ve been had. its insulting.
Show me where you can buy retail DSIIX new for $29.99.
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xbl0x180 wrote:Well, that's what a free market is all about. You buy what you like. Personally, I wouldn't pay a cent for something I dislike - g.o.d. being one of those things and I'd hate it for it to become a trend rather than putting the product the way it was originally sold. F that noise. Besides, I've already got the disc, so it's no problem to ignore the bullshit, download-only releases. If it's the only way to get the game, then I can just move on to something else. It's pretty simple, really, since they're not the only game in town.
You'll foresake buying a brilliant game if it's only available for download? You've basically missed out on some of the best games this gen then, and chances are, you'll be missing out on most of the best games in the future too, because digital distribution is here to stay and will only grow in prominence. Denying yourself a brillaint game purely because of the distribution method is one of the most hilariously retarded things I've ever read.
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