Cave Games via Digital Distro: Lets Discuss!

[Matskat]

Deathsmiles IIx now available on GoD via XBLA....Asada says in his blog that if it sells decently then Cave will release their other Japan only games through the service....

Lets get crazy with the theories!

What's their next game for GoD?
In What order will they release games?
etc...

1 - 2- 3 - and GO!

[Zeron]

I like GoD in the sense that I dont freaking need to juggle discs when I want to play a game, and not to mention the faster release which I hope it would provide.


Cons; No box or disc haha yeah I know I just mentioned how nice it was not to need to juggle between discs but it truly feels like you own the game more when you also got a physical copy.

[kernow]

1 - 2- 3 - and GO!

[supergrafx77]

Akai Katana Shin would be smashing, also at $29.99!

[Special World]

I'm glad that they're putting their games on GoD. I like having the boxes and longevity of disc-based games, though.

I really want them to put up some more of their older games on XBLA, though.

[Kollision]

I hope Cave goes bankrupt.

[Elixir]

Akai Katana Shin would be smashing, also at $29.99!

Yeah, this is not an unrealistic expectation in the slightest.

[Matskat]

Lookin good so far...

My input at this stage:

DDPDOJBLEX + DFK 1.5+arrange via GoD #1 Priority

then

Ketsui Kizuna Extra Mega Brack etc LOLBBQ!

Then....Hmmm...dunno...what's really left?

Garuda II, Mushiftuari 1.5, Pork&Sweets combo, DS NA, and now DSIIx are all available to us Westerners...
Leaving DDP and Ketsuis' I guess...Plus Akai Katana which I bet will happen (but hopeful not until DDP happens...come on Cave!)

[Austin]

If they are going to be charging $30 for them, they could at least spend some time to give us translated versions. I feel it's kind of cheap the way they are doing it, considering we have gotten full-on, translated packages in the past, for under half the price (Ikaruga, Trigger Heart, Raystorm HD, Guwange, etc). I still appreciate they are doing it, but it seems half-assed to me given the price point.

[Jeneki]

If it helps to get some of their older stuff distributed, I wouldn't mind digital distribution (ala Guwange on Live Arcade).

As far as Games on Demand, I hope they get Ketsui on there asap. I want to push that mofo on my friends like a crack dealer.

[DragonInstall]

Don't expect Akai Katana anytime soon...

But I can see Mushi, Espgaluda II, and Ketsui up there on the priority list.

[apple arcade]

since it works with ntscj consoles it'll be a good way to preview games.

I plan to pick up Shin Akai Katana but can't swing 140$ for the LE at the moment. Picking up a 30$ release instead will deff tide me over

[Weak Boson]

I hope Deathsmiles IIX makes its way to Europe one way or another. I have no problem at all with digital distribution; I really don't see why people rate holding discs so highly. RSG did a great job with Deathsmiles but I wouldn't be sad if they left the sequel to GoD, especially if it means we get it quicker.

[cstle]

If they are going to be charging $30 for them, they could at least spend some time to give us translated versions. I feel it's kind of cheap the way they are doing it, considering we have gotten full-on, translated packages in the past, for under half the price (Ikaruga, Trigger Heart, Raystorm HD, Guwange, etc). I still appreciate they are doing it, but it seems half-assed to me given the price point.

That's not really the same. All those XBLA games are kinda old and more importantly; not retail releases in Japan. Cave/MS are essentially offering a $30 digital import version of a 7140yen game. It's a steal.

OT: I hope more games get put up on GoD asap, even if they're not as cheap as DS2 was. It'd be awesome to have DDP DFK, BL, and Akai Katana up soon in the next few months, even if they'd probably have to be full price or something to keep it fair for the JP buyers.

[Aconcit]

I commend this practice of bringing imports overseas via digital distribution and really couldn't care less about physical media. I'm hoping 5pb jumps on this practice.

[Matskat]

OT: I hope more games get put up on GoD asap, even if they're not as cheap as DS2 was. It'd be awesome to have DDP DFK, BL, and Akai Katana up soon in the next few months, even if they'd probably have to be full price or something to keep it fair for the JP buyers.

This...

and

THIS:

I commend this practice of bringing imports overseas via digital distribution and really couldn't care less about physical media. I'm hoping 5pb jumps on this practice.

[Deca]

Fingers crossed for DFKBL...I don't even like DFK but THAT SOUNDTRACK, and who knows maybe I'll enjoy BL.

I'm still hoping we get a disc release of Akai Katana, against all odds.

[Skykid]

I hope Cave goes bankrupt.

LOL!

[Kaspal]

Fingers crossed for DFKBL...I don't even like DFK but THAT SOUNDTRACK, and who knows maybe I'll enjoy BL.

I'm still hoping we get a disc release of Akai Katana, against all odds.

well, even tho i'd love to ahve all of recent CAVE shmups on my console to play, i'd give them my money for Daifukkatsu and BL first and then the others... i've been playing that b!tch for awhile on my iTouch, and i just love the mofo, and would love to play it on a bigger screen with proper controllers...... but, whatever they decide to release on GoD i'd get anyway.

[TrevHead (TVR)]

While I dont mind DD for most of my games, I still want discs for the games that I can see myself still playing 10 years down the line. Its also a control thing, as while I have a CD I have more control over what I do with my purchase, rather then the game just sitting on my HD and some corporate server.

Ill will agree that having games on GOD is much better then nothing at all though, but in my eyes it devalues the product.

[Kaspal]

While I dont mind DD for most of my games, I still want discs for the games that I can see myself still playing 10 years down the line. Its also a control thing, as while I have a CD I have more control over what I do with my purchase, rather then the game just sitting on my HD and some corporate server.

Ill will agree that having games on GOD is much better then nothing at all though, but in my eyes it devalues the product.

true that... now, i'd like to ask:
is there a legit way to backup your downloaded games? i mean, getting the game AND the license and copy them over a pendrive so that you can then burn them on a DVD or something? cuz, it'd suck if i wanna play this thing 5-10 year down the road and it's not available on the marketplace or something.

that's what frightens me the most with DD ... things can get lost in the "cloud" and it doesnt even matter if you paid for it or not, if its gone, its gone, and so its your money!

[BulletMagnet]

I'm a physical media dinosaur so these sorts of releases don't mean much to me personally, but I am glad that others who don't share the same preferences are at least getting a shot at more games - so long as Cave's able to cater to the both of us I've got no real problem with it.

[Vyxx]

If they are going to be charging $30 for them, they could at least spend some time to give us translated versions.

People care about the stories in Shmups

[jepjepjep]

I'm a physical media dinosaur so these sorts of releases don't mean much to me personally, but I am glad that others who don't share the same preferences are at least getting a shot at more games - so long as Cave's able to cater to the both of us I've got no real problem with it.

This pretty much sums up how I feel about it too. The disc release feels like game ownership to me, whereas a digital download feels like a rental agreement. If they were DRM-free, it would be another story (of course that's never going to happen, officially).

I think it's great that the games are opened up to the US audience through an official channel. I hope that more people are turned on to the genre because of it.

[brentsg]

I do prefer physical media, but at this point.. if I could snap my fingers and have legitimate digital copies of all my games from the Atari 2600 until today I'd be a happy camper. I don't mean just backups either, snap and they're converted.

Sure, there are some treasures I like to have on the shelf but for the most part it's wasted space.

Requirements would be:
-Ability to play on the original hardware
-No pesky DRM that goes so far as to require "online play" or other BS to play my single player games
-Ability to make my own backups for safety. I know the HD on my 360 or whatever isn't going to last forever

[kungfukid]

Honestly, Cave is just teasing my wallet at this point. I finally convince myself it's worth the money to buy an import Xbox 360 and then Cave goes ahead and releases Deathsmiles IIX on games on demand.

So now I'm at the mercy of Cave's experiment sick experiment because they couldn't release a select few of their games without region locks!

I don't care about boxes and discs Cave! I just want to shoot things up for higher and higher scores.

[chempop]

I'm a physical media dinosaur

LOL, same here but as an option I like the potential for westerners who have been aching to play some of the jpn-region locked games.

Sure some of us can drop big bucks on importing a jpn-console and LE's, but for the sane individuals who want to play some shmups on their 360 they can still do it and save 75% in the process (waiting for platinum and DD releases).

Believe it or not a small part of me wishes I had waited for cheaper alternatives rather than pre-ordering all these LE imports. I think seeing the PS2 releases climb in price made me think the same would have happened with the 360 ones. Hard to say in the long run, but I could have saved a lot of money if I was more patient.

[BPzeBanshee]

Then....Hmmm...dunno...what's really left?

Garuda II, Mushiftuari 1.5, Pork&Sweets combo, DS NA, and now DSIIx are all available to us Westerners...
Leaving DDP and Ketsuis' I guess...Plus Akai Katana which I bet will happen (but hopeful not until DDP happens...come on Cave!)

You forgot ESPRade.

Also, DoDonPachi has a PS1/PSN port. Apparently it's lame (and having tried it via emulator on PS3 the input lag on the controller really shows too) and a XBLA port bundled with DonPachi possibly would be a great sell.

As for the GoD vs physical disc, I'd prefer the hard disc myself due to precisely what has been mentioned here about the digital service being wiped out in years' time. On one hand having it digitally is easy and convenient, but on the other hand internet download speeds here are awful slow compared to America and it'd take ages to download a disc here, and in my case having more potential to go wrong on the initial "get" stage.

[gray117]

hmm ... Digital distribution is the way forward for all games... just not this generation. I believe for a niche genre it is the best way to grow your market. Right now, however, its a bit difficult - retail is still massive and cave seems to garner an easier, path of least resistance, route to their market via retail releases.

I would like to see a dlc route to buy the game, and then an opt-in top up price to buy physical copy, limited editions and/or merchandise... Why this doesn't happen already is frustrating to me...

[Zeron]

I hope Cave goes bankrupt.

My envisioned fall of CAVE is them getting full of themselves and pretty much invest everything in some action hack'n slash game, and it ends up being a mediocre game that bombs hard and they are dead after 2 years.


Something like Guilty Gear 2 Overture