Ibara impressions (yay, it's finally out!)

Post by **Icarus** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 1:42 am

zaphod wrote:But it's opposite with raizing rank. playin gfor score is essential to rank control. it's totally against everything you know.

And that's why some players (including myself) like Raizing style rank systems. And that's the reason why this game will appeal to some, and will be loathed by others.

Which is a shame really, since Ibara is such a brilliant game. What'll humor me more is that this will probably be the first Cave game that gets more hate than love from shmuppers around the globe.

Although, how is "playing for score" counterintuitive? You stil have to score to get lives in other games, it's just a lot more important in Garegga and Raizing games.

To quote myself, from a post earlier in the thread:

Icarus wrote:I have this weird feeling that Ibara will become the new Garegga. Much loved by some, much hated by others, for all the same reasons that follows every Garegga discussion/debate.

And a quote from Yoda

In The Empire Strikes Back, Yoda said, not wrote:You must unlearn that what you have learned.

zaphod · Post by **zaphod** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 1:45 am

btw, Icarus. play garegga and set it to no extends. see how that affects the rank. I'm guessing it waters it down a LOT...

Post by **Icarus** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 1:48 am

zaphod wrote:btw, Icarus. play garegga and set it to no extends. see how that affects the rank. I'm guessing it waters it down a LOT...

I have the Chinese revision of Garegga. No Extends (except the one on stage 3). It doesn't water it down that much TBH, just a slightly less rapid increase. You still have to play with intermediate rank control methods.

If anything, it's like a cross between Garegga and Raiden DX.

SAM · Post by **SAM** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:55 am

Just seen this on another shumups forum, quite a fun discription on the behaviour of the bosses.

asfwl2 from HK-STG wrote:還有, 經過好一陣子的體驗後, 發現這遊戲的隨機性實在太多.... 女人果然, 善變

1. 第一版boss上4支小砲台是很隨那小女孩的心情, 不過即使是2個旋轉風車彈也沒太大威脅就是
2. 第二版boss第1身... 太神奇了, 她喜歡的便會一開始衝下來, 甚至連續衝兩次也不發彈呢
3. 第二版boss最後一身, 放波動砲後是有機會拉到畫面底shoot不爆的, 甚至在到畫面邊時送你一個零距離攻擊了結你
4. 第三版boss, 若她喜歡你: 便會一開始對著你砲門全開 (2支追身劍彈+2支大針追身彈+1支突擊追身劍彈+2支小針彈) , 又可能是根據她對你的好感度去隨意開上述的砲門....
6. 第三版boss, 若她希望你留下來, 最後一身會對著你狂發, 吃你3支波動砲... 也不太想和你說再見
7. 第四版boss, 根據她當時的心情, 她可能會飛的很高, 又或是在你面前近距離飄移... 當然, 會在中間高度飄來飄去的也會有
8. 第四版boss, 如何得知她喜歡你? 看她會否來一個近距離旋轉風車和四砲門巨型火箭狂發便知道
9. 第五版boss第一身, 根據她當時的心情她會選擇是否炸彈單邊3隻爪便轉型態
10. 第五版boss第二身, 若你好運的她大概不會增加彈的密度....
11. 第五版boss第三身.... 她若要你留下來, 她會一直追著你發針彈不放, 並且多少支波動砲也沒法阻止她對你的追求
12. 第六版boss第一身, 一開始若她想仁慈一點會放追身針彈...

... 太多, 不能盡錄.. 不過可以肯定的共通點是: 這一班少女們喜歡隨意改變自己的血量

( 以上一切和你的rank有關, 但random性依然存在 )

(Treaditional Chinese Character - BIG 5)

SAM · Post by **SAM** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:21 pm

Here is the translation:

After playing the game for a while, I found that quite a lot radom patterns in this game.... Women are really hard to predit.

1. The 4 little connons on the Stage 1 Boss behave according to the mood of the little girl. But there is no big deal even all the two wind-wheel shooting at the same time.

2. The first mode of the Stage 2 Boss is ... really masterius, she charge you right in the beginning when she like to do so, sometimes she even did this twice without firing a shot.

3. For the last mode of the Stage 2 Boss, there is a chance that the boss would be able to reach to the buttom of the screen even through you are firing the "hyper connon" at her. She finish you with a point blank range shot when she reach the bottom.

4. If the Stage 3 Boss love you, she would open fire with all her guns right in the beginning (2 sword aiming shots + 2 big neddle shots + 1 'ambusing'sword aiming shot + 2 small neddle shots). And may be she would decide open fire with how many guns according to how much she love you...

(Where is point 5?!?!)

6. If the Stage 3 Boss really wish you to stay, her last mode would firing at you like mad, even if you shoot her three times with the "hyper connon"... she is still not willing to leave you.

(still more to go... I won't post this pessage if I know that would be so much work...)

Post by **Icarus** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:07 pm

Yeah, I've noticed all those. The Rose girls are quite vindictive, vicious and unpredicatable. Occasionally I can no-miss Meidi without problems. Occasionally Meidi kicks me in the nuts and laughs when I'm down.

Rank definitely plays a huge part in the bosses' selection of attack patterns. Trying to keep rank down is a bit of a challenge. If anything, you're forced to keep only Machine Gun and Gatling if you want to stay alive, but you often need Rocket and Five Way just to give you extra power against bosses.

I also think that the personality of the Rose girls plays a big part in their attack selections, as you have rightly translated. Some of them tend to stick around, even when you are pummeling them with the hadou, some love to attempt to ram into you, some use one type ofattack, some use all their weapons at once.

Ack, I need my capture card sorted so I can get some footage of the game done.

incognoscente · Post by **incognoscente** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:32 am

Stage section of official Ibara site updated.

Ord · Post by **Ord** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:17 pm

Wow! Fantastic stuff.

I've nicked those images for my forth coming Ibara review. You can really appreaciate the beautiful backgrounds and the stunning design of the enemy craft. Fuck I love this game!

captain ahar · Post by **captain ahar** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:22 pm

Ord wrote:Wow! Fantastic stuff. I've nicked those images for my forth coming Ibara review. You can really appreaciate the beautiful backgrounds and the stunning design of the enemy craft. Fuck I love this game!

fuck you're making me jealous by having actual access to it!