Pink Sweets & Muchi Muchi Pork bundle - Xbox 360!!!!!

[CptRansom]

Wait, are you saying that a business wants to do something that will make money?

Holy shit. My mind is BLOWN.

[brentsg]

Lots of TLDR today..

[StarCreator]

Because I only skimmed the last two pages and I don't THINK anyone cared to answer...

The scoring in MMP is quite fun, but why is it that the, uh, "level" of the gold/tokens/whatever drops sometimes? I could SWEAR I'm not letting any of the bloody things fall off the screen, but every now and then the level of those will go down anyway....

Medals spawn either randomly or at certain score thresholds, so you have to keep a very keen eye out for ones that fall through the screen for seemingly no reason. You can still suck these stray medals in with your B shot.

[DMC]

So MMP/PS out of all games got ported retail in a bundle, available in all regions, something inconceivable not long ago, and people are complaining about the price? Im hyped anyway! The port ever!

[Elixir]

I have no "high standards"

Correction, you have no standards.

Please keep complaining about a game you don't even own and can't even judge, it really adds to the discussion.

[Sapz]

God damn, Pink Sweets is so brutal, even in 1.01. Having it kick my ass is so much fun I've barely touched anything else on disc, though. I really like Shasta A so far, made it up to stage 4. I think I'll be there a while.

[Despatche]

this port sounds like a barrel of laughs, what is cave trying to do here

I think someone needs to throw up a completely new board for this port, entirely separate from the existing threads

also, that two different modes are considered together is hilarious

Sorry Folk,i am here at a FORUM,so i can express my opinion..simple.

which would be great and all except:

1) you have no idea what you're talking about
2) you think you have some idea of what you're talking about
3) you think we should respect the above two points

[stryc9]

Oh honestly, for goodness sake I'm sick of people whining about shit they havn't even seen yet. The amount of shooters we are getting at the moment is unprecidented and we should be thankful for it.
Ive got every retail release for J360 except for DOJBLEX and have found no reason to complain at all so far. All the ports have options onboard that blow away the previous generation by a huge margin.
Who cares if it's not HD optimised? Don't get me wrong, it's great when a port gets the HD treatment, but a port of two games, previously unreleased, which don't should be the least of your worries. Anyway it doesn't matter, all I have to do is read posts from people like 8 1/2 who love this package to know that there is nothing to worry about. Rant over.

[Special World]

Oh honestly, for goodness sake I'm sick of people whining about shit they havn't even seen yet. The amount of shooters we are getting at the moment is unprecidented and we should be thankful for it.
Ive got every retail release for J360 except for DOJBLEX and have found no reason to complain at all so far. All the ports have options onboard that blow away the previous generation by a huge margin.
Who cares if it's not HD optimised? Don't get me wrong, it's great when a port gets the HD treatment, but a port of two games, previously unreleased, which don't should be the least of your worries. Anyway it doesn't matter, all I have to do is read posts from people like 8 1/2 who love this package to know that there is nothing to worry about. Rant over.

While I've been having a blast with this release, there's more to it than wanting an HD option. For example, I can understand how somebody might be upset that Pink Sweets no longer has the infinite lives trick, as that was apparently a crucial component of high level play in Pink Sweets. That's something that really should have had an on/off switch rather than a complete omission.

It is a rather shoddy port all around, but the gameplay shines through for me. If I had played the arcade versions, I'd probably be pretty upset too.

[stryc9]

Infinite Lives trick announced as DLC for March 800 Live points

[Kollision]

Infinite Lives trick announced as DLC for March 800 Live points

Hahahaha

[exquisite_torture]

Looks better than Guwange on a CRT via RGB scart IMO. There's no weird scaling artifacts during motion in this and the smoothing filter is also pretty good.

I missed this.
That'll do me
I'm not a 1cc savant. Give it 12 months, though.

[rocketassistedkea]

Heya...it'll be months before my '360's healthy enough to play anything but; 'kick the '360', or 'keep the door open'. It can play those well, but they get pretty boring...no substitute for a good shmup.
It's ill, there's been an earthquake, see...don't even know if I'll stay in the city; may just leave overseas for a couple of years. I live in Christchurch. A bit of a mess.
Anywho...sounds like this port's not 100% perfect, I care a little....but I'm still looking forward to getting this, and trying out PS especially [I love rank, and games that savage me brutally].....we really are being spoilt. Maybe there's not so many games being made yearly, as in the early/mid '90's....but the backlog of ports being released [and a few new ones] really makes this a second-shmup renaissance. And RS...and his mighty crown on XBLA? A possible BD/UD double-pack? Espchil...ada [something with a cool sounding shield]? Some G.Rev Mega Robot Super-Shooting Situation [tm]? And, and and...;0)

Funtimes.

Z

[Skykid]

Wow, I love how half this page just turned into a total whine-fest. Good god. Shut the fuck up and be happy CAVE is still in business and still releasing all of these games for us, stop whining about tiny, nitpicky bullshit. Who cares if they didn't release the game you wanted before the games you didn't want, or didn't make a fucking menu to your high and mighty standards. You aren't their only customer. People do this shit with XBLA games all the time on xbox forums, it makes you sound like a damn child. Both games look very good if you turn off the smoothing and I've played it on 4 TVs in my house with absolutely no problems whatsoever.

Sorry Folk,i am here at a FORUM,so i can express my opinion..simple.And as you can see im not the guy who shit out senseless posts or even whining on other topics.I have no "high standards",but seeing those 2 for retail price in a condition that is worth 800 points for one of them on xbox arcade marketplace,that is what bothers me.thats not nitpicking,its plain reality.And cool if you are enjoying this grand release.Im respecting that.So,you should respect other people opinions too..

do you think they release those games to please the crowd or what? wake up,they just want to make good money with some out of date games.instead of pushing them out on arcade for 800 points for one or even 1200 for both,some genius there@CAVE HQ said:"stop guys,we print a double cover,do this on disc and we can demand full price,cool eh?" maybe it was the same genius who decided to release both DFK`s regionlocked just to see "uhhh,sales werent good...BUT we have something that some publisher will maybe localize some day in one of the next years so we can make another penny out of it"

this is fanbase orientated? that is pure chaos imho..even to sell a black label version for full price..thats just riding the cash cow,they are in best focus of their loyal fanbase who will buy everything,if good or not,overpriced or not

sorry,i hope the sales of this will totally bomb.(and looking in my crystal ball right over here it says: SURE sales will bomb)Now with this release they should crap out the Rest of their Games in minimum effort to Xbox Live,that shouldnt be the Problem,Guwange was approved on LIVE,so,where are the rest of the games? should we all be thankful if they announce,that on X-Mas 2011 e.s.p.RADE is coming to live or what? No,they should release the Rest of the Backcatalogue in the next months,than they have enough time to do some "cool" akai katana iPhone Version or a visual novel with the mushihimesama chars or do some more festivals selling loli bedclothes to the otakus,seems that this is now their focus...i dont expect one more great NEW vert shmup from them

and yes i like the games really,but there are obviously strange things happening at cave.At least say could be honest say "hey guys,this was meant to be a xbox live release,we thought it were cool to make it a double pack retail release,so thats why it is how it is,but we will do our best and patch this to your pleasure"

Fuck Xbox Live, fuck it in its stupid gamer point ass.

It's Muchi Muchi Pork and Pink Sweets on one disc. It could be presented in MS DOS for all I care. People here have waited years to play these two titles, and the issue of port quality takes precedent above packaging.

[jpj]

no surprise that infinite lives was taken out of pink sweets, and glad some of my other criticisms of pink sweets were addressed in the 1.01 version

[Zeether]

Wow, I love how half this page just turned into a total whine-fest. Good god. Shut the fuck up and be happy CAVE is still in business and still releasing all of these games for us, stop whining about tiny, nitpicky bullshit. Who cares if they didn't release the game you wanted before the games you didn't want, or didn't make a fucking menu to your high and mighty standards. You aren't their only customer. People do this shit with XBLA games all the time on xbox forums, it makes you sound like a damn child. Both games look very good if you turn off the smoothing and I've played it on 4 TVs in my house with absolutely no problems whatsoever.

Sorry Folk,i am here at a FORUM,so i can express my opinion..simple.And as you can see im not the guy who shit out senseless posts or even whining on other topics.I have no "high standards",but seeing those 2 for retail price in a condition that is worth 800 points for one of them on xbox arcade marketplace,that is what bothers me.thats not nitpicking,its plain reality.And cool if you are enjoying this grand release.Im respecting that.So,you should respect other people opinions too..

do you think they release those games to please the crowd or what? wake up,they just want to make good money with some out of date games.instead of pushing them out on arcade for 800 points for one or even 1200 for both,some genius there@CAVE HQ said:"stop guys,we print a double cover,do this on disc and we can demand full price,cool eh?" maybe it was the same genius who decided to release both DFK`s regionlocked just to see "uhhh,sales werent good...BUT we have something that some publisher will maybe localize some day in one of the next years so we can make another penny out of it"

this is fanbase orientated? that is pure chaos imho..even to sell a black label version for full price..thats just riding the cash cow,they are in best focus of their loyal fanbase who will buy everything,if good or not,overpriced or not

sorry,i hope the sales of this will totally bomb.(and looking in my crystal ball right over here it says: SURE sales will bomb)Now with this release they should crap out the Rest of their Games in minimum effort to Xbox Live,that shouldnt be the Problem,Guwange was approved on LIVE,so,where are the rest of the games? should we all be thankful if they announce,that on X-Mas 2011 e.s.p.RADE is coming to live or what? No,they should release the Rest of the Backcatalogue in the next months,than they have enough time to do some "cool" akai katana iPhone Version or a visual novel with the mushihimesama chars or do some more festivals selling loli bedclothes to the otakus,seems that this is now their focus...i dont expect one more great NEW vert shmup from them

and yes i like the games really,but there are obviously strange things happening at cave.At least say could be honest say "hey guys,this was meant to be a xbox live release,we thought it were cool to make it a double pack retail release,so thats why it is how it is,but we will do our best and patch this to your pleasure"

[bcass]

Wow, I love how half this page just turned into a total whine-fest. Good god. Shut the fuck up and be happy CAVE is still in business and still releasing all of these games for us, stop whining about tiny, nitpicky bullshit. Who cares if they didn't release the game you wanted before the games you didn't want, or didn't make a fucking menu to your high and mighty standards. You aren't their only customer. People do this shit with XBLA games all the time on xbox forums, it makes you sound like a damn child. Both games look very good if you turn off the smoothing and I've played it on 4 TVs in my house with absolutely no problems whatsoever.

Hey MachineAres 1CC, how about you shut the fuck up and stop telling people what they can and can't talk about. You do realise that by moaning about people moaning you come accross as twice the dick, right? Honestly, your trolling is more embarresingly transparent than ever right about now.

[bcass]

You are correct. It took first place in a poll held by Cave's Dev Blog. A poll that shocked CAVE with a surprising number of Western respondents.

You got a link to back that up?

[Skykid]

no surprise that infinite lives was taken out of pink sweets, and glad some of my other criticisms of pink sweets were addressed in the 1.01 version

Well the authenticity of the ports themselves seems to be a much more valid gripe for this thread (than the packaging ). I've not heard the best things about either MMP or PS in these terms, apparently there's a ton of slowdown missing and a ton added in in MMP (and according to EOJ, even a section where an actual attack formation is missing, costing the player millions of points ).

EDIT: Ah, he's put a review up with all the gory details:

http://www.cave-stg.com/?p=1041

[evil_ash_xero]

Hrmm....

I have never played the PCBs, so the slowdown issue is one that I can't really relate to, or comment on. However, I would never say "don't get this, it's a bad port" to someone who hasn't played these. I mean, it is NOT like Mushi or Ibara on the PS2, where you could just tell by looking at them that something was seriously wrong. These actually look quite nice(especially on a CRT).

The slowdown, of course, is an issue. So anyone who has been playing the PCBs or want to challenge scores on a PCB scoreboard, i'd understand the disappointment. But if you haven't played these, and are expecting some kind of botched sloppy port(besides slowdown accuracy), you're being badly misled.

There is some slowdown issues in MMP, that are noticeable anyway, but it's not the end of the world or anything. It's not as bad as say, Mushi Futari BL, which is awful...and was done by M2!

[Weak Boson]

I’m in two minds about this now. I've always seen arrange modes as amusing distractions from the 'real' thing. Maybe that's a stupid thing to say, but for me the arcade versions were the real draw - it's these that have got so much praise. Maybe if the 1.01 modes are as good as EOJ says it would be worth it, but having to settle for them is disappointing however you cut it.

[Skykid]

I’m in two minds about this now. I've always seen arrange modes as amusing distractions from the 'real' thing. Maybe that's a stupid thing to say, but for me the arcade versions were the real draw - it's these that have got so much praise. Maybe if the 1.01 modes are as good as EOJ says it would be worth it, but having to settle for them is disappointing however you cut it.

No matter what happens, the 360 arcade scoreboards will need to be separated from the PCB. I mean, MMP is missing actual enemies ffs.

[chempop]

I'm going to retract what I said earlier, my first impressions were while I wasn't in a healthy shmup capable state of mind.

I'm having a lot of fun with these games, mainly 1.01 and arrange versions. I did not think I'd enjoy these as much as I am. They look great on my Tate CRT and some of the arrange tunes are sick, I really like being able to choose the music per level, very nice touch.

I do miss the atract demo, initials, and proper title screen. But those are small qualms to have when I'm now able to play two of CAVE's games that I didn't ever think I'd play, and great games they are!

[PsikyoPshumpPshooterP]

no surprise..smh

[StarCreator]

So, has anyone who has the LE opened their soundtrack CD? I'd really like to know if it contains the arrange soundtrack, or if it's just a cut-down original soundtrack.

You are correct. It took first place in a poll held by Cave's Dev Blog. A poll that shocked CAVE with a surprising number of Western respondents.

You got a link to back that up?

I don't know about shocking them, but they got enough emails that Asada posted a blog entry in English about it around when it was first announced.

[bcass]

That just states they got emails. Nothing mentioned there about the survey.

[StarCreator]

That just states they got emails. Nothing mentioned there about the survey.

Digging a little further back, here's the post where the survey results were announced. Nothing conclusive, but he felt the need to announce the results in English even though it hadn't been previously discussed in English... it's hard to tell whether this was more in response to the survey or to people region-free begging though.

[Skykid]

That just states they got emails. Nothing mentioned there about the survey.

Who gives a shit, why do you want cold hard evidence anyway? A vote was cast a decision was made, Guwange came out, been out. Old news.

[exquisite_torture]

I love Feveron, but given that list it's a strange choice for the next XBLA port.

[bcass]

That just states they got emails. Nothing mentioned there about the survey.

Who gives a shit, why do you want cold hard evidence anyway? A vote was cast a decision was made, Guwange came out, been out.

Some people seem to be under the misapprehension that Guwange was voted for by "the general public". It wasn't. It was voted for primarily by the Japanese, since it was a Japanese survey.