Easiest cave game and 1cc

LRa · Post by **LRa** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:10 pm

What's the easiest cave game ?
And which arcade shmup should I 1cc first(so it has to be kinda easy)?

Ramus · Post by **Ramus** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:32 pm

I'm gonna say Progear is the easiest Cave game. Try that one.

Post by **Ghegs** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:35 pm

ESPGaluda seems to have a reputation of being Cave's easiest to clear. Scoring's a whole different beast, though.

LRa · Post by **LRa** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:39 pm

I see, I think I'll go with Progear.
And what about an easy arcade 1cc that's also fun?

Valgar · Post by **Valgar** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:41 pm

ESPGaluda BY FARRRRRRRRR. Progear is hard !~_~

Sly Cherry Chunks · Post by **Sly Cherry Chunks** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:42 pm

LRa wrote:And what about an easy arcade 1cc that's also fun?

Thunderforce AC can be 1CCed with your eyes closed.

EDIT: Im assuming that by 'arcade' you mean 'not Cave'.

sikraiken · Post by **sikraiken** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:43 pm

ESPGaluda is, as Valgar said, BY FAR, the easiest cave game to one credit (and "legitimately" as well, since it doesn't have a loop). Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

Trevor spencer · Post by **Trevor spencer** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:54 pm

espgaluda is quite easy until you get to the cheap ass last boss

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:58 pm

Espgaluda is certainly the easiest one I have played, but unlike some here I don't regard the game as easy simpliciter or too easy. If you don't try to memorize, if you just take things as they come, then the game can get quite hard.

Post by **Icarus** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:03 pm

Espgaluda is easy if you are just playing through for an ALL. If you are going for a high score, then it becomes quite a difficult exercise.

LRa · Post by **LRa** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:06 pm

Mmm, now I'm hesitating between the two again

Anyway by arcade I mean arcade and not console.

Shearie · Post by **Shearie** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:23 pm

Just pick ESPGaluda. The first guy who said Progear is out of his mind.

Ramus · Post by **Ramus** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:33 pm

Shearie wrote:Just pick ESPGaluda. The first guy who said Progear is out of his mind.

Hehe, I just found Progear to not be so difficult. I guess it just depends on the person playing. ESPGaluda is pretty easy as well. Just go with what you might think looks more fun.

Ord · Post by **Ord** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:55 pm

Espgaluda, by a country mile.

LRa · Post by **LRa** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:13 pm

Ok set.

And what about an arcade game in general? which would be easy to 1cc but still good and fun?

oxtsu · Post by **oxtsu** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:29 pm

Arcadia's list of "Easy Shooting" circa 2000:

1)Arbalester (Seta, 1989, tate)
2)1943 (Capcom, 1987, tate)
3)Genshijima (?)
4)Sky Smasher (Nihon System, 1990, tate)
5)Thunder Cross (Konami, 1988, yoko)
6)Area 88 (Capcom, 1989, yoko)
7)Fantasy Zone (Sega, 1985, yoko)
8)Life Force (Konami, 1986, yoko)
9)Sidearms (Capcom, 1986, yoko)
10)Outzone (Toaplan, 1990, tate)

I would go with Area 88.

FMK · Post by **FMK** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:01 pm

How about Mushihime Original Mode? First clears already listed at Hi Score, in just a few days. Same thing happened with ESP. Are they equivalent in difficulty?

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:45 pm

Batsugun Special Version isn't too hard to clear the first loop of, though not everyone considers that a "real" 1CC.

NTSC-J · Post by **NTSC-J** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:58 pm

FMK wrote:How about Mushihime Original Mode? First clears already listed at Hi Score, in just a few days. Same thing happened with ESP. Are they equivalent in difficulty?

Pretty close, although I think Galuda is still easier. The rank in Mushihime is a dog if you no-miss far enough.

Smraedis · Post by **Smraedis** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:14 pm

I found Mushi Original to be easier than ESPG, but then I did finish Mushi with my last ship and no bombs.. but then I did on ESPG too.

Stages 5-1 and 5-2 of Galuda seem the hardest to me, but then stage 3 of Mushi Original is almost on the same level..

Pete · Post by **Pete** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:28 pm

I actually think that Dodonpachi is the easiest 1CC Cave game, simply because it is so generous with bombs.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:42 pm

Yeah, Stage 3 of Mushi blows my ball bag. I hate it -- very annoying. Stage 4 and 5 aren't so bad but getting used to the really fast bullets takes a while. I'm pretty close to the 1CC on original. I will go ahead and say it's easier than ESPGaluda for the simple fact there's very little extra scoring to tempt you to do moronic shit, wherein EPSGaluda, one is always filling the screen with bullets.

Nemo · Post by **Nemo** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:10 pm

Donpachi and Dodonpachi are both easier to clear than Galuda if you're simply going for a 1CC.

gameoverDude · Post by **gameoverDude** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:52 pm

Trevor spencer wrote:espgaluda is quite easy until you get to the cheap ass last boss

Jakou's final attack is just nasty. I could've sworn that Ketsui's Doom was not nearly this bad from what I've seen.

Ketsui may be worth a try. I'll not claim that it's any easier, but the scoring system is more straight forward than that in DDP & DOJ. Shoot something from a reasonably close distance and you can start a chain of 5-boxes.

LRa · Post by **LRa** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:46 pm

Well I think I'll go with 1943.

Darkcomet72 · Post by **Darkcomet72** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:39 am

Ketsui is actually up there for Cave's hardest shmup, with Dodonpachi DaiOuJou.

WarCheese · Post by **WarCheese** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:04 am

Hello all:

I think that 1CC 1st loop for DoDonpachi is not that bad, if you are dedicated. After about 3 months of causal playing (1 game a day), I can get to Stage 6 pretty consistently.

One helpful hint to master DoDonpachi is to play Dai Ou Jou. I can't get far in that game (stage 3), but doing so has helped my DoDonpachi progress.

Cheers.

WarCheese.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:20 am

I've not put much time into DOJ, but I'll say that Ketsui is just as hard, or close to it. The scoring is straight forward and very forgiving, but it promotes really risky play. Even if you're not playing for score, stage 3 gets pretty spicey, and stage 4 is just fucking hard. Stage 5 -- gimme a break!

WarCheese · Post by **WarCheese** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:48 am

Hello all:

Yay! I have just managed to 1cc first loop of DoDonpachi with 26608910 as score. I know the score is no good. Still, it serves as encouragement for those who want to 1cc an "easy" 1cc cave game.

Cheers.

WarCheese

Marc · Post by **Marc** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:30 am

Area 88 on an 'easy' clear list? Shit, haven I missed something? It's been a while, but I remember it being a bitch.