Guwange 360

[system11]

I don't remember it being this difficult, is my only comment to make.

[Zeether]

The sooner the better otherwise we might be waiting forever like the DOJ patch.

This is not a CAVE port though, so it's not relevant.

I am aware 5pb / Aqua Systems botched this. I am just using it as in reference to time as if it ever comes out. Seems to me like the patch is Vaporware for DOJ and the chances of Cave actually fixing Guwange's display aspect ratio in 4:3 are slim at best.

Sup Japhei?

Oops, you're already banned~

[Elixir]

I agree with Japhei, it is certainly in poor form.

But seriously, besides the forced widescreen, the port seems fine. Do all XBLA ports have forced widescreen? I know Bomberman Live does.

[emphatic]

Do all XBLA ports have forced widescreen?

Nope, unless it's a very late addition to the terms of newer titles. I remember Time Pilot being full screen.

[Drachenherz]

Hmm... As I'm rather new here myself, I just cannot keep from wondering what led to banning Dominic Cobb?

I don't mean to flame or something therelike, but I just cannot see what forum-rule he's broken... Maybe a double-account?

I just don't want to make the same mistake, actually I kinda like it here.

[Kron]

The issue isn't forced widescreen but on a CRT via RGB its letterboxed and you're losing 20% of the screen top and bottom which is an utterly bizzare way to display this. It must be unviewable and almost unplayable on a small TV.

[emphatic]

I just don't want to make the same mistake, actually I kinda like it here.

You're doing fine. Just be friendly, non-racist and try not to scam people in the marketplace.

[Square King]

I haven't tried it yet so I'm not familiar with the problem, but I'm sure it's just Cave wanting to pander to the widest 360 audience -- that is, peeps with hi-def TV sets. I'm betting they're banking on the fact that no one with a 360 is running a display under 720p.

And it could be some type of fuckery from MS.

[Drachenherz]

I just don't want to make the same mistake, actually I kinda like it here.

You're doing fine. Just be friendly, non-racist and try not to scam people in the marketplace.

Ow sh*t, you just forbade me my favourite past-times...

Hehe, no, of course j/k. Yeah, I think I'll do fine here. It just feels good being among fellow freaks.

[phrenzee]

I don't remember it being this difficult, is my only comment to make.

Funny, my first thought was the exact opposite. I think I got further than I ever have on my first go.
Everything's back to normal now, though... Getting a royal beating

[StarCreator]

Hmm... As I'm rather new here myself, I just cannot keep from wondering what led to banning Dominic Cobb?

I don't mean to flame or something therelike, but I just cannot see what forum-rule he's broken... Maybe a double-account?

I just don't want to make the same mistake, actually I kinda like it here.

It's a known alias for a user that was banned in the past, and keeps coming back under new aliases periodically. He's banned across a large variety of game-related forums.

[Drachenherz]

Hmm... As I'm rather new here myself, I just cannot keep from wondering what led to banning Dominic Cobb?

I don't mean to flame or something therelike, but I just cannot see what forum-rule he's broken... Maybe a double-account?

I just don't want to make the same mistake, actually I kinda like it here.

It's a known alias for a user that was banned in the past, and keeps coming back under new aliases periodically. He's banned across a large variety of game-related forums.

Thanks for the info. No BTT: Only 2:30 h left till I get to play Guwange! *yay*

[dan76]

I'm not sure I'm going to download this - I've played it a bit on mame and unless the arrange modes are really good I'll pass. The forced 16:9 is awful though (uk snes anyone), and yeah, I'd expect DFK to be the same...

Just to check to those who have both, is it the same as Deathsmiles 2 - In yoko, with a 4:3 CRT, is there no way of getting rid of the black bars at the top and bottom? Have you tried putting the xbox into 16:9 mode, as this usually stretches the picture tall and should get rid of the black borders (this didn't work on DS2 though).

[Zeron]

Man was I dissapointed when I loaded it up and saw those ugly blackborders which just brings me back to the glorious PAL 50hz days

[njiska]

Do all XBLA ports have forced widescreen?

Nope, unless it's a very late addition to the terms of newer titles. I remember Time Pilot being full screen.

I regularly play Trigger Heart in tate on my Arcade monitor so this is definitely not the case. Time to email bomb Cave-world. They seem to at least properly convey complaint to the cave team.

[bcass]

I guess to show up in my friendslist and in the world-wide ranking, silver should be enough, shouldn't it?

You don't need a Gold sub to participate in the Leaderboards.

[Jet Black]

Emph, you can adjust the height/width on your MS9 so there no real issue.

Depends on the monitor. Even with use of the height/width pots I can't get fullscreen on my 4:3 crt.

[TVG]

While I usually buy a lot of arcade games I never play out of princinple, like final fight etc, this is a little too much fuckery to waste money on. I have a quite big CRT I can't tate and it looks like total shit, completely unplayable.

Not only that, but "showing support" looks like a pointless exercise. The game isn't mentionned anywhere on the dashboard news, the preview artwork is ass, the description is a badly translated boring mess (at least in french), there's no screenshots, and basically no incentive to download the game whatsoever for anyone.

This is the first time I see Cave fuck up this bad. No big deal though, I never liked Guwange anyway. I'll probably hurt the chances of future arcade ports too. Ah well, fuck videogames.

[drunkninja24]

I'm not sure I'm going to download this - I've played it a bit on mame and unless the arrange modes are really good I'll pass. The forced 16:9 is awful though (uk snes anyone), and yeah, I'd expect DFK to be the same...

Just to check to those who have both, is it the same as Deathsmiles 2 - In yoko, with a 4:3 CRT, is there no way of getting rid of the black bars at the top and bottom? Have you tried putting the xbox into 16:9 mode, as this usually stretches the picture tall and should get rid of the black borders (this didn't work on DS2 though).

No go, just tried it.

Not a humungous deal to me, but of course, I have a tated LCD anyway. Sucks for people still rocking CRTs though. I might try using my HD Box Pro to downscale the 720p image to 480p later and see how it looks, that's the only way I could see it working fullscreen on a 4:3.

[Krondelo]

While I usually buy a lot of arcade games I never play out of princinple, like final fight etc, this is a little too much fuckery to waste money on. I have a quite big CRT I can't tate and it looks like total shit, completely unplayable.

Not only that, but "showing support" looks like a pointless exercise. The game isn't mentionned anywhere on the dashboard news, the preview artwork is ass, the description is a badly translated boring mess (at least in french), there's no screenshots, and basically no incentive to download the game whatsoever for anyone.

This is the first time I see Cave fuck up this bad. No big deal though, I never liked Guwange anyway. I'll probably hurt the chances of future arcade ports too. Ah well, fuck videogames.

Yeah I don't think I will be buying this, and I love wasting money on XBLA. I will probably buy it if it goes on sale which is doubtful. But thats okay because I too don't care much for Guwange.

[Square King]

While I usually buy a lot of arcade games I never play out of princinple, like final fight etc, this is a little too much fuckery to waste money on. I have a quite big CRT I can't tate and it looks like total shit, completely unplayable.

Not only that, but "showing support" looks like a pointless exercise. The game isn't mentionned anywhere on the dashboard news, the preview artwork is ass, the description is a badly translated boring mess (at least in french), there's no screenshots, and basically no incentive to download the game whatsoever for anyone.

This is the first time I see Cave fuck up this bad. No big deal though, I never liked Guwange anyway. I'll probably hurt the chances of future arcade ports too. Ah well, fuck videogames.

sounds like someone needs a petite sieste

[bcass]

The game isn't mentionned anywhere on the dashboard news

There's always a delay between XBLA games being released and (eventually) being shown on the front of the dash. It'll appear eventually.

[system11]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RySQ6wAPY7k

I made a small video showing my pathetic attempt at level 1.

[Enemy]

I have only checked out the demo of this but is there something wrong with the slowdown ? it seems a bit choppy (check out level 1 boss)

problem with having to emulate the slowdown or is it just me ?

[emphatic]

I'm sure it's just Cave wanting to pander to the widest 360 audience -- that is, peeps with hi-def TV sets. I'm betting they're banking on the fact that no one with a 360 is running a display under 720p.

You're kidding, right? Check out DeathSmiles, ESPGALUDA II or Futari. Do any of these games' GUI display crappy on a 16:9 set. No. Do they display crappy on a 4:3. No. There is no reason whatsoever to force a port of a 4:3 arcade title to 16:9 unless CAVE get paid money from flat screen TV manufacturers under the table.

I have only checked out the demo of this but is there something wrong with the slowdown ? it seems a bit choppy (check out level 1 boss)

problem with having to emulate the slowdown or is it just me ?

Compared to the real PCB or MAME?

[bcass]

We need to protest about this retarded widescreen setup on their English Twitter site. Is it possible to upload/download replays? It's not evident from the trial. Very unlikely I'll be buying this unless they sort the stupid borders out.

[Square King]

There is no reason whatsoever to force a port of a 4:3 arcade title to 16:9 unless CAVE get paid money from flat screen TV manufacturers under the table.

Wouldn't put it past them.

Also, I don't think it's fair to compare the options in a full-priced release to an XBLA release. Maybe they felt it wasn't worth the extra effort for a $10 release. Who knows.

[charlie chong]

will the screen settings be fine for tate on a crt?? that is all i need to know. i've never hooked up my egg boks to the internet yet but i'm gonna grab some points for this and mushi futari black label. if the screen settings wont fill up the screen on tate i wont bother

[brentsg]

Being forced to 16:9 is terrible. Not being able to zoom the playfield to full screen while using 16:9 is also terrible. Not being able to set the background to automatically change, rather than remain static all the time sucks as well, especially for us plasma owners.

Botched release by Cave for sure. These are pretty basic features, especially the first 2.

[emphatic]

Replays are working fine in the full game.

This is what my monitor can display with full stretch + maxed out chassis remote controls without touching the controls on the chassis (I really don't want to):



I've added red borders to the (rather crappy) picture so you can see how much screen real estate is unused.

And a question to Elixir or whoever got this with Japanese Live! points: Does the Japanese XBLA display the original Logo on the title screen, or this new GUWANGE text? I tried playing my EU bought release using my Japanese account, but I don't get the original logo anyway.