Time Crisis Razing Storm (Big 3 Gun Shooting) PS3 Move

[brentsg]

Despite there not really being anything I wanted at launch, I bought a move anyways.

I bought one too, just for Time Crisis.

But sadly, the Frisbee golf is my new guilty pleasure.

[Smraedis]

UK release date now 5th November only one week away for the US though, so I'd like impressions!

[gameoverDude]

That time is coming closer now. I've got this preordered with Amazon, so I guess I'll likely have mine by the Friday of that week. Impressions will be coming up soon after. In the meantime, I've been using the demo for some practice with the Move controller (I do have better luck with the arcade gun at the moment, but I'm sure I'll get the hang of this pretty soon).

Should Namco ever bring out a special Move shell of their own (namely, one that would look like the arcade Razing Storm gun- even without the arcade's heavy recoil unit), I'm on it.

[Phellan Wolf]

Is the Time Crisis 4 included in the compilation the same game with the same extras as the stand alone one???

[D]

Is the Time Crisis 4 included in the compilation the same game with the same extras as the stand alone one???

I believe it is just the arcade version, without the stand alone extra´s
some new video´s
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_t ... s=20&uni=3

anyway I am now leaning more toward getting the US version because I am afraid the Japanese version will be Japanese only and no English text! which you really need for this game....it seems....

[antares]

anyway I am now leaning more toward getting the US version because I am afraid the Japanese version will be Japanese only and no English text! which you really need for this game....it seems....

Chances are high that the english version will also be on the disc.

I have the jp version of TC4 and it has the english version on the disc too. Also I know of many other jp PS3 games that have the international versions on the disc.

[Phellan Wolf]

Is the extra content in the stand alone TC4 worth?? I mean if you consider buying this 3on1, would you buy also the stand alone TC4 just for the extras??
Now that the games is cheap I was considering to buy it but I eanted to be sure that the compilation do or don't iclude the extras.

[Cthulhu]

anyway I am now leaning more toward getting the US version because I am afraid the Japanese version will be Japanese only and no English text! which you really need for this game....it seems....

You need text for a light gun game? Huh?

[Smraedis]

DeadStorm Pirates has Quick Time Events, but they are mostly "Turn Left" and "Turn Right", so it shouldn't be too hard to learn.
Can't be any more of a pain than the Japanese Point Blank 2 stage where it says "shoot red", "shoot white", "don't shoot red" and "don't shoot white", the colours are quite easy to understand, but the difference between shoot and don't shoot in the voice samples is way too easy to get wrong.

The game will most likely have a English version too, and the Europe release is soon now anyway.

[D]

Unboxing US version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=988oDyqJtyk

3 pages of gamefaqs experiences
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/997880-t ... m/56790843

[antares]

Anyone here has it and played it with the GCon 3?

I've heard that it is almost unplayable with the Move Controller because the Move "de-calibrates" itself after a short time and therefore it is not possible to play with the crosshair turned off.
Would be interesting to know if this is only a problem with the Move or the game itself.

Also people are bashing about the games graphics but I'm a bit sceptical about this as people generally bash about every game as long as it doesn't look like GOW3 or some other blockbuster title.

[dcharlie]

got the Japanese version (Japanese text throughout, English voices are selectable)

Only played briefly and , yeah, after calibration i thought "wow, this really is quite precise" ... very quickly in game i can see the cursor is way off :/

Graphically it's largely bog standard, not a disaster. The music is annoying as hell though.

So far, so meh on the whole move thing - hope the calibration thing is only for this game.

[Fudoh]

Got this today and even got it running after minutes after minutes with a system update and the 3.5gig installation for Deadstorm Pirates. Of course I tried Deadstorm Pirates first and it's great fun. Colorful arcade action at it's best.

After that I tried TC:RS for the first time and I could already kill some Namco exec for not allowing me to use the move controller in one hand for shooting (with the gun attachment) and the navigation controller in the other hand for reloading. It could have been real fun this way, but no, someone had to screw up. For some reason TC:RS sees the navigation controller as an additional player instead of mapping the buttons to Player 1.

I wouldn't mind using the move controller for both actions (shooting and reloading), but with the gun attachment, there's no way one can use the buttons on top of the controller. They just can't be reached with the hand on the trigger... Using the other hand to press the buttons on top of the move controller seems way off and just feels bad. What a shame...

[gameoverDude]

Got this today and even got it running after minutes after minutes with a system update and the 3.5gig installation for Deadstorm Pirates. Of course I tried Deadstorm Pirates first and it's great fun. Colorful arcade action at it's best.

After that I tried TC:RS for the first time and I could already kill some Namco exec for not allowing me to use the move controller in one hand for shooting (with the gun attachment) and the navigation controller in the other hand for reloading. It could have been real fun this way, but no, someone had to screw up. For some reason TC:RS sees the navigation controller as an additional player instead of mapping the buttons to Player 1.

I wouldn't mind using the move controller for both actions (shooting and reloading), but with the gun attachment, there's no way one can use the buttons on top of the controller. They just can't be reached with the hand on the trigger... Using the other hand to press the buttons on top of the move controller seems way off and just feels bad. What a shame...

That's odd. I sure hope Namco will have a patch later- I really wanted to be able to use a DDR mat for the pedal. Having to reach on top of the gun seems awkward. We now need a 3rd party pedal that somehow functions as one of the Move buttons. Holding a MG attachment will be kind of funky on the PS3- esp. when I have my right hand holding the gun up front when playing on the arcade version.

[D]

http://kotaku.com/5668674/review-time-c ... zing-storm

[Phellan Wolf]

Hey Fudoh could now that you have the game could you take a look at TC 4. I know that someon has already stated that is only the arcade port but now that the game is out and that you0ve played it I wanted to know if it really is the arcade or it has all the extras that has the Guncon 3 version.

[gameoverDude]

Hey Fudoh could now that you have the game could you take a look at TC 4. I know that someon has already stated that is only the arcade port but now that the game is out and that you0ve played it I wanted to know if it really is the arcade or it has all the extras that has the Guncon 3 version.

TC4 is simply the arcade mode from the PS3 release, with none of the extras.
So far I've found the GC3 easier to use than the Move- especially when you can use A1/A2 as the reload button (I set the reload button behavior to "release" instead of "press")..
It seems that the difficulty of RS Arcade Normal setting is upped a tad from the arcade's default. For a quick example, take the first Raptor in stage 1. In the arcade version it'll usually just fire a missile after getting on the wall. In the PS3 version, it has always fired a gunshot before the missile- this does happen on the arcade version, however rarely.

EDIT: Actually, the Move works decently- now that the problems I had were fixed with an XMB Motion Controller Calibration. Now the aim is more accurate.

[Cthulhu]

I haven't had any real trouble with the move controls - I did have to calibrate it a few times to get the sensitivity in the corners of the screen to my liking, but once I have it set, things are fine. I've never had any "decalibration" or anything like that in this or any other move game.

Overall? The games are fun and pretty much what I was expecting.

[Smraedis]

TC4 is simply the arcade mode from the PS3 release, with none of the extras.

*dies*
I'm used to playing Razing Storm one higher than normal anyway, but is the game the same every other way?

[gameoverDude]

TC4 is simply the arcade mode from the PS3 release, with none of the extras.

*dies*
I'm used to playing Razing Storm one higher than normal anyway, but is the game the same every other way?

In Stage 1's clothing shop I didn't seem to be able to tag the hanging light fixture for some reason (I would do that in the arcade to hold combo, but on PS3 I found something else nearby). It is identical in all other ways, however. The game's shield button behavior is set to "press" by default but it can be changed back to "release".

I gave Ranking mode a try tonight, and got a 1CC score of 3189270, which is about 300K below my score at Dave & Buster's. My max combo for this run was 742, and the time was 15'53"40. Currently this record stands in 7th place. MAT@DGZ is currently in 1st. He has about 3.8M for now but will probably bump that up to match his arcade score (that 4M one he's got on Youtube) soon.

Right after that I tried the FPS story mode. It's not bad, but there is a fairly steep learning curve. Some of the other weapons you find in this are the Balero cannon (level 1's power is weak, but you can charge it up to a max of level 3 for decent damage) and the Skewer (If you've tried the Penetrator or Hammerhead from F.E.A.R., you'll like this one- it's got a zoom feature also). I pinned an enemy soldier onto a windmill using the Skewer and LOLed at seeing him get taken for a ride. HACS units & Raptors will appear in story mode. In this case the Raptors can take you out in 1 hit by jumping on you- be careful with them. Give them a few Level 3 Balero rounds.

[Smraedis]

In Stage 1's clothing shop I didn't seem to be able to tag the hanging light fixture for some reason (I would do that in the arcade to hold combo, but on PS3 I found something else nearby). It is identical in all other ways, however. The game's shield button behavior is set to "press" by default but it can be changed back to "release".

Okay, that doesn't sound too bad, I can usually catch the light when the camera pans, I wonder what it will be like on this version.
I use a 4:3 tv normally, I wonder what the game would be like on one too.

I gave Ranking mode a try tonight, and got a 1CC score of 3189270, which is about 300K below my score at Dave & Buster's. My max combo for this run was 742, and the time was 15'53"40. Currently this record stands in 7th place. MAT@DGZ is currently in 1st. He has about 3.8M for now but will probably bump that up to match his arcade score (that 4M one he's got on Youtube) soon.

Ahh hmm, its like PS3 TC4 all over again
No surprise with a high score from MAT-DGZ, I'd like to get to 4 million too, I don't care how long it takes me

[gameoverDude]

Time Crisis 4 doesn't really change much from the original PS3 port's arcade mode. That means NO online co-op, no dual PS3 link play, no fixes to the scoring differences, and some slowdown in 720p mode (erg!). If you use the Move for TC4, there will be a reticle but I'm not aware of a means to turn that off. If you're playing TC4, temporarily disable all res modes higher than 480p. The standalone TC4 is worth buying for the Crisis Missions.

I've gotten used to pressing/releasing the Move button as a pedal. I'll have my right hand cupped around the front of the gun, just touching the Move orb. That way it's not too far to reach onto the top.

Deadstorm Pirates is awesome. This compilation was surely worth at least the $48 I paid for it. The "Namco Shooting Collection" blurb on the package for the US is a good thing IMO- I can't wait to see what a Namco Shooting Collection Vol. 2 would contain.

Other companies were apparently shy about supporting the Guncon 3 for some reason. Hopefully we'll see Taito bring over some of their new gun games (Panic Museum, EA Death Parade, etc.) for the Move alongside a Taito Memories gun game collection.

[Smraedis]

IGN gave it 4.0
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/113/1130393p1.html

No increasing frothing demand for this great game

[gameoverDude]

IGN gave it 4.0
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/113/1130393p1.html

No increasing frothing demand for this great game

IGN can walk the plank for that one. How can they say these three games are not "well-designed"? And so what if the games don't take an hour to beat? Time Crisis 4 is "shockingly difficult"? Ryan Clements must be a lousy game player or this must be his first time playing TC4. What an IGNorant review.

I finished the Story Mode last night. You'll eventually cross paths with Alpha Squad. Basically it starts sometime before the arcade storyline with Guerra in his prison cell moments before being broken out, and you'll even go to the Girasol Factory at some point. Expect a few surprises.

[UnscathedFlyingObject]

I completely stopped caring about what IGN has to say after the horrible God Hand review.

[njiska]

I completely stopped caring about what IGN has to say after the horrible God Hand review.

I love how that review has become the divine example of IGN's failing.

[Phellan Wolf]

I don't understand why people care so much about the reviews made by the media, specially by ign and similars. It is true that those reviews can give you an idea on how's the game but the best way to know if you like a game it is to play it. Damn, just rent it for a few days and try it, and then you 'll realiza if it's the kind of game you were looking for.
Besides this I am a huge gun shooting game fan and I will be picking this one up next week. I really hope that Sega copy Namco's release and launch a compilation of their latest gun games HotD4 and Virtua Cop 4.

[antares]

I ordered mine yesterday (just the regular edition, will be playing with my GCon 3).

And yes, who the hell cares about reviews? When was the last time a lightgun shooter got a good review? Must have been HOTD 2 on the Dreamcast. Since then it's been going downhill, I'm glad these games still get released from time to time even when 99% of all gamers don't care about them.

[gameoverDude]

My latest RS Arcade mode record:

Score: 3459770
Max Hit Combo: 845
Time 14'59"44
All 10 dogtags, NO DAMAGE, All Allies saved (6 lives remain at Game Clear- Ranking mode gives you 3 lives/Normal for its settings - you cannot raise the difficulty unless you use Free Play)

Sure gotta try for that 4M someday. Still in 7th but not that far from 6th.
This would be my first ever 1LC of Razing Storm. Sadly there's no special trophy for a 1LC or for having a full bar after Emergency Mission. Damn.

Anyway for a quick recap of RS AM trophies:

Arcade Master - Just beat Razing Storm arcade mode in Ranking play.
No Rest for the Wicked - Get a combo of 500 or higher.
Rack 'em Up - Game clear with over 3M pts.
Unstoppable - One credit clear.

[Smraedis]

Nice score gameoverDude! Is that a western best if you can tell?
I hope you go for a higher score