Next Cave iPhone port is Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu

[Strider77]

I keep finding more and more reasons to wish this forum had a proper ignore feature.

It does.... just skip over the parts you don't like. Like a newspaper or magazine; so spoiled with the digital age. I'm done anyways, I'll just hate on it over at cave-stg if the need strikes, everyone is on the same page there.

[Lusche]

400$ ipod or 1000$ phone

Where are you located?

Prison?

Even with a exorbitant fees schedule on your plan, phones aren't nearly that expensive. Not even to buy outright without a plan.

germany ... and no its that expensive here ... if you life in the uk or elsewhere it is cheaper. but thats not the point ...

people bitching about games which arent region free and they cant play it because they dont have money for an import console but are happy that they release the games on an ipod/iphone which they own and thats why they are able to enjoy this ...
but how much is nowadays a fat xbox arcade after the slim release ? 150$ msrp ?

but enough bitching from me. i hope the game succeed and that there will be more games on apple mobile devices so that those who are playing it will be happy.
but dont forget the xbox users which werent so stingy and buying an REALLY expensive import console instead of a VERY cheap apple device.
i wont forgive cave if they announce that there wont be a dfk console release ... would love to see it on the 360 ... but i dont care if they will release on 720 or ps4, just release it !

[Shelcoof]

I'm on my knees praying for an 360 port of this game.

[Jockel]

I'm on my knees praying for an 360 port of this game.

If not, you can still an hero.

[brentsg]

people bitching about games which arent region free and they cant play it because they dont have money for an import console but are happy that they release the games on an ipod/iphone which they own and thats why they are able to enjoy this ...
but how much is nowadays a fat xbox arcade after the slim release ? 150$ msrp ?

A lot of people actually have real jobs and a genuine need for some kind of smartphone. I know without mine I'd be tethered to my desk 24x7.

Besides, it's not just $200 for an Xbox. My importer sells the Arcade packs at $300+ and the new slim for $425. Then you need the actual games, which are $70-80 each. None of this is impulse-buy material. And no, I'm not buying a used terribly-unreliable-console from another region.

[bcass]

The iPhone is horrendously over-priced though. You can get a decent smartphone for considerably less.

[Ed Oscuro]

Thanks for saying it so I didn't have to, brentsg.

The iPhone is horrendously over-priced though. You can get a decent smartphone for considerably less.

And many of the cheaper ones have incompatible OSes (even within the same series or manufacturer), any given device doesn't have the same size userbase (not to mention users that would be interested in gaming - even before the iPhone people were gaming on their iPods; I know a lot of people bitch about Apple's development policies (i.e. arbitrarily kicking out high quality C64 emulators and other things) but they have gotten more applications behind their device, and so a lot more inertia), and don't have their own section on 1up (or whatever the site is that does that).

Personally I might rather have a Droid, BlackBerry, or Palm OS device, because I don't really care to reward Apple for being control freaks, but I might shed some tears privately as I think that I will never play Enviro-Bear 2010, or any of the other low-cost programs for the iPhone that don't require sim or SDHC cards or expensive swap-in modules that nobody develops anything good for anyway.

[bcass]

Well, Android is currently outselling iPhone, so it's not all going Apple's way. With a little more consumer-awareness, the iPhone could well find itself the minority device in a year or so time.

Anyway, the point is that you can spend a hell of a lot less and get most of the same functionality. And probably something made a hell of a lot better and will last a hell of a lot longer too.

[brentsg]

The iPhone is horrendously over-priced though. You can get a decent smartphone for considerably less.

I guess it's all relative. I certainly get a lot of value out of mine. And seriously, my contract was up. I sold my 2 year old iPhone for ~$200. My out of pocket expense for the new model is $200. Sure, I'm under contract again due to the subsidy but that's meaningless. I've had the same carrier for like 10 years anyways and it's not like they cut my rate after my subsidy period is over.

Droid should keep outselling iPhone if you have carriers doing "buy 1 get 1 free" and stuff like that. Plus from what I understand the Droid phones aren't all equal/compatible. But also note that the recent sales numbers captured a sales period where any iPhone customer "in the know" was waiting for the new model to be released.

I don't think we're going to see a winner in the smartphone business and we should all consider that a good thing. As long as consumers have 3 or so solid choices all with a deep catalog of apps everyone will be in good shape. I kind of see it shaping up like the console "wars" where you have a small handful of established options.

[brentsg]

And probably something made a hell of a lot better and will last a hell of a lot longer too.

Heh now you're just pulling things out of your ass and throwing them out there.

[bcass]

Nah. Every single person I know who owns an iPod has had trouble with them at some point. Apples kit isn't especially well made.

[captpain]

Let's argue about Apple products, y'all!!!!! YEEEEEEEE HAWWWWWWWW

[Phellan Wolf]

Let's argue about Apple products, y'all!!!!! YEEEEEEEE HAWWWWWWWW

You know, don't be an early adopter of their products or you will suffer. Theri products don't start to be reliable till their 3rd gen or so, but hey, they are kinda cool and are apple...

[Strider77]

The iPhone is horrendously over-priced though. You can get a decent smartphone for considerably less.

I agree..... see, we can agree at times and be on the same page.

I have friends that have one and most of the ones that do have the shittiest reception on it. That changes from region to region I'm sure but everyone has heard the jokes about it "doing everything but be a good phone".

A lot of people actually have real jobs and a genuine need for some kind of smartphone

Believe it or not you can have a real job and not use one also... (I never ran into imaginary jobs though, might have to look into that). A lot of folks use a real computer (laptop) for their real job and manage. I know I couldn't manage stock or inventory along with receiving orders without a real computer. Then a regular phone does a fine job of live conversation needs.

I have a friend who works at GSK in their medical research department (makes about 40.00 an hour) and doesn't use his iphone for any needs there other than live conversations. I have heard him bitch about it more than anything else.

[brentsg]

Ok let me try this again.

Some people are required to carry a smartphone for work. This is truth.

If you are in this position, you might as well carry one that does some fun things too. If I'm going to pay the flat rate for the data plan then I might as well be able to argue on forums or play some Cave games while I'm waiting to get my oil changed.

[chempop]

So no release date yet? I'm going to assume it's this week...

[Square King]

The ESP2 trial keeps crashing on my 3GS. It's worked fine for months.

[Jockel]

The ESP2 trial keeps crashing on my 3GS. It's worked fine for months.

Try disabling openfeint or reinstalling the game.

[ROBBMAC]

Confirmed at CaveFest...

More Shmups For Xbox 360
Cave delivers DoDonPachi Resurrection, Muchi Muchi Pork and other oddly named arcade titles.
August 16, 2010

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/111/1112880p1.html

[mesh control]

IGN lol

also: http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... &start=180

We know.

[gs68]

most notably, a beverage labeled as being the "extremely dark urine" of Death Smiles character Windia.

I have a feeling that this is just IGN dismissive of anything from Japan that they can't figure out so they made that shit up.

[Octopod]

Windia apparently needs to drink more fluids.

[Cthulhu]

Let's argue about Apple products, y'all!!!!! YEEEEEEEE HAWWWWWWWW

I like my MacBook Pro but I hate their Time Capsules, mine bit the dust after less than 2 years. My iPhone is a gen 1 and won't play any of the more recent games (at all or worth a damn) so I guess I can't really say anything on-topic.

Oh wait, yes I can. I refuse to buy a game like this on a platform where the controls are inherently imprecise.

[drunkninja24]

Let's argue about Apple products, y'all!!!!! YEEEEEEEE HAWWWWWWWW

I like my MacBook Pro but I hate their Time Capsules, mine bit the dust after less than 2 years. My iPhone is a gen 1 and won't play any of the more recent games (at all or worth a damn) so I guess I can't really say anything on-topic.

Oh wait, yes I can. I refuse to buy a game like this on a platform where the controls are inherently imprecise.

I would beg to differ on the controls argument. Have you ever actually played Esp2 on iPhone? I was skeptical at first, but it works really well and is actually pretty damn precise. Maybe not quite as much as more traditional controls, but it works damn well.

[gs68]

I would totally get an iPad mainly for Cave shooters among other things, except I feel like the moment I buy one, Apple's gonna announce a 2nd-gen version and render the 1st-gen one useless. So even if I did have the money, I'd rather save up and wait.

[brentsg]

I would totally get an iPad mainly for Cave shooters among other things, except I feel like the moment I buy one, Apple's gonna announce a 2nd-gen version and render the 1st-gen one useless. So even if I did have the money, I'd rather save up and wait.

Since Cave mentioned that RAM might be an issue, I'd wait until they bumped it to 512MB just in case they do some ports with improved graphics (vs. the phone version). It appears that the iPad is a hit in Japan.

[brentsg]

Let's argue about Apple products, y'all!!!!! YEEEEEEEE HAWWWWWWWW

I like my MacBook Pro but I hate their Time Capsules

I think they did a Time Capsule recall so you should check into that.

[Phellan Wolf]

I would totally get an iPad mainly for Cave shooters among other things, except I feel like the moment I buy one, Apple's gonna announce a 2nd-gen version and render the 1st-gen one useless. So even if I did have the money, I'd rather save up and wait.

1st gen Apple products are crap and a waste of money since the final user is a beta tester of the product. I think that till their 3rd gen of Ipad it won't be worth.

[brentsg]

I would totally get an iPad mainly for Cave shooters among other things, except I feel like the moment I buy one, Apple's gonna announce a 2nd-gen version and render the 1st-gen one useless. So even if I did have the money, I'd rather save up and wait.

1st gen Apple products are crap and a waste of money since the final user is a beta tester of the product. I think that till their 3rd gen of Ipad it won't be worth.

The only bug that's been reported with the iPad was related to wireless connectivity and it was fixed with an OS update, so that isn't really accurate here. The iPad is an extension of the iPod Touch/iPhone.. with the screen technology from their Macbook Pro line. Other than physical size there's really nothing new here.

[subcons]

I would beg to differ on the controls argument. Have you ever actually played Esp2 on iPhone? I was skeptical at first, but it works really well and is actually pretty damn precise. Maybe not quite as much as more traditional controls, but it works damn well.

This.

Anyone that says the controls aren't precise on Esp2, I just immediately assume that said person hasn't actually played the game themselves. It's a fair argument with touch games, but it just isn't the case with what Cave has done with their ports. They've done an excellent job on the controls.