XBOX 360 Displaying Problem!!!

[peace4myheart]

I am not very well versed in electronics so please pardon my ignorance. I wanted to get some scanlines for my XBOX 360 games so I thought if I buy an audio authority vga to component converter and display it on standard Sony CRT TV, which displays in 480i, then i would get the intended result. When I connected the XBOX 360, with display set at 480X640, to the TV with Deathsmiles, the picture is a bit scrambled and is split into two, with the left side on the right and the right side on the left and a gap in the middle of the screen. As far as I can tell, the picture for Deathsmiles does have scanlines and are very good.

So my question is this. What is causing the picture to split like that??? Is it because the 360 outputs everything in progressive scan and bc my TV only accepts 480i input, the result is the scrambled picture??? If that is the case, then is there a solution to this that is cheap and easy. I heard of the extron emotia but I really don't know if it will help in this situation. I know it de-interlaces the picture but I don't really know what that actually means. All i know is that it gives scanlines, beautiful scanlines on HDTV and computer monitor when used with an XRGB. =P However, I am using an older CRT TV with component input so it's different. Anyway, I need to know before investing 100+ dollars to buy an emotia, which is quite a lot of money to me. All this in the name of scanlines.

I also have another question. I have an NEC professional monitor that is capable of low resolution display but don't know how to use the 5-BNC input. It works fine with the VGA input but when I connect my XBOX 360 into my XRGB-2+ as a pass through and output that with a VGA to 5-BNC cable to the monitor, there is no picture. I did that with my HP A7217A monitor, and it works fine. What am I doing wrong and what do I need to do to make it work on the NEC monitor. Again, will an extron emotia save the day in this situation??? Thanx.

[Fudoh]

So my question is this. What is causing the picture to split like that???

your're sending 480p, when your TV expects 480i. You should stop doing that as your TV's electronics might get damaged.

audio authority vga to component converter

what you bought is not a converter, but a transcoder. Meaning: the resolution and frequency stays unchanged, just the color space gets "transcoded".

I heard of the extron emotia but I really don't know if it will help in this situation

It does. You can do this:

XBox via VGA -> Emotia via RGBs/Scart -> Scart to YUV transcoder -> Your TV. Gives you native 240p with native scanlines.

Again, will an extron emotia save the day in this situation??? Thanx.

depends on the mimimum scan frequency of your monitor, is it 31khz or 15khz ?

[antron]

if your sony CRT looses scanlines like mine does just connect with component in 480i.

[peace4myheart]

FUDOH - Thanx for the reply. As always, you are very helpful. I did read your guide on scanlines. However, I just couldn't understand all of it. BTW, the NEC monitor is capable of 15khz. It's the 29" NEC Multisync XM2950. Perhaps the 5-BNC is only for 15khz signal???

May I ask that since the emotia outputs 240p, how is it possible for my TV to display anything if it is 480i. I thought a TV needs to be capable of displaying progessive scan to be able to receive anything progressive.

ANTRON - How is it possible for a TV to lose scanlines when the TV has it built in???

[antron]

May I ask that since the emotia outputs 240p, how is it possible for my TV to display anything if it is 480i. I thought a TV needs to be capable of displaying progessive scan to be able to receive anything progressive.

ANTRON - How is it possible for a TV to lose scanlines when the TV has it built in???

just think of 240p as a 480i signal with every other line black

and my Sony trinitron must be doing some heavy filtering, or has a strange mask, because scanlines never show up (but flicker is gone when the input signal is 240p)

[Fudoh]

Perhaps the 5-BNC is only for 15khz signal???

No, I have the same monitor (stored away) and it's fine for both types of signal.

I'm not sure about your cabling: if you connect your 360 into the XRGB-2+ (via component or RGBs) then picture gets upscaled to 31khz. You cannot pass through the very same signal. VGA output from the 360 should be fine. Did you try to exchange the horizontal and vertical sync lines ?

[peace4myheart]

"No, I have the same monitor (stored away) and it's fine for both types of signal.

I'm not sure about your cabling: if you connect your 360 into the XRGB-2+ (via component or RGBs) then picture gets upscaled to 31khz. You cannot pass through the very same signal. VGA output from the 360 should be fine. Did you try to exchange the horizontal and vertical sync lines ?"

If it is fine with both signal, then it wouldn't matter if the picture is upscaled by the XRGB-2+ or not right??? I am using a VGA cable as a pass through and I am pretty sure it is not 15khz. Maybe there is something wrong with the monitor connection as it cannot be the cable. Anyway, what is the purpose for exchanging the hori and vert sync lines and how do you do it??? I can't find a switch to do that anywhere in the front or back of the monitor. I just see the "75 ohm" and "high" switch.

[Fudoh]

you make my head ache - at least a little

I mean: VGA source, VGA cable, VGA monitor - does it get anymore straight forward ?

bottom line: with a 360, a VGA cable and a NEC XM29 monitor you don't need the XRGB. Just makes the picture worse (native VGA >> upscaled RGBs). Most non working VGA-BNC connections are caused by a mismatch of the two sync cables - due to non standard coloring by the cable's manufacturers. If you're using a SubD15 to 5xBNC connection, try exchanging the H/V Sync lines and see if anything happens. The 5-BNC input on the XM2950 is compatible with standard 31kz RGBHV signals, but sure about 15khz signals, or least the neccessary sync configuration for those signals.

What I don't get from your current cabling, do you have two 360s connected to the XRGB (one via VGA passthrough, one via RGBs), or do you switch between the VGA and a RGBs cable ??

[Endymion]

What happens if you connect the 360 VGA cable directly to the monitor? The big question mark on our minds is why you even want the XRGB in that equation.