World Cup 2010

[JAPJAC]

Sure it does. You're a nazi, I rape and pillage and JAPJAC eats disgusting food while he tries to screw the ugliest women known to man.

The Sarnie.
Sunday Roast Beef Dinner.
Christmas Dinner (Copied by the North Americans as 'Thanks Giving Dinner' when they annually celebrate the English/Plymouth).
Cottage Pie.
Fish and Chips.
The Full English Breakfast.
Curried Chips.
Gammon and Chips.
British Rubys.
Bangers and Mash.
Beans on Toast.
Toad in the Hole.
Ploughman's Lunch
The Cornish Pasty.
Branston Pickle.
English Musturd.
Marmite.
HP Sauce.
Piccalilli.
Walkers Crisps.
Pork Stratchings.
Ice Cream.
Ambrosia Creamed Rice.
Strawberrys and Cream.
Spotted Dick.
Scones.
Crumpets.
Scotch Eggs (Invented in England).
Cadbury's Chocolate.
The English Cuppa.
English Ale/Beer/Stout/Cider.
Gin & Tonic.
etc.

Vs

Reindeer.

That's some of the fittest grub and drink in the World right there clearly, the end.

Ugly woman? Moi? Hardly. I can tell you of those that have pulled/married a munter but I ain't one of them gladly.

And 100% on topic your clearly shite at international football to boot. So don't try and give it large as you and your lot clearly don't feature.

Who are ya? And as your typing in English, it would be nice if you show a little respect.

Hurdy Gurdy Snurdy. Have a sauna dude and try to keep your World famous suicide numbers down with that one. Weren't you also Nazi Germany's ironmongers/bitches? That's our stereotype.

[ZOM]

Marmite.

Dear god, stay away with that satanic product.

Since we're already off-topic, I'm curious: what's a toad in the hole? It sounds... disgusting. and perverted.

[JAPJAC]

I was watching a repeat of England 3 Egypt 1 in Ebisu tonight (not seen it before) after work with the lads. It wasn't pretty and made me worried to be honest.

Argentina, Argentina, Argentina!

[neorichieb1971]

Only 7 teams have won it -

Uraguay
Italy
Argentina
Brazil
West Germany
England
France

In 18 tournaments England have only finished top 4 on 2 occasions, 1966 and 1990 (1st and 4th). England are shite at taking penalties. Englands team only needs 2 bad tackles against them to ruin their chances. In hotter climates England slow the game down to tip tapping at the half way line. The ball will be confused going backwards most of the time

England were the team that the best world cup goal was scored against (Maradona 1986). On the international stage the worst team in the world (San Marino) hold the World record for the fastest goal scored in 12 seconds or so against England. England went on to win 7-1. I remember this game well, since I turned on the TV 30 seconds after it started to see a blurry 1-0 show up on my screen.. I nearly feinted. Stuart Pearce received the ball from the person taking kick off, did the English thing by passing back to the goalie not realizing the opposition were chasing the ball.. 1-0.. awesome. England are the best, you couldn't make this shit up.

[GaijinPunch]

Okay, so the oldest English speaking and at one time most powerful kingdom on the planet comes up w/ 2 worthy things: Ale and Ice Cream.

I only need to list three things and will successfully trump UK's great achievements.
Tex Mex
Rock 'n Roll
Telling the man to fuck off (aka, the birth of America)

And we've only been around a couple of hundred years.

[neorichieb1971]

Marmite.

Dear god, stay away with that satanic product.

Since we're already off-topic, I'm curious: what's a toad in the hole? It sounds... disgusting. and perverted.

Toad in the hole is a mixture of Yorkshire pudding wrapped around a nice sausage. Yorkshire pudding isn't a pudding at all, its a kind of batter made of egg and flour. Its great in a kind of bland English cuisine kind of way.


Americans don't have that much freedom. I was more scared for my life over there than here. If I didn't have a job I was pretty much screwed for health insurance. I was punished for my wife buggering off with another man. The illusion of freedom there is quite convincing, but overall its just another slave state.

I will concede something though, only England could have created JAPJAC. Ironic though that he has an allegience to a country whose culture is about as alien to British as you can possibly get. Patriots don't live away from home JAPJAC.

Football is the best sport in the world. The best the USA came up with (imho) is volleyball and American pool.

Basketball - Might as well just have 2 baskets 6 ft apart, since the whole court is wasted going back and forth.
Ice hockey - Nice sport, but watching it is a nightmare since the puck is too small
Nascar - Headache sport.. although the movies based on it are quite spectacular sometimes.

I'm as sporting as the next guy. I just wish Americans played more on the world stage except for golf and tennis. God I hate golf. There, we invented both those games too, and are shite at them as well

[Magic Knight]

Okay, so the oldest English speaking and at one time most powerful kingdom on the planet comes up w/ 2 worthy things: Ale and Ice Cream.

As it happens, neither were invented in Britain.

[neorichieb1971]

I'm sure taxes were invented in Britain

[JAPJAC]

Okay, so the oldest English speaking and at one time most powerful kingdom on the planet comes up w/ 2 worthy things

I can think of 3 more:

The Computer.
The World Wide Web.
The langauge that you type a form of.

Totally pwned dude.

P.S. Thanks for Guns 'n Roses though.

[Elixir]

And 100% on topic your clearly shite at international football to boot. So don't try and give it large as you and your lot clearly don't feature.

Who are ya? And as your typing in English, it would be nice if you show a little respect.

Kind of like how you're showing respect to your glorious English by not knowing the difference between you're and your?

[caldwert]

Dcharlie, I really think you're giving the US too much credit. I want to bash the TV in when I watch the US National Team play. They'd rather not lose possession but just pass at the half line, than take a chance offensively, plus we have some dogs on defense like Bocanegra and Onyewu. The forward line is nothing spectacular really, but I could see us upsetting England by a fluke like you're talking about. I've read it is supposed to be "winter" in South Africa so the climate should not be as much of an issue as in past World Cup's. Neorichieb's comments on England fit a lot of what I've seen of their games. A lot of stale possession and not much offensive flair. England just doesn't seem to gel as a team, and then you have the insane media over there messing with everyone's heads. I do like Capello though as he is a no nonsense guy. I'm glad Ashley Cole is fit again so just in case whoever would replace him sucked, we wouldn't have to hear about Wayne Bridge not playing. I don't like what John Terry did, but this rules out the "well if we'd have had Ashley Cole..." shit that I was dreading.

So do you think David James will be the England #1? I like him as a goalie, but wasn't sure of any of your thoughts on him. I figure he's seen more shots than anyone this year playing for Portsmouth.

[Limbrooke]

I'm sure taxes were invented in Britain

Like ale, that too is credited to the Egyptians but out of taxes Britain invented the United States.

I was initially going to say simply that the Romans imposed the earliest taxes to then scorn the Italian squad for this World Cup to be eliminated and early. Oh well, my sentiments still stand.

I would really like to see the Dutch not choke, so many let-downs I've witnessed of many a great Dutch team. Davids, Overmars, Bergkamp, you're all missed. As for who'll win? Generally I am partial to Deustchland, but I suspect Brazil will take back the crown this time around.

Ice hockey - Nice sport, but watching it is a nightmare since the puck is too small

Canadian sport, sort of. Trouble spotting the puck eh gramps? You must've forgotten your spectacles.

[dcharlie]

I will concede something though, only England could have created JAPJAC

actually, his family name is Celtic - so he's NOT historically English*. So whilst his parents are quite possibly "English" you'd only have to go back a generation or two to end up in Bogtrotter Land or some Jock Valley.

Full disclosure : my family is Irish. :rock - then again, i'm of the opinion of content of character defines you, not where you are from.

* - anyone with any knowledge of English history will know why i star'ed this - so that's JAPJAC fucked. Mongrel nation innit?

just looking out for the reputation of the great English people here - i wouldn't want them getting all slagged off because of the action of one person whose ancient history is not with the English. I mean - if you can claim some strange ownership over the English language dating back centuries, then you're going to have to accept the etymology of your family name. A little education goes a long way!

And 100% on topic your clearly shite at international football to boot. So don't try and give it large as you and your lot clearly don't feature.

1968 since we've beaten Sweden - surprised you didn't know about this problem England have with Sweden what you being an International Football expert and all that.

[dcharlie]

Dcharlie, I really think you're giving the US too much credit. I want to bash the TV in when I watch the US National Team play. They'd rather not lose possession but just pass at the half line

this is actually a good thing! possession in that area is a good thing - especially if you are adept at maintaining it. The other team can't score without the ball and whilst it doesn't make for great viewing it does help to nullify a more proficient team.

England just doesn't seem to gel as a team, and then you have the insane media over there messing with everyone's heads.

English Press is full of shit - always has been, always will be. Agreed - we don't particularly gel as a team and the only time it really did work was during Euro 96 where we had a strong midfield backbone and a strike partnership made in heaven. We were unlucky then, but the team were - for once - good. Right now? Again - on paper - we have a good team, but as a unit we don't gel and we have an arrogance that doesn't match with that (see Lampard for 2006 : "we thought we just had to turn up and we'd win" - and we got gibbed by Portugal - again)

So do you think David James will be the England #1? I like him as a goalie, but wasn't sure of any of your thoughts on him. I figure he's seen more shots than anyone this year playing for Portsmouth.

I'd be disappointed if James wasn't at least in the frame, he has the experience - he's had his moments of panic, but he's a great shot stopper. Hart has had an amazing season at Birmingham with a string of great performances, whilst James and Green are perhaps harder to judge given their league struggles with Portsmouth and the Hammers respectively. Looking at how we have lined up then the impetus is with Green who has started more of the recent games. Yet statistically Hart is the cleaner keeper on goals conceded in the premiership.

It's a hard call - club and international football are different - and the back line has to be confident with the stopper and with that in mind i think Hart will be second back up, who will be no. 1 between Green and James is a toss up.
As an Ipswich fan and Green as an ex-Budgie - i'd prefer James!

oh, and i hope Bent gets a run out - I understand Heskey as a holding player, but frankly.... i don't rate him. And poor old Crouch has an amazing strike rate for England and is also a great target/feeder player. Will be interesting to see how we line up in the final friendlies

[JAPJAC]

Careful dude. According to some racist, childish, poison mentality in this thread, this man is not really truly English then, even though his shirt says otherwise.



Look at his surname (Agbonlahor), look at his skin colour, shock horror.

You should be ashamed of yourself. Pathetic. This attitude is a sackable offence in a non racist company such as *Morgan Stanley, Ebisu Garden Place, for example.

I have no problems with my Nationality identity. I was made in England and my Family tree has been traced back 8 generations, all hailing from mainly Hampshire, Surrey, Berkshire and Kent. I am English. The End.

The Princess of Wales was not Welsh. The Duke of Edinburgh is not Scottish, a racist would say he is Greek. In a similar way to these titles, some English surnames were given as 'prizes' to Families which were then named after other parts of the British Isles they and England conquered. A surname does not soley denote the Nationality of someone. A normal 11 year old that went to a decent school would know that. This trend happened to Families of good stock and breeding, not normally applicable to pikey peasants for example.

It's like those silly people that claim that the Queen is German. Course she is and so are all white man on this Earth are truly Germanic. Her Family tree goes back a lot further than most, that's all. The Queen IS English.

What is *cringe worthy is people that don't know me thinking that they know things about me which they don't. I guess it's because people are so interested in me for whatever reason.

As an avid viewer of Jersey Shore, it's puzzles me when I see these Americans calling themselves Italian or Irish. No, you are American.

Some Family names were derived from the name of an apparatus used to put up cu*ts to stop more cu*ts being born. They don't always work unfortunately.

[dcharlie]

You should be ashamed of yourself. Pathetic. That is a sackable offence in a non racist company such as *Morgan Stanley, Ebisu Garden Place, for example.

so let's get this straight - you consider mentioning that someones family names origin constitutes racism, and all of a sudden you are suddenly upset by this despite many examples on this board alone of having a go at peoples race/country of origin?

Lol, cry more.

This trend happened to Families of good stock and breeding, not normally applicable to pikey peasants for example.

Lol - did you just use Pikey whilst suggesting i'm racist?! I wish i went to a good school like you :sadface

You should be ashamed of yourself. Pathetic.

If i were you, I'd look at your own posts and twitter feed content first before you start judging anyone.

Anyways, if you've anything further to say - take it to PMs or email me. I'm complaining about you shitting up a thread on one hand whist *I* have yet again fallen into the trap of giving you the attention you desperately crave and helped further shit up a good thread.

Sorry everyone else, back to the football.

[dcharlie]

Not world cup, but MASSIVE anyways....

Blackpool IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE!

AMAZING!

[caldwert]

I agree with the assessment of the possession control, but I describe the US National Team in this way. They play like they're Barcelona as far as possession but they have had it so drilled into their heads to never give the ball away, that they can't recognize when to break out and try to score or take a chance. I see so much passing and just instinctively passing it right back to the passer when they could have received, turned and went at someone. That and our whole offense is based off of crosses from the wing, nothing up the middle EVER.

Interesting take on the goalkeeping situation there dcharlie. Now that I think about it Joe Hart definitely was the best out of the three that I saw this year, but his team also finished the highest. I still think they will go with David James.

Good to hear you agree with the gelling statement. On paper, England's team is really good, but then I watch them play and its painful at times. Hopefully Aaron Lennon can stay healthy, and I hate to say it but at least Beckham got hurt early so there wouldn't be any drama at the World Cup if he played like shit. Also, I am in 100% agreement on Heskey. It has always blown my mind what people have seen in him other than someone who doesn't even score but is just big. Bent might not be the best striker ever, but I liked him even when he was on Charlton. Crouch does have a crazy scoring rate for England. I think it is your midfield that troubles me the most. Players like Lampard and Barry do nothing for me.

[dcharlie]

They play like they're Barcelona as far as possession but they have had it so drilled into their heads to never give the ball away, that they can't recognize when to break out and try to score or take a chance. I see so much passing and just instinctively passing it right back to the passer when they could have received, turned and went at someone. That and our whole offense is based off of crosses from the wing, nothing up the middle EVER.

Yeah, it can be a problem - England will often play the % game but it always bites us, i prefer it when we go for a team and try and take them apart. Too many games under Erikson where we tried to sit on a 1-0 , that drove me nuts.

Again, on paper, Barca's strategy should be fairly good for USA but ... maybe not fully. Guardiola documented that the biggest challenge to playing the hustle-for-possession then retain style was that it demanded extreme fitness from every player on the pitch. USA have one of the most physically fit teams around. Technically though they obviously aren't Barca. It'll be interesting to watch - i'm hoping the USA can do us a favour by eliminating France in the best 16, so my hopes are high.

Interesting take on the goalkeeping situation there dcharlie. Now that I think about it Joe Hart definitely was the best out of the three that I saw this year, but his team also finished the highest. I still think they will go with David James.

Yeah, i think it will be James - i'd assume they'd play him against Japan so unless he has a howler there, then he should be pretty much in.

Good to hear you agree with the gelling statement. On paper, England's team is really good, but then I watch them play and its painful at times. Hopefully Aaron Lennon can stay healthy, and I hate to say it but at least Beckham got hurt early so there wouldn't be any drama at the World Cup if he played like shit. Also, I am in 100% agreement on Heskey. It has always blown my mind what people have seen in him other than someone who doesn't even score but is just big. Bent might not be the best striker ever, but I liked him even when he was on Charlton. Crouch does have a crazy scoring rate for England. I think it is your midfield that troubles me the most. Players like Lampard and Barry do nothing for me.

The midfield is a weird one - it's all about fitting it all together and whilst i think Lampard is a good player, and whilst i like Barry's work ethic i agree that it's all much of a muchness. I dream of us one day getting a player like a modern day Le Tiss (or Beckham i guess) - a wild card player who might not be amazing every game, but has the ability to turn a match on their own.

[Khan]

So much whining in this thread, go play some shmups for crying out loud!

[CIT]

It's like those silly people that claim that the Queen is German. ... The Queen IS English.

...ask your George Washington via a weegie board, he was English too!

WORD!


South West Tokyo, reprazent!

[BulletMagnet]

Watch the tone in here - hyping up one's team is one thing, but crossing the line into douchebag jingoism will get you reported to the admins.

[dcharlie]

Argentina - Canada
Australia - New Zealand
Japan - Korea Republic
South Africa - Bulgaria
England - Mexico
USA - Czech Republic

interesting few friendlies today and tomorrow - Tevez talking about staking his claim in the Argentina game. Given he's been out in the wilderness under Maradona, i hope he gets a spot in SA.

Australia and NZ will be a good guage of just where NZ are. Given these were the only remotely tight games in what was the old qualifying group, will be good to see just how prepared NZ are.

Japan and South Korea is always a grudge match - not sure i'd have picked this game for either team so close to the World Cup. Possible there'll be a few tasty challenges flying in.

South Africa game will be good to see how much home advantage will help them and whether the group has been kind enough to them to let the hosts progress

England - Mexico. Want to see who gets a run out and just how we are playing. Assuming we'll try a couple of formations over the next few games.

USA - Czech - whilst the czechs have fallen off in recent years, this should still be a hard test for the USA/

[dcharlie]

Predictions gents?

Argentina 4 - 1 Canada
Australia 2 - 1 New Zealand
Japan 1 - 1 Korea Republic
South Africa 2- 1 Bulgaria
England 2 - 2 Mexico
USA 2 - 1 Czech Republic

[dcharlie]

Results :
Australia 2 - 1 New Zealand
Japan 0 - 2 Korea Republic

The Japan v Korea game was dire stuff. A japanese friend i play futsal with assured me a few weeks ago that Japan would not score a single goal this world cup and would have a string of heavy defeats - i thought he was being overly down on the team, especially as they'd had decent performances in Europe last year (they may have lost heavily to the Dutch in the end, but they were in the game for a good 70 minutes and caused the Dutch backline a host of problems) but on this showing i simply can't see who will score for them and ultimately the difference between two poor teams was the quality of Park Ji-Sung who led by example and went through a static Japanese defense like they weren't there for the first goal in the 6th minute. Nakamura cut a tired spent figure , though replacement Morimoto got his couple of shots on target and with purpose - something which Okubo was having a bit of difficulty with. But yes, we'll be watching the Japan group in the DCharlie household and i'm expecting things to get ugly - the only realistic chance of anything is against Denmark and by that point i expect them to be already eliminated on the back of the Dutch/Cameroon games.

S Korea on the other hand have an easier group. Once 1-0 up, they rarely looked in danger and although 2-0 was slightly flattering, they were organised and worth the win and i don't think results against Greece and Nigeria are out of the question.

[JAPJAC]

England vs. Japan.
21:00-23:20 (Japan).
NHK Channel 1.

[neorichieb1971]

Well England are playing as expected. Zero flair, minimal chances, playing safe, no attack formation, no desire to win. Rooney, the man that is expected to win us the cup has officially given the ball away about 5 times in the last 10 minutes.

Score


Japan 1 - 0 England.

[JAPJAC]

Halftime Score


Japan 1 - 0 England Bs.

Fixed.

[dcharlie]

Well England are playing as expected.

well, not really - i think no one expected them to play quite this bad, even people who don't rate them! They look awful. We can't even do the "simple" things right - passing to feet at speed seems to be lost on us and the back line have all made mistakes. Johnson has been done several times, Rio had his usual trade mark slip up, Huddlestone and the rest of the defense was other wise occupied for the goal.

Japan look organised and are doing the simple things well. We just don't know how to break them down and we are allowing them to get 7-8 people back for every attack. Only Rooney is showing any quality, but you can't have one man carry a team. Walcot is frustrating to watch, he's been abject down the flank, with his final ball lacking.

I expect the half time talk from Capello to be "heated" and i think the team will respond. Whilst this is just a friendly the fact we are struggling so badly against Japan is worrying - I expect Japan to drop off the pace in the second half though - it's a game of two halves Brian and all that.

[Elixir]

Results :
Australia 2 - 1 New Zealand

NZ can't catch a break. In anything.