Espgaluda II

[Special World]

This is good news that makes me wanna punch myself in the head. Bought a J360 like 2 weeks ago, THEN Deathsmiles was announced, and now this.

As long as Ketsui is JP only I'll be fine with keeping my J360, but if not then DDP BLEX can go suck a dick.

[adversity1]

I don't think you're wrong necessarily, but it seems something in the production schedule required them to have the LE discs ready first. The most reasonable explanation is that it takes longer to pack the LEs and they needed more lead time to get all the planned stock boxed and ready at the factory so that it would make it out by release date.

Might have been since they were doing a faceplate? Given the scarcity of faceplates out there, I imagine that MS has some sort of certification process for them?

[ASK]

Everyone in this thread recently talking about region-ness of this title is fucking hilarious.

[StarCreator]

I don't think you're wrong necessarily, but it seems something in the production schedule required them to have the LE discs ready first. The most reasonable explanation is that it takes longer to pack the LEs and they needed more lead time to get all the planned stock boxed and ready at the factory so that it would make it out by release date.

Might have been since they were doing a faceplate? Given the scarcity of faceplates out there, I imagine that MS has some sort of certification process for them?

Exactly what I was thinking, pretty much. But certification process or not, the simple act of packing a faceplate into a box along with a game keepcase is a lot more time consuming (even more so if it's not machineable) than just putting a disc in a hub.

[MachineAres 1CC]

I don't think you're wrong necessarily, but it seems something in the production schedule required them to have the LE discs ready first. The most reasonable explanation is that it takes longer to pack the LEs and they needed more lead time to get all the planned stock boxed and ready at the factory so that it would make it out by release date.

Might have been since they were doing a faceplate? Given the scarcity of faceplates out there, I imagine that MS has some sort of certification process for them?

Exactly what I was thinking, pretty much. But certification process or not, the simple act of packing a faceplate into a box along with a game keepcase is a lot more time consuming (even more so if it's not machineable) than just putting a disc in a hub.

Often, LE versions of games have different disc art on the actual disc than a standard edition. And the cover art is different as well, so it would only make logical sense to make your limited run of LE copies first. Its not "just throwing in a faceplate."

[StarCreator]

Often, LE versions of games have different disc art on the actual disc than a standard edition. And the cover art is different as well, so it would only make logical sense to make your limited run of LE copies first. Its not "just throwing in a faceplate."

I've already mentioned the different disc art. But different artwork on the case and disc don't incur any additional production time cost over the standard edition. That can't be the sole reason for the LE production needing more lead time.

[Acid King]

I've already mentioned the different disc art. But different artwork on the case and disc don't incur any additional production time cost over the standard edition. That can't be the sole reason for the LE production needing more lead time.

Maybe they didn't want to fuck it up like the last few LE's so they starting producing them early. I think that's the most logical explanation for why they'd put that into production early.

[StarCreator]

Maybe they didn't want to fuck it up like the last few LE's so they starting producing them early. I think that's the most logical explanation for why they'd put that into production early.

What was fucked up about the last few LEs? The only messup I know of was Play-Asia mixing first and second pressings with blatant disregard, and that's hardly something to fault Cave over.

[originalz]

This is good news that makes me wanna punch myself in the head. Bought a J360 like 2 weeks ago, THEN Deathsmiles was announced, and now this.

As long as Ketsui is JP only I'll be fine with keeping my J360, but if not then DDP BLEX can go suck a dick.

There's really no shame in having a J360 unit though, now you have 100% chance of a game working on your unit, instead of having to follow this region-free circus and be worried about it. As for localizations, you'll get to play the game substantially earlier than you would by waiting for a possible western release.

[EOJ]

MMP port to XBLA. It mysteriously "disappeared" about a day or two after they posted it, although the rest of the post (an interview w/ Asada) stayed up.

Forgot about that one! But yeah, that's a pretty major erroneous report from Kotaku involving a Cave game. They also quoted Asada as saying it!

[Acid King]

What was fucked up about the last few LEs? The only messup I know of was Play-Asia mixing first and second pressings with blatant disregard, and that's hardly something to fault Cave over.

I remember the Deathsmiles LE being quite the debacle with sellers not getting enough to cover their orders. I can't remember how Futari's went but I would assume that the problems with the Deathsmiles LE would be the reason why they would start producing them early to make sure they had enough to cover themselves.

[NR777]

MMP port to XBLA. It mysteriously "disappeared" about a day or two after they posted it, although the rest of the post (an interview w/ Asada) stayed up.

Forgot about that one! But yeah, that's a pretty major erroneous report from Kotaku involving a Cave game. They also quoted Asada as saying it!

Ah...now I remember that one. What a goof.

[Special World]

This is good news that makes me wanna punch myself in the head. Bought a J360 like 2 weeks ago, THEN Deathsmiles was announced, and now this.

As long as Ketsui is JP only I'll be fine with keeping my J360, but if not then DDP BLEX can go suck a dick.

There's really no shame in having a J360 unit though, now you have 100% chance of a game working on your unit, instead of having to follow this region-free circus and be worried about it. As for localizations, you'll get to play the game substantially earlier than you would by waiting for a possible western release.

Right, but I spent like $300 on it. Plus I bought DS RIGHT before it was announced for release here, for double its release price, and without Black Label. It's just kinda shitty is all. I'm not crying or anything, but I'm doing a large :\ face.

Oh well. Here's hoping ESPG2 arrives in my mailbox friday so I dont have to wait over the weekend for campus mail to be back in service.

[RSmith]

As much as I would LOVE for galudaII to be region free I think I'm going to wait until its released just to be on the safe side...or maybe just get a jxbox360 and never have to worry region coding.

[GaijinPunch]

I remember the Deathsmiles LE being quite the debacle with sellers not getting enough to cover their orders.

Very similar. Amazon, for one, blows out of the LE's in an hour...but heaps of other places have them. Release day comes, and YJ is flooded with them.

[Battlesmurf]

As long as Ketsui is JP only I'll be fine with keeping my J360, but if not then DDP BLEX can go suck a dick.

Sidetrack/OT- have you looked into Shooting Love? Wonderful game- really needs more attention

[originalz]

Anyway, my theory of this whole LE/SE debacle is that the LEs have been spoken for more or less, respectable amount of preorders and interest. The SE may have a lower amount of preorders than past titles, and they're worried about sales. Maybe Mushi's export sales were significant enough so that they feel that they need to open it up in order to make sales expectations? Would kind of make sense why they're deciding to do this at the last minute, but who knows...

[EOJ]

Anyway, my theory of this whole LE/SE debacle is that the LEs have been spoken for more or less, respectable amount of preorders and interest. The SE may have a lower amount of preorders than past titles, and they're worried about sales. Maybe Mushi's export sales were significant enough so that they feel that they need to open it up in order to make sales expectations?

That sounds like a plausible scenario.

[Phellan Wolf]

We'll know it soon. I just hope that from now on, future Cave release take the region free formula, because now this is the 2nd time that Cave has decided, if true and at the last minute, making region free a game. Now I amjustwondering if the bargain edition of Death Smiles that is supposed to be launched soon is going to be region free as well, and if it is so, they would enter in some conflict interest with Aksys.

[Shelcoof]

Wonders if content for the LE and SE disc are different besides the region difference?

Instead of having extra bonuses they may include extra content? I'm just hoping anyways lol

[Elixir]

Wonders if content for the LE and SE disc are different besides the region difference?

Instead of having extra bonuses they may include extra content? I'm just hoping anyways lol

It wouldn't be fair of them to do that, for either party. People with the faceplate are just going to sell it on Yahoo Japan for 15,000 yen a day later anyway.

[Special World]

As long as Ketsui is JP only I'll be fine with keeping my J360, but if not then DDP BLEX can go suck a dick.

Sidetrack/OT- have you looked into Shooting Love? Wonderful game- really needs more attention

I've looked into it, looks pretty mediocre to me unfortunately :\

[Danbo]

Everyone in this thread recently talking about region-ness of this title is fucking hilarious.

people are getting excited because they might be able to actually buy and play new cave games without entirely breaking the bank on an import console. that's not funny though it's nice

[ASK]

Everyone in this thread recently talking about region-ness of this title is fucking hilarious.

people are getting excited because they might be able to actually buy and play new cave games without entirely breaking the bank on an import console. that's not funny though it's nice

Just amused by posters who think they have more insight into what Cave is going to do than Kotaku.

[Elixir]

Kotaku's reputation is still not without reason.

[Udderdude]

Everyone in this thread recently talking about region-ness of this title is fucking hilarious.

people are getting excited because they might be able to actually buy and play new cave games without entirely breaking the bank on an import console. that's not funny though it's nice

Just amused by posters who think they have more insight into what Cave is going to do than Kotaku.

Hate to break it to you, but Kotaku's reputation is mud around here.

[robthebanks]

Hate to break it to you, but Kotaku's reputation is mud around here.

I wish there was an alternative that had similar coverage. I usually just lurk GAF for news.

[Square King]

Cave's recent graphical style/art direction has been argued into the ground, but what do you guys think of the art in Esp II? I haven't really looked into it and several other Cave titles (MMP, Ibara, et al) because I figured I wouldn't be able to try them out, so I kinda kept them in the back of my mind. Esp II looks super detailed and the animation is top notch from what I can tell, but I miss the grittier style in Esp.ra.de and Guwange. I'm all for color and I think Mushi's pallette fits the game perfectly, but ... dunno about Esp II. I haven't seen it in person so I can't really judge anyway.

I'm talking outta my ass here. Just trying to avoid work today.

[Udderdude]

It's like Espgaluda, only better and more colorful. I like it. Then again, I like all of Cave's art styles. It's always top notch. (Maybe with the exception of DFK, a little too messy)

[Zero Gunner]

Just e-mailed NCS to inquire if they'd had legit confirmation and this is what they said......

Hi Steven, the Kotaku article is accurate. We asked one of our main distributors to corroborate the information and they confirmed the region-free status of the regular edition of ESPGaluda II.

There was some confusion at first because Cave initially told them that it would be region-locked but they were referring to the Limited Edition. They later made the distinction between the two versions of the game.

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