Espgaluda II

[Shelcoof]

Good news its region free YAAHH

Bad news those who ordered just the LE version doesn't get region free... AWWW

[Phellan Wolf]

The sad part is that this made makes my decision to buy a US or JP 360 that much harder :/.

I'm in the same boat.

I literally logged on this morning to find the SHMUPS for XBOX360 thread to try and convince myself to buy a JP console and then saw the news in this thread.

Ketsui.

Best reason to have a japanese 360

[cul]

Good news its region free YAAHH

Bad news those who ordered just the LE version doesn't get region free... AWWW

Espagluda2 was never announced to be region free, nearly everyone was pretty sure that it would be locked. People without J360 who pre ordered it are just stupid. It's like pre-ordering Metal Gear 4 if you never owned a PS3 in the first place.

This is good news. Even if I don't plan to buy it.

[2dvertical]

Good news its region free YAAHH

Bad news those who ordered just the LE version doesn't get region free... AWWW

Espagluda2 was never announced to be region free, nearly everyone was pretty sure that it would be locked. People without J360 who pre ordered it are just stupid. It's like pre-ordering Metal Gear 4 if you never owned a PS3 in the first place.

This is good news. Even if I don't plan to buy it.

People just wanna know what the fuck to expect! Cave has been doing this back and forth "based on sales" of what will be region free or not. region free, not region free, localized, back to region locked, nevermind region free.......I mean come on!

I went through this descision on getting a jp360 when rumors of a localized deathsmiles came about. I just bought a jp360 and havent looked back. Its not worth waiting for localization or hoping they decide to make their next title region free. Then again i had a ps3, I feel for those who have already bought a us/eu 360.

[dan76]

To let you all know - http://www.videogameimports.com/ has the normal edition listed as region free - LE region locked... If this IS true lets hope it sets the pattern for future releases.

[Ganelon]

Espagluda2 was never announced to be region free, nearly everyone was pretty sure that it would be locked. People without J360 who pre ordered it are just stupid. It's like pre-ordering Metal Gear 4 if you never owned a PS3 in the first place.

Well, I don't think it'd be pointless if you think the item will be hard to find later on. The problem is that the LE costs like half a 360 anyway so it doesn't make sense to splurge on a game if you don't own the console. Plus, the new Jasper models have no known major issues so holding out for more reliable systems is no longer an excuse either. So yeah, this shouldn't affect sensible LE buyers at all but it's good news for less diehard fans. Of course, that means a localization will be highly unlikely.

[genjuro]

The sad part is that this made makes my decision to buy a US or JP 360 that much harder :/.

I'm in the same boat.

I literally logged on this morning to find the SHMUPS for XBOX360 thread to try and convince myself to buy a JP console and then saw the news in this thread.

Ketsui.

Yeah.

Imagine if CAVE gets 5pb to release it region-free as well....or is it totally ruled out at this point?

Can we believe anything at this point? Will there be LE and SE of Ketsui?

I know it's a different situation because there's another developer involved here. Just sayin...

[Zero Gunner]

Espagluda2 was never announced to be region free, nearly everyone was pretty sure that it would be locked. People without J360 who pre ordered it are just stupid. It's like pre-ordering Metal Gear 4 if you never owned a PS3 in the first place.

Well, I don't think it'd be pointless if you think the item will be hard to find later on. The problem is that the LE costs like half a 360 anyway so it doesn't make sense to splurge on a game if you don't own the console. Plus, the new Jasper models have no known major issues so holding out for more reliable systems is no longer an excuse either. So yeah, this shouldn't affect sensible LE buyers at all but it's good news for less diehard fans. Of course, that means a localization will be highly unlikely.

On one hand you're right in that it shouldn't affect LE buyers. But on the other it does in that given the choice of having to play solely on a Japanese 360 or picking up the version that plays on anything the LE is somewhat less appealing. I wonder if the LE being region restricted is due to Aksys possibly localizing the game. Given what they've done with the Aragast & BlazBlue LEs (being better than their Japanese counter parts) and that they have similar intentions for Death Smiles then if they've licensed ESP they'll undoubtedly be planning an awesome LE version. So then Cave can essentially sell us the game twice. We buy the region free standard edition directly from Japan then we buy the domestic LE version....

[No one spazz....I'm not really accusing Cave of nefariousness, I'm just having fun wondering out loud...]

[Danbo]

To let you all know - http://www.videogameimports.com/ has the normal edition listed as region free - LE region locked... If this IS true lets hope it sets the pattern for future releases.

How reputable is this site? Can anyone give any recommendations? Thinking about putting a pre-order in if it's still go for region-free in a few days...

[Shelcoof]

Good news its region free YAAHH

Bad news those who ordered just the LE version doesn't get region free... AWWW

Espagluda2 was never announced to be region free, nearly everyone was pretty sure that it would be locked. People without J360 who pre ordered it are just stupid. It's like pre-ordering Metal Gear 4 if you never owned a PS3 in the first place.

This is good news. Even if I don't plan to buy it.

Quit a bold statement to say those who pre-ordered without owning a J360 first is stupid. Your assumption that nearly everyone knew it was going to be region locked is just as stupid as the statement you made about those who pre-ordered the game.

Never occurred to you that people may want to play it on their NTSC-U Xbox 360 and not their JP one?

[Kiken]

To let you all know - http://www.videogameimports.com/ has the normal edition listed as region free - LE region locked... If this IS true lets hope it sets the pattern for future releases.

How reputable is this site? Can anyone give any recommendations? Thinking about putting a pre-order in if it's still go for region-free in a few days...

VGI are very trustworthy... just kinda expensive. Lee's a good guy. I think in this case though, he's just parroting what was said on Kotaku (NCSX did the same thing earlier today).

[Avatar Ignis]

This is fantastic news!

I didn't care for the faceplate, but i did care for the OST cd that came with it. I get my cake and eat it too

[Gwyrgyn Blood]

Excellent. I believe Kotaku, they've printed bad rumours before, but not to my knowledge printed outright fake quotes.

They've flat out lied in the past on a few occasions actually. Not that that means much, but I would hardly use them as a definitive source on anything without another source to back it up.

[sjoecool1991]

I need to see some examples of Kotaku flat out lied, because I cannot seem to find those examples myself.

C'mon, 99% of the time when they post a rumor, there is a giant rumor tag on it, but that does not necessarily mean that they think its 100% true.

[EOJ]

I need to see some examples of Kotaku flat out lied, because I cannot seem to find those examples myself.

2.5D KOF 11.

[Gwyrgyn Blood]

I need to see some examples of Kotaku flat out lied, because I cannot seem to find those examples myself.

C'mon, 99% of the time when they post a rumor, there is a giant rumor tag on it, but that does not necessarily mean that they think its 100% true.

Another recent example is when Arcsys announced a new GG game in the works, Kotaku posted an article that said to the effect of 'Arcsys working on a brand new Guilty Gear 2D Fighter'. None of the original quotes said anything about it being 2D or a Fighter and the article basically ignored all the previous history as to why there aren't any more 2D GG games.

They also have deleted some articles in the past for being flat out wrong. I only remember this because one of them was related to BB. Course I have no evidence of that seeing as it was deleted.

[Phellan Wolf]

If kotaku is wrong about this one, they'r going to burn in hell, really. I don't see why this time around they wiil be wrong, since the news was posted it has spread really fast and I am sure that it has made to preorder the SE of the game for a lot of people (I don't know if you have noticed but the price for the SE in Play Asia has risen up). That being said, I hope they're right, because every time I want to play a shooting game, I have to hook up my jap 360, and it is a pain since I don't have enough room.


PD:Sorry for my bad grammar but is the best I can do. I hope you understand it.

[Van_Artic]

oh. my. god.

ordering now

i love you cave, i fucking love you

[NR777]

As sketchy as it is that this wasn't announced in the recent Siliconera article, I highly doubt Kotaku would simply make a story up off the top of their heads and print a fake quote from Asada. Like it or not, Kotaku has a very high profile, so I don't think you'll see them out and out fabricating quotes from niche developers in an attempt to generate traffic.

[AcidBath86]

Good news, but in my games collecting lust, I'm getting the LE. I didn't plan on getting the regular edition. Now that it has the bonus of working in any of my 360, I will pick one up too. So, it's a good news that is making spend more money on the game.

I don't complain and I know I'm part of very specific market that will end up buying both because of that.

Pretty much my thoughts exactly. I got the JP 360 near the start of the year since I figured I'd be able to play the shmups that were region locked, whether they were released before or any that will eventually be released. I have no regrets and if the news is true, I'll eventually get the SE later. That and of course the release day will be a great day for shmup fans.

[Danbo]

To let you all know - http://www.videogameimports.com/ has the normal edition listed as region free - LE region locked... If this IS true lets hope it sets the pattern for future releases.

How reputable is this site? Can anyone give any recommendations? Thinking about putting a pre-order in if it's still go for region-free in a few days...

VGI are very trustworthy... just kinda expensive. Lee's a good guy. I think in this case though, he's just parroting what was said on Kotaku (NCSX did the same thing earlier today).

Yeah it would be nice to actually get speedy shipping and not worry about customs ripping the package open and sneaking a peek at my sick perverted bug princess game then charging me £20 for the privilege

[Dandy J]

hmm...looks like some tranny cartoon with minors. better register this guy into the sex offender database just to be sure

[Leroy]

The price for 360 games in the US is usually 60 dollars. As opposed to 70 + shipping. It's certainly more expensive to import but not double.

Just got my standard edition from NCSX. Here's the math. Damn NY sales tax... I think Mushi came out to cheaper on Play-Asia but it also took FOREVER to ship to me. I figured NCSX is a good bet since in live in NY.

Subtotal: $74.90
Shipping & Handling: $7.57
Tax: $6.08
Order Total: $88.55
Surcharge: $2.66

Final Total: $91.21

Eh, you got it?

Is there any way you can confirm the burning question on everyone's mind?!

[MachineAres 1CC]

I need to see some examples of Kotaku flat out lied, because I cannot seem to find those examples myself.

C'mon, 99% of the time when they post a rumor, there is a giant rumor tag on it, but that does not necessarily mean that they think its 100% true.

Another recent example is when Arcsys announced a new GG game in the works, Kotaku posted an article that said to the effect of 'Arcsys working on a brand new Guilty Gear 2D Fighter'. None of the original quotes said anything about it being 2D or a Fighter and the article basically ignored all the previous history as to why there aren't any more 2D GG games.

They also have deleted some articles in the past for being flat out wrong. I only remember this because one of them was related to BB. Course I have no evidence of that seeing as it was deleted.

I can definitely see this happening. They're a website who is just there to get people to read it, and when they mention stuff that people want to hear, it'll get people's attention, even if it turns out untrue later, I don't think it would stop anyone from reading future articles that contain something they wanted to hear.

[robthebanks]

Out of curiosity, who is the source on this region-free news? I went back a couple pages but I don't see any links.

I found out here: http://kotaku.com/5471899/if-you-want-t ... -this-post

[GaijinPunch]

I need to see some examples of Kotaku flat out lied, because I cannot seem to find those examples myself.

2.5D KOF 11.

MMP port to XBLA. It mysteriously "disappeared" about a day or two after they posted it, although the rest of the post (an interview w/ Asada) stayed up.

[Malc74]

Out of curiosity, who is the source on this region-free news? I went back a couple pages but I don't see any links.

I found out here: http://kotaku.com/5471899/if-you-want-t ... -this-post

I think what everyone wants to know is where Kotaku got the quote from - did Ashcraft bump into Asada in the pub or something? Kotaku will often link to the source of the news they print - it's odd that on this occasion they haven't bothered.

[originalz]

Kotaku is so full of shit that I don't understand why people read them. Most of their content is just stolen from other sites, and their "original" content is often full of misinformation. I remember a couple of years ago they swore up and down that they had a source saying that Kingdom Hearts 3 would debut at E3 for the PS3, never mentioned it again!

Ashcraft is also a worthless reporter, most of his articles about "crazy niche Japanese games" are often completely inaccurate or misunderstood, probably because he never actually plays the games. I don't know why he loves reporting on shooters so much, it's not like he spends any time trying to learn how to play them properly. Worse is when it spreads to other sites, I've seen quite a few places reporting on the whole DDPBLX port saying how messed up it is and it's a disgrace to the game, yet it's certain that they've never touched the game or could probably even notice the bugs in it. Oddly enough, no one ever reports on the bugs in the other shooting games!

Shit, he once reported on something that I was a translator for, the article was full of incorrect information which could have been fixed with 5 minutes of research. I actually emailed him giving him some corrections, soon as he found out I was connected to the project, he asked me a bunch of interview questions. I told him that I wasn't interested in that, but I would appreciate it if he would amend the original article. Never got a reply again, I don't even remember if he changed the article or not.. The don't care about reporting facts, only shit that gets them more hits.

It would be a good thing if the game was region-free, but I would recommend waiting until the game actually releases before ordering it, just to make sure. Well, maybe someone will clarify on the official blog.

[StarCreator]

Maybe I am mistaken because I don't know how the replication of DVD's is handled but I have always thought that you send the master and then the replication of the disc is done. After that some DVD's have a LE box and the others SE box.
I guess I was wrong all along

I don't think you're wrong necessarily, but it seems something in the production schedule required them to have the LE discs ready first. The most reasonable explanation is that it takes longer to pack the LEs and they needed more lead time to get all the planned stock boxed and ready at the factory so that it would make it out by release date.

We also know they don't just print all the discs at once, since previous Cave LE discs have different artwork on the disc itself.

[vercimber]

The price for 360 games in the US is usually 60 dollars. As opposed to 70 + shipping. It's certainly more expensive to import but not double.

Just got my standard edition from NCSX. Here's the math. Damn NY sales tax... I think Mushi came out to cheaper on Play-Asia but it also took FOREVER to ship to me. I figured NCSX is a good bet since in live in NY.

Subtotal: $74.90
Shipping & Handling: $7.57
Tax: $6.08
Order Total: $88.55
Surcharge: $2.66

Final Total: $91.21

Eh, you got it?

Is there any way you can confirm the burning question on everyone's mind?!

I might be mistaken, but I think he means that he ordered it. I wouldn't suspect he's received the tangible copy yet.